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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Josiah Bartlet Edited by: Josiah Bartlet on 07/09/2006 02:09:08
Originally by: Isaac Orion FYI, when you attack one of us, you are attacking all of us. We work together around here. Farscape, I don't want to start anything, but it wasn't suppose to be a 1v1 at all from the start. If Brunholdi really wanted to do a 1v1, we would have let him. But like I said, we work together. It was my plan from the start, so blame me and no one else if you want to start something. I am a very honorable person, but when a friend of mine gets attack, I fight back in any way possible. Thanks.
-Isaac Orion
Nice try to justify it. I guess those who arent very good have to resort to those kind of tactics to (try) get a kill.
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Alberta
Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Orion FYI, when you attack one of us, you are attacking all of us. We work together around here. Farscape, I don't want to start anything, but it wasn't suppose to be a 1v1 at all from the start. If Brunholdi really wanted to do a 1v1, we would have let him. But like I said, we work together. It was my plan from the start, so blame me and no one else if you want to start something. I am a very honorable person, but when a friend of mine gets attack, I fight back in any way possible. Thanks.
-Isaac Orion
Hi.
Fine I'll lay all the blame at your doorstep and will be having a little chat with your CEO at the weekend. While Dreamscape has never been a particularly great PvP force, they have always been 100% honourable. I dislike you dragging down the name of a once fine corporation I was proud to be a member of.
That is all.
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Will Fireblade
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:14:00 -
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lol dont which one is worst. dishonoring the 1v1 (if there is such a thing) or not killing you after they decide to warp to you :P
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:01:00 -
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I am absolutely heartbroken for you.
The fact that you went 30 jumps into hostile 0.0 and your enemies wouldn't agree to your demand for a 1v1 is outrageous.
I hope you bought an 18th century leather glove, so that you could slap the face of the offenders.
I would have done exactly the same thing except hopefully killed and podded ur sorry ass. What gives you the right to swan around hostile 0.0 and demand 1v1 ?
Anyone who would trust hostiles they are trying to gank is an idiot, and you can stick your notion of honour up your stabbed up deimos tailpipe Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
KIATolon
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:14:00 -
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They did agree, THAT'S the issue.
Lame
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Brisi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: Brisi on 07/09/2006 08:45:36
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am absolutely heartbroken for you.
The fact that you went 30 jumps into hostile 0.0 and your enemies wouldn't agree to your demand for a 1v1 is outrageous.
I hope you bought an 18th century leather glove, so that you could slap the face of the offenders.
I would have done exactly the same thing except hopefully killed and podded ur sorry ass. What gives you the right to swan around hostile 0.0 and demand 1v1 ?
Anyone who would trust hostiles they are trying to gank is an idiot, and you can stick your notion of honour up your stabbed up deimos tailpipe
He didn't demand any kind of 1vs1, he asked for one. Deimos vs Deimos (as I understand it). The other guy accepted, and when he broke the duel he became a dishonourable liar and needs to get flamed on the forums, so that others may know what they did and flame them when they see them.
And the fact that they couldn't even kill him speaks for itself.
I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon They did agree, THAT'S the issue.
Lame
I guess everyone is REALLY bored at work today..
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kbullet
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:08:00 -
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gj of getting out, yup dishournoring 1v1, warping 6 other guys on you and they cant finish you off that's TOTALLY LAME
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Brisi Edited by: Brisi on 07/09/2006 08:45:36
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am absolutely heartbroken for you.
The fact that you went 30 jumps into hostile 0.0 and your enemies wouldn't agree to your demand for a 1v1 is outrageous.
I hope you bought an 18th century leather glove, so that you could slap the face of the offenders.
I would have done exactly the same thing except hopefully killed and podded ur sorry ass. What gives you the right to swan around hostile 0.0 and demand 1v1 ?
Anyone who would trust hostiles they are trying to gank is an idiot, and you can stick your notion of honour up your stabbed up deimos tailpipe
He didn't demand any kind of 1vs1, he asked for one. Deimos vs Deimos (as I understand it). The other guy accepted, and when he broke the duel he became a dishonourable liar and needs to get flamed on the forums, so that others may know what they did and flame them when they see them.
And the fact that they couldn't even kill him speaks for itself.
1) If someone wants to 1v1 and is omgace pvper, why go 30 jumps past ec- to a carebear / npc system ?
2) So you guys are all upset because someone told a lie in eve ? I have been lied to by all kinds of entities in eve. During the old COD days a 'so called' friendly corp conned me into going to a gate and BOB jumped in and killed my bs, I didn't see everyone castigating them for it. Instead it was put down to excellent warfare strategy.
3) The fact they couldn't kill him perhaps does speak for itself, it confirms that he was in the wrong place if he was such a 'brave, fearless, solo' pvp'er he should have gone somewhere he would have found other pvpers who were closer to his level.
Maybe other IRON memebrs don't agree with my views on this, but it's how I feel, it's all hippocritical bull3**** imo Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Pestillence
Revelations Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:13:00 -
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What an embarassing bunch of pussies.
You failed so badly you couldn't even be accused of sucking. How sad.
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Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 07/09/2006 09:26:47 This is a brilliant twisted posting on what realy happened in czdj yesterday, but what can you expect from a cheap scoundrel that goes beserk on local.
We end the discussion here.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:34:00 -
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Was it just me or was your genius opponent not running a web on his Deimos?? --
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: PhatBoy See one reason i dont trust people the last guy that broke a 1v1 on me he was a crusader i was a crow i had a multispec on he got ****ed cuz i had him jammed at 5% structure he warped out i had half armor left. now we agreed no warp out so when he warped out i played him right back i told him i would fight him with the damage he did to me and he could repair i was gang leader he warped to me i warped him to my death star. this is a note to self i do believe they are suppose to be friendly with us but to break a 1v1 is unacceptable and i agree with u farscape if D2 are friendly to them i do believe it is a shame
best regaurds, Phatboy PVP commander
Tbh I would have warped out if someone brought Ew to a 1vs1
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
2) So you guys are all upset because someone told a lie in eve ? I have been lied to by all kinds of entities in eve. During the old COD days a 'so called' friendly corp conned me into going to a gate and BOB jumped in and killed my bs, I didn't see everyone castigating them for it. Instead it was put down to excellent warfare strategy.
Just because you can break your word in Eve, does not mean that it should be disregarded when you do or should be viewed as just as acceptable as keeping it.
And this thread is thankfully a reminder that it is not.
Mind you, the word has to be given under free will, and not due to any sort of physical or psychological pressure. But we are well clear of that here, it seems
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
2) So you guys are all upset because someone told a lie in eve ? I have been lied to by all kinds of entities in eve. During the old COD days a 'so called' friendly corp conned me into going to a gate and BOB jumped in and killed my bs, I didn't see everyone castigating them for it. Instead it was put down to excellent warfare strategy.
Just because you can break your word in Eve, does not mean that it should be disregarded when you do or should be viewed as just as acceptable as keeping it.
And this thread is thankfully a reminder that it is not.
Mind you, the word has to be given under free will, and not due to any sort of physical or psychological pressure. But we are well clear of that here, it seems
You completely missed my point Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Audrea
Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:13:00 -
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Well, there is not a lot that can be done about those dishonoring 1v1... only one thing:
Write a note in his Notes tab under char info. so if you ever meet him, you wouldnt agree on 1v1.. and even better, plan him a trap of your own
If enough players do that, he will some day realize why every action one takes in game, recieves equally powerful reaction ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Coranor on 07/09/2006 10:24:56
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
Originally by: Trak Cranker
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
2) So you guys are all upset because someone told a lie in eve ? I have been lied to by all kinds of entities in eve. During the old COD days a 'so called' friendly corp conned me into going to a gate and BOB jumped in and killed my bs, I didn't see everyone castigating them for it. Instead it was put down to excellent warfare strategy.
Just because you can break your word in Eve, does not mean that it should be disregarded when you do or should be viewed as just as acceptable as keeping it.
And this thread is thankfully a reminder that it is not.
Mind you, the word has to be given under free will, and not due to any sort of physical or psychological pressure. But we are well clear of that here, it seems
You completely missed my point
Well tbh you've completely missed the point of this entire thread so who cares.
Incidently i gave up on 1v1's a long time ago. The last one i did was me in a crow vs a claw and i ended up having a zealot dropped on my head. Still survived and killed the claw though but it just goes to show that some people can't be trusted to either honour it or as in my last case not to interfere. --------------
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
You completely missed my point
Pretty sure I didn't. "Its just a lie - nothing more - happens all the time". But there is a difference in lying and giving your word and breaking it.
And acceptance of a 1v1 is giving your word that it is in fact a 1v1. It is implied.
On top of that, 1v1 duels has a special place in Eve. More than in many other matters you expect people to respect the agreement of the duel.
For many reasons I will never accept one, though. I know the one proposing it will have a setup with 1-1 in mind more than me, and I have little understanding for the value of the concept in general.
But I know that should I accept one, I am obligated to play it clean. By corp and alliance. And myself for that matter.
You want people to be indifferent to people not standing up to their word. You wan't people to ignore that someone does not keep to an agreement. "Because it happens all over".
But apparently is does matter, if you read this thread.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:55:00 -
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I am not trying to defend ppl breaking their word.
I just felt compelled to defend the 'smaller guy' who I feel is being picked on, in this situation.
What I was attempting to point out, is that it's o.k. and prefectly acceptable for the 'big boys' to use underhand and devious tactics, but not for the smaller eve entities ?
Anyway I will end my participation in this thread.
Congratulations to solid on this PR coup :
Going from blue to red by flying with LV and killing friendlies (HONOUR ???)
Using your knowledge of friendly dek corps to engineer publicity and planning that went into it, gratz Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Lag Fest
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lag Fest on 07/09/2006 11:58:05 pathetic move tbh. bunch of pussies. too bad u're dragging down decent corps. _______________________________________
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Falconetta
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Alberta
Originally by: Isaac Orion FYI, when you attack one of us, you are attacking all of us. We work together around here. Farscape, I don't want to start anything, but it wasn't suppose to be a 1v1 at all from the start. If Brunholdi really wanted to do a 1v1, we would have let him. But like I said, we work together. It was my plan from the start, so blame me and no one else if you want to start something. I am a very honorable person, but when a friend of mine gets attack, I fight back in any way possible. Thanks.
-Isaac Orion
Hi.
Fine I'll lay all the blame at your doorstep and will be having a little chat with your CEO at the weekend. While Dreamscape has never been a particularly great PvP force, they have always been 100% honourable. I dislike you dragging down the name of a once fine corporation I was proud to be a member of.
That is all.
Guess there will be two of us stopping by Mr Ggrims office this weekend. Honour and integrity has always been key words in Dreamscape, better go make sure this hasn't changed.
/F
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H Zub
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:23:00 -
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I've done lots and lots of 1v1, and noone ever dishonoured me. The Hunter Hypnotized
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:28:00 -
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Farscape just get into to your crow of doom and annihilate their enitre corp
By the looks of their skills it's possible imo
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Apocalypsee
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am not trying to defend ppl breaking their word.
I just felt compelled to defend the 'smaller guy' who I feel is being picked on, in this situation.
What I was attempting to point out, is that it's o.k. and prefectly acceptable for the 'big boys' to use underhand and devious tactics, but not for the smaller eve entities ?
Anyway I will end my participation in this thread.
Congratulations to solid on this PR coup :
Going from blue to red by flying with LV and killing friendlies (HONOUR ???)
Using your knowledge of friendly dek corps to engineer publicity and planning that went into it, gratz
Really????? Last i checked we shoot everyone living up north them included.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:16:00 -
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The response to this dishonouring of a duel by some makes this seem like one of the greatest single contemptable acts to happen in EVE in months. Maybe it wasnt a chivalrous act that they use the duel as a pretext for an ambush. Maybe it would be nice to see those involved repremanded for their actions. Maybe it is also the 14th Century where French Knights in shiney steel armor go round saving damsiels & champions duel to decide the outcome of fueds.
But its not the 14th Century. Chivalry is dead. If you want a duel, dont march into someone elses territory with a gang of no-do-gooders, looking to cause as much trouble & damage as you can before going back home. While a slightly underhanded method, ambushing & destroying your ship is an efficient tactic in reducing the fighting ability of the enemy.
Those of you who cry for honour & chivalry go form your own duelling club. Such idealisms became unfashionable in day to day life along long time ago. Stop being nostalgic & just accept that not everyone thinks that way anymore. The only thing that is truely repremandable in this affair is the ambushers failed to scramble you before you got away. _______________________________________________ The above comments & views do not reflect the opinions of Cosmic Odyssey or Chorus of Dawn; just those of an enlightened member |
KIATolon
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am not trying to defend ppl breaking their word.
I just felt compelled to defend the 'smaller guy' who I feel is being picked on, in this situation.
What I was attempting to point out, is that it's o.k. and prefectly acceptable for the 'big boys' to use underhand and devious tactics, but not for the smaller eve entities ?
Yes, farscape picked on their ENTIRE fleet with his deimos. Stupid griefer that he is. I may be wrong but I doubt farscape gives an ounce of rats ballfluff about any politics.
I also dont think any, or many posting their distaste of this situation consider it acceptable for the big boys to do it either.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche The response to this dishonouring of a duel by some makes this seem like one of the greatest single contemptable acts to happen in EVE in months. Maybe it wasnt a chivalrous act that they use the duel as a pretext for an ambush. Maybe it would be nice to see those involved repremanded for their actions. Maybe it is also the 14th Century where French Knights in shiney steel armor go round saving damsiels & champions duel to decide the outcome of fueds.
But its not the 14th Century. Chivalry is dead. If you want a duel, dont march into someone elses territory with a gang of no-do-gooders, looking to cause as much trouble & damage as you can before going back home. While a slightly underhanded method, ambushing & destroying your ship is an efficient tactic in reducing the fighting ability of the enemy.
Even for evil pirates there are codes to follow, one v ones when excepted by a modern pilot have the same houner as knights in armor in present day as they do then, those that break them/can't get the head around them, are like the vulture type peasent folk who wait to steel the pennies from blind old ladies and get hanged with eveybody laughing.
maybe for u u have lost all sence of respect for that, it happend in the old days, and those people had names then! week u are to think like that and without a soul to speek of, shall be my pleasure to relave u of ur life less corpse.
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:28:00 -
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Can we do name and shame for amount of warp core stabs too?
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Spawny
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:33:00 -
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Farscape was a complete ass he dont mencen that he shoot my corp m8 half in armor ^^
and this is what he thinks Log on Convo
Farscape Hw > yes? Spawny > hi dont shoot at my corp m8"s Farscape Hw > lol ok Farscape Hw > whatever Spawny > we should be friends m8 Farscape Hw > are you friends with iron? Spawny > yes Spawny > and fla Spawny > and D2 Farscape Hw > then your neutral to me Farscape Hw > d2 is another story Farscape Hw > iron shoot us so we set them -10 Spawny > D2 is friends very good ones asweel Farscape Hw > as with us Spawny > if u dont shoot us sure u are Spawny > we are residents here allowed by D2 Spawny > so we should be friends m8 we arent hostile to u guys Spawny > what iron does to ur corp is none off my business Farscape Hw > have to talk to ceo about it Farscape Hw > you will Spawny > soo ? are u still gonna shoot us m8 cause then we will return fire if not then we are friends Farscape Hw > im pointed in a direction and i destroy everhthing and guess which way i was pointed today Spawny > well we arent the ones u need to kill m8 Farscape Hw > nbsi Farscape Hw > if you want standigns contact a director Spawny > well we are here because off D2 might Farscape Hw > contact Pacifica Farscape Hw > for standigns Spawny > well this log is gonna be reportet to D2 and then they will take it up Farscape Hw > im the corp hit man Farscape Hw > :) Spawny > i dont care shoot at us again and ill convo D2 directors making D2 very unhappy Farscape Hw > whatever dude, dont think i can set u + cuz im not a director nor can i make that decision Spawny > i could set u + Spawny > if u dont fire at us Farscape Hw > tel you what man, personally ide love to have al of eve neutral so dont talk to me anymore about standings ok? Spawny > again we are here by D2 laws Farscape Hw > im here by the farscapes laws of playing games Farscape Hw > :) Farscape Hw > first being have fun Spawny > so ull have to obey em asweel that meens no shooting between residents m8 Farscape Hw > second being have fun Farscape Hw > 3rd being .... have fun Farscape Hw > not speaking on behalf of solidline, i couldnt give 2 ****s about your laws man Farscape Hw > im not hte standings guy Spawny > its not my laws m8 its D2 Farscape Hw > i shoot whatever isnt blue and as i said if you want standings contact Pacifica Farscape Hw > i couldnt care less about anyones laws Farscape Hw > i just dont shoot blue guys Spawny > guys ur making urself look very bad Farscape Hw > if you want to be blue contact Pacifica Farscape Hw > guy singular Farscape Hw > im not more than 1 person Farscape Hw > im not a representitive of solid Farscape Hw > and by some icecubes chance in hell that you get us set to neutral by d2 then ide have a feild day, the whole of venal would be my killing grounds Farscape Hw > though alotof d2 are very nice guys and i like them Farscape Hw > its still a game Spawny > ya they are Spawny > i know but still wtf have we done to u m8 Spawny > nothing Farscape Hw > you were in a ship.... Farscape Hw > and in space Farscape Hw > and you went blue Farscape Hw > >:) Spawny > ok enough off ur bull this log goes to D2 bye might and shoot away Farscape Hw > sweet he focked up thats it end off story ...
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:45:00 -
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Spawny that log, while it does show Farscape a bit of an asshat in the situation, is completely irrelevant. Unless you have a log indicating that the 1v1 was not accepted, all points still stand.
Koronos
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