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Quadima
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:14:08 -
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So I'm not the only one....
THE
UI
IS
CAUSING
HEADACHES
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Whoever designed that blurry color changing piece of crap needs to be fired.
Also the person that approved it !
Seriously, CCP, NOBODY in that company of yours reported in all the weeks of testing that these new "wonderful" UI features are messing with our eyes/heads? Bloody hell.
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Also in the news. RIP Vindicator being awesome :( |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:32:16 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:The map is amazing. I love it.
Yea. Amazing blurry mess in which you can't see anything properly !
Thanks god it's optional...
(The star grouping idea is interesting however)
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Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:05:34 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:
I felt nauseated after first 30 minutes on live version, wheere I could spend an hour on SiSi without issues. I've now tried to play for an hour and I've vomited once. Not in my head, I mean literal expulsion of stomach contents.
Unless the UI gets all the blinking windown when focused, losing focus and just turning your camera removed, I have to consider stopping.
It's the focus changing animations.
At every click stuff keeps getting brighter and darker... terrible terrible.
A lot of people are going to the hospital after this patch...
And then there's the incoming lawsuits against CCP.
"My kid played your game in the last 4 hours and I found him on the floor with foam on his mouth"
The people that wrote in the feedback forum from SISI "I love the new UI" DIDN'T ACTUALLY PLAY THE F'KIN GAME !
This UI It's the worst change I ever seen since I started this game for years ago!
Considering a direct and total stop in trying to play it until the damn thing is usable again...
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P.S. Flat icons = S*H*I*T |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:41:36 -
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History of last 3-4 years in "design":
* Microsoft makes the next OS flat and gay
* Apple dumps skeuomorphism and makes every flat and crappy and inconsistent in their next iOS
* The rest of the designers lack any imagination and just follow the two giants blindly
* Google attempts to save face by making an "almost flat" design which "almost" works.
* The rest of the designers are too dumb to make their own unique look and just make everything flat and boring.
* CCP copies the trend and destroys EVE's UI into something almost unusable, by imitating technology from the 80's ( wasn't there a picture of an antique analogue oscilloscope in the dev blog ? )
Excellent work guys, excellent!
Truly "the future" !
I don't want to live on this planet anymore |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:30:15 -
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Windows 8 + 8.1 barely cracks 15% market share after more than 2 years since the introduction of new interface:
https://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/os_share_october_2014.png
And that is because it's being shoved in with every new computer / laptop.
If it were just about people upgrading or choosing their OS at computer buy time, it wouldn't even made it to 5%. Even with all the improvements to speed, new devices support, etc.
WHY?
Because it's interface sucks, plain and simple !
And, similar to this thread, while there are various trolls claiming " It's great, it's fantastic, I love it "... MOST PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT.
The world is beautiful, colorful, alive, three-dimensional... our brains are adapted to that.
These "modern" flattish ugly interface are an insult to our collective intellect.
Seriously, is there such a massive shortage of artists that everyone can only do monochrome pen and pencil designs ? Seesh ...
THIS IS REAL
This is NOT real (Scene from Equilibrium Movie)
Get a hint CCP ! |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.10 02:27:01 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:
It was thanks to a couple dozen dedicated testers that the UI became something presentable and usable. And while it may be something radically different from what you're used to, it is by no means bad. The UI was almost 10 years old for crying out loud, it was in dire need of an update.
Massive change just for the sake of change ?
And no, what we had before yesterday is not that old, it was changed several times (subtly) and people enjoyed the improvements, or got time to adapt to it.
How about doing it like this:
- Introduce a radical new UI as a "beta" option and let people actually PLAY the game with it, not just take a quick look on SiSi not really doing anything there...
- Start checking statistics... how many players are using the NEW, how many are using the OLD
- Keep improving based on feedback and new ideas
- When the "New" becomes used over 70-80% it's clear that it's well received and tuned enough, set it as default for everyone who hasn't change it yet.
- Still leave the option to use the old one for nostalgics
- When the usage of the old version drops below 10% or so it's clear that people like the new one and are not interested in the old one anymore. NOW you can actually remove it from the game.
Remember "The DOOR", or the "Gray guns" ?
I have a feeling something like this will happen again.
Jita protest #2 ?
Massive amounts of subscription cancelled ?
Thousands of petitions crying that the game is unusable ?
Do you think I actually like typing all this crap instead of playing the game? No. I want to play the game, but I can't because it looks utterly rubbish and it hurts my eyes ... |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:06:31 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:I seriously doubt it hurts anyone's eyes. People are probably making it up because they think it means CCP will listen to them.
Start reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitivity_in_humans
1. Logging into the game after update: "Woooo, new interface, cool !"
2. Chosen one of the colors I liked, starting doing some market orders...
... noticed something weird it in the first 10 minutes of clicking on market stuff... strange sensation. Vision become blurry and I became dizzy and vomiting sensation for no reason.
3. Exited the game, sensation dissipating.
Resumed EVE 10 mins later, same thing happening.
4. Went to the forum to see what the people are saying.
SURPRISE ! (or not). A lot more people are complaining about the same thing.
After that I started posting. And you know what ? There's a LOT of people saying the same thing.
Maybe it isn't affecting everyone, but it is certainly affecting plenty of folks !
A game change that is causing nausea and headaches to a lot of people should certainly raise a big alarm signal for the developers ! This is not a matter of preference or "liking". It is something that needs to be addressed urgently !
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Crybaby ?
I'm not complaining about CODE. blowing up some Retriever, I'm complaining about the game MAKING ME SICK IN REAL LIFE. Spot the difference ! |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:16:40 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Hallvardr wrote:
It would be nice if the forums has a vote function.
Only works if people are explicitly informed and even then, not everyone will care. The only people who are going to talk about it are the ones with a problem. People with no problem have nothing to say, and are too busy enjoying the game to vote on its features.
So your assumption is that if someone doesn't say anything on these forums it means they like it all and have no comment, right?
Let's see...
- Over half of the user base does not speak English. This basically excludes them from these feedback forums, they probably don't even understand what's going on since they were unable to read the Dev blogs.
* Edit - I see that some stuff is posted in Russian and German but the amount of responses is rather small
- There's a lot of people who are not socially interacting at all (for various reasons), or do not consider forums a good way to express themselves ( They are the ones usually filing petitions )
- There's a lot of people who just don't care. The interface or the game could look in any possible way, as long as their lasers keep drilling those rocks, it's all fine. Maybe they like it, maybe they don't, they just don't give a f**k.
- There's another lot of people who are maybe afraid to speak out, due to the harsh nature of this game. They rather stick in their little corner and do those missions and try to be invisible... Not that hard to search someone in game and wardec/grief them, right?
- There's other people who might have tried to voice their opinion in the past and were shut down or ignored ... and then they went into the "Whatever, f**k it." mode where they just don't want to waste any more time if nobody listens.
And then there's the rest of us, who DO GIVE A F**K about what's going on.
And even if the rest of us are just a small minority of the TOTAL population of the game, the fact that in THIS minority 80% or god knows how much say that it's a change for the worst, statistics rules say that PROBABLY the same pattern applies for the rest which were not interviewed/did not express an opinion ( YET ).
And you're saying that we should just suck up to whatever trash is being dumped on us and "adapt" ? Ha ! Good joke. |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.11 00:46:29 -
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Well, except for the ever-present trolls (who probably don't even play the game for real, or if they do they are just dicking around jita playing station games), it appears to me there's a general consensus in this feedback thread:
- The new UI is still crap even after all the SiSi feedback (where people said the same that it's crap) and needs to be worked on a lot more ( like the new map ). Until then It MUST be optional.
Monochrome flat stuff is totally out of place with the rest of the game. Unless you change it ALL (every little bloody icon and symbol in the game, just don't do it half-way !)
- Lots of people ( me included ) are getting very distracted by the flashy focus, causing vision problems, headaches and other bad medical symptoms
- New map is interesting but still needs lots of work ( statistics data is nearly invisible, travel route the same ). Too blurry. Not really useful
- Everyone in EvE is a 5yr old crybaby. There's no such thing as constructive criticism...
 
I hope CCP realize their mistake and gives us...
... the mighty ...
OPTIONS.
(instead of just shoving this "beta", incomplete and bugged interface up our ***)
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Alternatively, how about simply drawing new colorful HD icons ?
You know, there's A LOT of talent for hire "out there"
http://www.iconarchive.com/popular.html |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.11 07:48:20 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Please stop bitching around for no reason
Let's say you take your car to the paint shop to give it a nice red shiny fresh look, and instead you receive a fugly manure green color with
brownish stains and a lot of scratches ...
Then you ask "What the f*** is this ?? I wanted a nice shiny red paint job and I get this??
What if the shop owner answers "ADAPT TO IT".
You adapt or punch him in the face ?
I guess the answer is pretty clear... |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:27:23 -
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I find the lack of replies from CCP... disturbing. |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.16 12:33:17 -
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To all the people that said to me (and to others):
"Use it, try it, and then you can comment".
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One week later:
IT'S STILL HORRIBLE.
Sorry. |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.18 06:10:36 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Shut up wrote:
How about we get our choice? Seems that s all we are asking for here. It is not a one size fits all type of game, never has been and never should be, it's all about options.
No, because if they did this every time they made a change to the game, the client would be too bloated to play.
What I wrote to CCP in a ticket as well, and if they continue to ignore it I will keep writing them every week, is
ONE SIMPLE REQUEST:
Allow us to disable the focus tracking animations/change in luminosity / translucency, blur
Just an option to keep the interface LOCKED in a fixed state ( no focus tracking, no animations, no blur, etc. )
... so the brain can be focused on the things that are moving and you actually CARE about
... like
... enemy
... SHIPS.
And yea, traders and other people who are clicking in the interface a lot, their eyes are getting tired really fast from all this blurry mess.
I'm quite sure that would not bloat the client, isn't it ?
p.s. - Ability to customize colors would be nice as well, yea.
With the icons, as ugly as they are, we can live with... but it wouldn't hurt to be able to put a different CUSTOM background color on each of them!
Sooooo many people would be please with just these very very simple changes to the interface.
AH YES, one final thing, option to make OPAQUE NEOCOM PLEASE !
2nd p.s. - Even if all of us that do not like the new interface are a minority ( a quite large minority ), we are still CUSTOMERS.
Customers which are totaling several thousand $ or Euro /month. I'm sure it would be wise for a business not to ignore that aspect ... at least try to make those customers less angry with small but significant improvements. |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:06:49 -
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Daryn Lei wrote:Looks to me EXACTLY like the old UI but with hard-coded themes and rediculous white pixels in the corners.
The old UI didn't flash like crazy when clicking on stuff...
Yea, I know, I sound like a broken record
But then, paying for a couple of accounts (with real money) and not being able to play properly because of the headaches... And now CCP is in vacation and nothing is being done. Awesome ... 
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