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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:06:00 -
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I'm about to make my choice so I cannot hold our much longer. I really need to know which one is better (even though EVE-Online is purposely balancing every type of ship its still not perfect).
I'm gonna PVP with a group, I know the Assault Frigate has more firepower and resistance but doesn't an Interceptor match its risistance with speed and it's firepower with range.
I know that the Interceptor is a key tackler for a group but even with its limited speed you can strap a MWD, Scrambler and Webifier on an Assault Frigate and it can do the job just as easily.
The only real advantage i see for an Interceptor is speed and being able to take down bigger ships
Its a hard decision and I need suggestions.
I'm not saying we instate capitol punishment on the stupid people of the present. We should just not bother making safety labels and let the problem fix itself.
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fmercury
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:08:00 -
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Interceptor - you're more useful, and less likley to die.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:11:00 -
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Best quote I ever heard on this question:
Interceptor: when you go looking for trouble.
Assault Frig: when trouble comes looking for you.
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:11:00 -
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Ya I was leaning towars Interceptors.
I still dont think your less likely to die in a group with 2 BCs, a HAC and a Stealth Bomber when your in a very small but strong frigate that almost matches a Cruiser in firepower and resistance.
I'm not saying we instate capitol punishment on the stupid people of the present. We should just not bother making safety labels and let the problem fix itself.
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:12:00 -
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Haha, ya, I heard that one somewhere.
I really need to put that in my Signature.
I'm not saying we instate capitol punishment on the stupid people of the present. We should just not bother making safety labels and let the problem fix itself.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:16:00 -
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My experiences in an assault frig: you're versatile and able to take down targets bigger than you, but you're slow as hell and if you're caught and can't tank the dps, you die.
My experiences in an interceptor: high dps but sheer speed and extremely low sig radius make it hard to hit you. Tackling for a group you can except to lose ships sometimes. Solo, you have to screw up to die.
The interceptor has higher survivability, but also has less straight up in-your-face killing ability.
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:19:00 -
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Ahh this is killing me, there is never any pro without a con. At this rate ill never be able to choose.
I think I should go with my gut and take the Interceptor.
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
fmercury
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Sergis
Ahh this is killing me, there is never any pro without a con. At this rate ill never be able to choose.
I think I should go with my gut and take the Interceptor.
Good thing about interceptors; you can run away from anything you can't kill 
AFs, not so much. The range of targets you can take solo isn't that much different (stupid cruiser pilots, ceptors, frigs) but you're vastly slower.
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Sidraket
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:26:00 -
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How about both? Theres realy not that much of a difference in what you need to train, other than the actual ship skills themselves, which is quite small compared to all the fitting/weapon skills. The requirements for assault frigates are good and you should get them anyway.
Start with an inty however. Intys are useful, everyone should train for intys, at the very least you can get from point A to point B quickly in them.
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:43:00 -
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Hahaha, ya it is better than having to take a shuttle when your short on time. I feel Interceptors have a more important job than Assault Frigates so i'm gonna be them first but I have considered doing both although if i focus on one ill train specifically for it. You're right though it is similar.
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:44:00 -
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I'm tilting towars Intys on the balance here so I still challenge someone to change my mind.
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
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Matrices Sunbound
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:01:00 -
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I went the AF route, and it definitely was not worth it for solo hunting. You have 10-20% more damage and better resists, but it's not enough to take out significantly bigger targets. An unprepared solo cruiser pilot or recon HAC is the most you can take out. Good luck finding either in such a situation in 0.0. Meanwhile, your survivability is poor compared to the interceptor. Most important, you pay about 3 times more for the AF.
The only situation in which the AF is conceivably better is if you're taking a squad of them around for hunting. That's a mobile powerhouse because it can't be smartbombed or wiped out as quickly if the enemy team refits for close range.
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Oblivion's Gate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:06:00 -
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I've actually changed from a Claw to a Jaguar for solo PvP, not quite as fast, but still a very nasty ship.
Both classes are excellent ships, a pair of AF's can be very nasty, far worse than 2 ceptors.
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: fmercury
Interceptor - you're more useful, and less likley to die.
And you get a real 4th bonus, and aren't made obsolete by a cruiser.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour  - Immy |
Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: fmercury
Interceptor - you're more useful, and less likley to die.
And you get a real 4th bonus, and aren't made obsolete by a cruiser.
Seeing a 'sader at a jumpgate makes my retri cry. Then we go and beat up sansha's and it feels better.
Save the AFs! We want a real 4th bonus!
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Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:17:00 -
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You haven't provided a couple important pieces of information.
1) What race have you trained Frig 5 in?
2) What focus do you have, gunnery, missles, drones?
3) Do you prefer long or short range?
Those are important.
Generally though, I'd say start with Inties. I doubt it'd steer you wrong.
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Eudoxus
Ars Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.09.05 05:17:00 -
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In 0.0, from my experience running around hunting, I think interceptors outnumber assault frigs by about 5 to 1 if not 10 to 1. We can debate the ratio but the numbers speak volumes about what the general population thinks is the better ship. Whether it suits your needs/playstyle is harder to say but interceptors seem to suit for most people.
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Hamatitio
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 06:56:00 -
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skills are similar, interceptors are more useful though :)
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:08:00 -
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I'm Caldari, working with group for PvP, we already have an AF although they are good in twos.
Im debating over Crow or Harpy /w missiles for long range combat.
(I also want to know if I should get a warp dissrupter or scrambler even though im long range)
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:25:00 -
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I think i'm gonna choose Crow and here is my setup:
High:
3X Rocket Launcher II
1X Small "Knave" I Energy Drainer
Mid:
1X 1MN MWD
1X Warp Scrambler II
1X X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Low:
1X 200mm Armor Plate
2X Capacitor Power Relays
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:49:00 -
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Another Question is should I use Long Ranged Rockets or Damage Rockets?
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Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
KraniX
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sergis
Interceptor: When your looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you.quote]
It's you're not your btw. Not meaning to be picky, just thought you'd like to know. :D
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Rigsta
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sergis
I think i'm gonna choose Crow and here is my setup:
High:
3X Rocket Launcher II
1X Small "Knave" I Energy Drainer
Mid:
1X 1MN MWD
1X Warp Scrambler II
1X X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Low:
1X 200mm Armor Plate
2X Capacitor Power Relays
That seems a popular choice, it should serve you well.
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I felt the disturbance... it was like a million voices suddenly stopped whining for a second. Unfortunantly it then continued.
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Kruel
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:00:00 -
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Ok here's a question to those who have flown both....
What would you rather fly: Ishkur or Taranis? I'm training for both either way but I'm just curious.
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Sergis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sergis on 05/09/2006 21:16:17
I'm really curious to know if I should go for:
T2 long-range rockets and a warp disrupter.
or
T2 damage rockets and a warp scrambler.
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Interceptor: When you go looking for trouble.
Assault Ship: When trouble comes looking for you. |
Benglada
Finite Auxiliary
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sergis
Edited by: Sergis on 05/09/2006 21:16:17
I'm really curious to know if I should go for:
T2 long-range rockets and a warp disrupter.
or
T2 damage rockets and a warp scrambler.
for solo a warp scrambler and NORMAl t1 rockets, t2 damage rockets mess your cap, and long range t2 rockets mess your speed, just use t1 rockets and get good missile flight skills.
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Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
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Kyuzo
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:57:00 -
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It really depends... both have there advantages... depending on the Assualt ship u pick... generally speaking... i think AFs are more powerful on average...
of course... this doesnt account for a 1v1 match up of Inty vs AF... but when you look at all the situations both AFs and Intys might get into... i think AFs are the more powerful choice... they will be able to do more and will be able to fight and win ...the average AF can beat down more ships 1v1 (generally speaking of course)...
but Intys have the distinct advantage of being much better at picking its fights...
id say both are very useful.. and both have there niche.... but at the end of the day... interceptors are the cheapest option by far...
Comparing the Ishkur and the tanaris is a diffuclt one ... the Ishkur requires alot more skill training then the tanaris to reach its maximum potential... but with near max drone skills.... i think the ishkur is one of the best Assualt frigates on the market.... an ishkur with the right skills behind it.... is a hands down winner against the tanaris...
but in saying that... there still will be things that a tanaris can do.. that an ishkur cannot...
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Oblivion's Gate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:13:00 -
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What I know from experience.
My Jaguar can make a Taranis and Claw duo cry.
Solo long range AF's die really easy.
Crows are an easy kill if you know what you are doing, most Crow pilots are lazy.
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:19:00 -
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Go Jaguar and get the best of both worlds, very tough, good damage and pretty damn fast.
CEO - Art of War
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.09.06 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kyuzo
Comparing the Ishkur and the tanaris is a diffuclt one ... the Ishkur requires alot more skill training then the tanaris to reach its maximum potential... but with near max drone skills.... i think the ishkur is one of the best Assualt frigates on the market.... an ishkur with the right skills behind it.... is a hands down winner against the tanaris...
I can take out alot of things with my ishkur (largest is a raven...but he was shooting torps at my light drones so um yea...) i have only about 900k sp in drones....have T2 lights.
I can only see it gettign more mean with more drone skills  particuarly with the drone navigation skills....i belive with lvl 4 should be sefficient to have your T2 lights stay within range of thoose intys
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