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Lisa Payne
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:05:00 -
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Wouldn't it be far more effective to brag about the amazing fleet combat and alliance wars in Eve-online, than to brag about ppl backstabing friends and exploiting trust.
Ohh wait we dont have lagg-free amazing fleet combat... now I understand.
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Amantea
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Lisa Payne
Wouldn't it be far more effective to brag about the amazing fleet combat and alliance wars in Eve-online, than to brag about ppl backstabing friends and exploiting trust.
Ohh wait we dont have lagg-free amazing fleet combat... now I understand.
We obviously don't have a mature player base full of constructive critisicm either 
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:09:00 -
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Well done, you answered your own question in your own post in your own thread. 
I honestly don't see the point of this thread. What are you wanting them to do?
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Caleb Paine
Infinite Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:10:00 -
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Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back. |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:13:00 -
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/me checks if the sky is falling... nope, still there. Also has a sun today. Ah, nice. :)
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Viktor Beck
The Older Gamers
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:14:00 -
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It's more intresting of a story when backstabbing and betrayal is involved to be honest.
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turnschuh
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
goonswarm + another few thousand ppl
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Waragha
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
goonswarm + another few thousand ppl
From the people who brought us goonswarm?
Originally by: Trepkos
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The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
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Teresa Daluca
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:21:00 -
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yea and somehow I think we just got more scammers into eve after this..
****
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:46:00 -
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I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Engelious Angelion
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:50:00 -
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uhm....Yes...
all i can say is..
SIGND
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Hori To
Minmatar
Rifter Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
that would be me amongst others
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:51:00 -
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Well I don't know really. Seems "many vs many" is done many times over in other games, maybe not in ships but nevertheless. So to show amazing fleet battles would differentiate EVE how? Scamming, intrigue, GHSC heist...well that sort of thing is pretty uncommon, and is usually NOT ALLOWED in other games or seriously frowned upon. My laymen's understanding of marketing is that you advertise the stuff that makes you stand out from the rest. Gives the customer a reason to consider your product versus the dozen of other products out there.
But yah I get your point Lisa. It's not a very good one though imo. If it was a cleverly disguised request for REMOVING LAG, then ya I'm all over that. Less lag please CCP! Otherwise, the OP was just flamebait.
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Melissy
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
/me raises hand
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Lisa Payne
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Detavi Kade
If it was a cleverly disguised request for REMOVING LAG, then ya I'm all over that. Less lag please CCP!
Finally someone who understood my request :)
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lisa Payne
Originally by: Detavi Kade
If it was a cleverly disguised request for REMOVING LAG, then ya I'm all over that. Less lag please CCP!
Finally someone who understood my request :)
Well, I'm willing to lose all the bookmarks if everyone else is.
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Furnok Dorn
Jita Bureau of Investigation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:08:00 -
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Yeah, talking about the horrific fleet lag would definately attract more players to the game
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Zhelavar
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zhelavar on 06/09/2006 15:42:59
Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
Exactly. Drama sells. Newspapers, soap operas, and reality TV wouldn't draw the crowds if they used a 'puppies and petunias' approach to advertising.
It's a tale of drama, trust, backstabbing, shady characters, community interaction and pitchfork/torch raising, transactions with currency amounts in the billions, and how it all affect the community and the economy.
In a game where there's nothing to do but spam LFG and go on 3hr raids, this could probably never happen, but neither can any of the myriad of other things that happen in EVE on a daily basis.
Talking about the latest IGB reference site, community resource or a corp's earnings from ship building doesn't sell the game to people as well drama does. :)
EVE TV got plugged, the new expansions get plugged... all the features and highlights of EVE get their time in the spotlight.
Caleb is on the money... this stuff gets people reading. ;)
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine
Have you ever guessed at the amount of people that were drawn to EVE due to the GS-HC heist?
GS-HC??? Guided Social Hands Club?? 
I like that name more than GH-SC (Guided Hands Social Club)
I was in the corp that got heisted by Aranis Xemdal, an awefull experience really, but also tought me one or 2 things.
Seen from a game perspective, its a great job they did. 10 months of lying, deciving and gaining trust.
Seen from a personal perspective, it was a low pathetic thing to do.
I guess if I had gotten it through my head earlier that is an essential thing in the game, it wouldn't have been such a bad experience.
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Michiyo Daishi
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:24:00 -
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As they say in Hollywood:
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:25:00 -
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Quote:
Wouldn't it be far more effective to brag about the amazing fleet combat and alliance wars in Eve-online, than to brag about ppl backstabing friends and exploiting trust.
Umm...lets see...no.
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Teresa Daluca
yea and somehow I think we just got more scammers into eve after this..
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QFT. "I can't be an ass in any other game, because the GM's will ban me, but I can be an ass in Eve, whohooo!". Attracting flies to....... or so the saying goes.
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Leverton
Caldari
Research Associates
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
/me checks if the sky is falling... nope, still there. Also has a sun today. Ah, nice. :)
The sun is nice today.
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Zhelavar
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard
Originally by: Teresa Daluca
yea and somehow I think we just got more scammers into eve after this..
****
QFT. "I can't be an ass in any other game, because the GM's will ban me, but I can be an ass in Eve, whohooo!". Attracting flies to....... or so the saying goes.
Actually, it works quite the other way in the vast majority of the cases. Problem players try out games like EVE, find out that there are repercussions and consequences for their behavior, and flee back to other games where they can circumvent the rules - games where the victim has no recourse available for retribution, revenge, or recouperation of losses.
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Tarack
Caldari
Tal Shiar
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:46:00 -
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Thank you for making the thread that gives me my new sig ....
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Rabbitgod
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.06 22:05:00 -
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EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.06 22:48:00 -
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i have alot of firends who have heard of the EIB scandal.
doesnt want to make them play the game when you explain it to them.
makes them kinda go WTF.
<<yes i know it says im in a nube corp, but i assure you this is my 1 and only char.
i just havent found the right group of people in a corp yet. only 2mos old ffs.>> |
DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zhelavar
Originally by: BurnHard
Originally by: Teresa Daluca
yea and somehow I think we just got more scammers into eve after this..
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QFT. "I can't be an ass in any other game, because the GM's will ban me, but I can be an ass in Eve, whohooo!". Attracting flies to....... or so the saying goes.
Actually, it works quite the other way in the vast majority of the cases. Problem players try out games like EVE, find out that there are repercussions and consequences for their behavior, and flee back to other games where they can circumvent the rules - games where the victim has no recourse available for retribution, revenge, or recouperation of losses.
and where have yo been hiding our head???
Eve is ripe with the lamest game players, because CCP rarely enforses any rule that a large group colaberate on to use, because CCP can not risk losing a few accounts, in order to ensure more will sign up...you wonder why other games have 10x the subscribers (or more), it isn't because the games are better, it is because they do not allow exploit users to remain in the game.
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Galifardeua
Gallente
Completament Tarats
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: DukDodgerz
Eve is ripe with the lamest game players, because CCP rarely enforses any rule that a large group colaberate on to use, because CCP can not risk losing a few accounts, in order to ensure more will sign up...you wonder why other games have 10x the subscribers (or more), it isn't because the games are better, it is because they do not allow exploit users to remain in the game.
Look at some MMORPGs statistics and see how EvE is one of the few MMORPGs that show an increase of subscriptions without any decrease of them (that is, more people come in than those that go out). And not many games have many more players, there are 11 other MMORPGS in the 120K+ range, and only three of them have th 10x that you ask for
And, AFAIK, people have been banned for different motives, so it's not as there was a lot of exploiters not attacked. Unless you consider a exploit something allowed (scamming), not forbbiden (log-in traps) or that you don't like (warp stabs, gate camping), of course.
Have fun.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: DukDodgerz on 07/09/2006 00:41:23
Originally by: Galifardeua
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Eve is ripe with the lamest game players, because CCP rarely enforses any rule that a large group colaberate on to use, because CCP can not risk losing a few accounts, in order to ensure more will sign up...you wonder why other games have 10x the subscribers (or more), it isn't because the games are better, it is because they do not allow exploit users to remain in the game.
Look at some MMORPGs statistics and see how EvE is one of the few MMORPGs that show an increase of subscriptions without any decrease of them (that is, more people come in than those that go out). And not many games have many more players, there are 11 other MMORPGS in the 120K+ range, and only three of them have th 10x that you ask for
And, AFAIK, people have been banned for different motives, so it's not as there was a lot of exploiters not attacked. Unless you consider a exploit something allowed (scamming), not forbbiden (log-in traps) or that you don't like (warp stabs, gate camping), of course.
Have fun.
sorry but that site shows ENB as one of the current games....so the data is old, not acurate by far.
now saying that, even the old total subscribers of the top games exceeds 1 million....and while eve is on this chart from the site you indicated can't even show eve as a blip on the radar in comparison.
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