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Airmaker
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2006.09.06 13:56:00 -
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Don't know if this has to do with the patch, but sinse this morning the lvl 3 agent I've been using has given really crap loyaty points out - 35 point and 29 points - wtf prior to the patch it was in the hundreds!
Agent is Buvesone Balluemene, lvl III -18 (yeah I know its bad, but its the change in rewards I'm more concerned about).
Anyone else got the same or know whats going on.
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Prant
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:54:00 -
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Yeah, im seeing a lot of joke missions just like that since the patch - at least for the newly restored L3 and 4 courier missions.
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Velvok
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:07:00 -
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I did some level 1 and level 2 missions last night, and noticed the same thing. Combat missions offered by these agents (while harder) still offer loyalty points in the hundreds. Courier missions offer between ten and thirty points.
What a waste of time these missions have become!
Someone please tell me all those skillpoints I invested in connections and negotiation and the like aren't wasted! 
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:11:00 -
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LP and rewards are based on player completion of missions, and take a short while to reach equilibrium after mission changes.
They'll slowly revert to normal over the next couple of days.
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Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Pakalolo
LP and rewards are based on player completion of missions, and take a short while to reach equilibrium after mission changes.
They'll slowly revert to normal over the next couple of days.
I used to believe that only the bonus reward time was dependant of the other players...
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Loraen
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pakalolo
LP and rewards are based on player completion of missions, and take a short while to reach equilibrium after mission changes.
They'll slowly revert to normal over the next couple of days.
My beef with these is that these missions pretty much seem aimed at level 1 couriering, not level 4.
After a couple hours break, I just went to do some more of these lame couriers and the first adjustment has hit. Bonus time limit and LP rewards almost halved and the already crappy reward cash was cut from 120k'ish to 90k.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Pakalolo
LP and rewards are based on player completion of missions, and take a short while to reach equilibrium after mission changes.
They'll slowly revert to normal over the next couple of days.
Correct.
Rewards are certainly dynamically scaled based on the length of time it takes the average pilot to complete the mission. Unless the patch reset them to zero time or the missions are new and thus automatically set to zero, low rewards means people are completing it super fast, which could indicate an exploit.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.09.07 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Loraen
90k.
What? you get 90k from a level 1 agent? I just got 110k form a level 4 quality 18 agent in 0.5 space... BLOODY HELL!!!
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:41:00 -
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Level 4 Q20 manufacturing agent in low sec 1043 LP for 2 jumps (guess CCP has decided it watns courier pilots in low sec only)
welcome to the new eve carebears 
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Ezra
Gallente
Calista Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Pakalolo
LP and rewards are based on player completion of missions, and take a short while to reach equilibrium after mission changes.
They'll slowly revert to normal over the next couple of days.
Correct.
Rewards are certainly dynamically scaled based on the length of time it takes the average pilot to complete the mission. Unless the patch reset them to zero time or the missions are new and thus automatically set to zero, low rewards means people are completing it super fast, which could indicate an exploit.
Not likely an exploit. More likely the missions simply suck - What people seem to be forgetting to mention is that these crap rewards are for missions with crap difficulty. Level 4 agents are giving out missions that can be done in a shuttle! In fact, it sounds like the majority of L4 couriers are small-cargo missions that should be only given out by L1 agents.
As to that one 1043 LP 2-jump mission - How much cargo was it? Was it Insane Industrialists, which was one of the only remaining courier missions between the release of Dragon and the latest patch? Insane Indus was around that much reward for me (assuming none of the specialty connections skills - reward with Labor Connections 4 was around 1300 for me.) and involved hauling 2.5mill trit. (i.e. about 25k m3 cargo)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ezra
Not likely an exploit. More likely the missions simply suck - What people seem to be forgetting to mention is that these crap rewards are for missions with crap difficulty. Level 4 agents are giving out missions that can be done in a shuttle! In fact, it sounds like the majority of L4 couriers are small-cargo missions that should be only given out by L1 agents.
As to that one 1043 LP 2-jump mission - How much cargo was it? Was it Insane Industrialists, which was one of the only remaining courier missions between the release of Dragon and the latest patch? Insane Indus was around that much reward for me (assuming none of the specialty connections skills - reward with Labor Connections 4 was around 1300 for me.) and involved hauling 2.5mill trit. (i.e. about 25k m3 cargo)
Not likely an exploit but also not likely that the low LP is an inherent factor. The missions were shut down for several days and the rewards run on an average time for completion. Chances are that when the missions stopped being given out, that average took a dive by being force-fed a zero every day. It'll be back to normal soon.
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Loraen
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Not likely an exploit but also not likely that the low LP is an inherent factor. The missions were shut down for several days and the rewards run on an average time for completion. Chances are that when the missions stopped being given out, that average took a dive by being force-fed a zero every day. It'll be back to normal soon.
Actually, these missions are brand-new so they all started off from some kind of default value for rewards and such.
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Loraen
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
Originally by: Loraen
90k.
What? you get 90k from a level 1 agent? I just got 110k form a level 4 quality 18 agent in 0.5 space... BLOODY HELL!!!
No, level 4.. in 0.6.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Loraen
Originally by: Nyphur
Not likely an exploit but also not likely that the low LP is an inherent factor. The missions were shut down for several days and the rewards run on an average time for completion. Chances are that when the missions stopped being given out, that average took a dive by being force-fed a zero every day. It'll be back to normal soon.
Actually, these missions are brand-new so they all started off from some kind of default value for rewards and such.
There you go, that explains it (and I did mention that as a possibility above).
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