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Alicia Aishai
Orange Crescent
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:21:55 -
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Signal11th wrote:Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.:
1: Some morons will go there to grief.
2: Some morons will go there because it's new.
3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it.
Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace.
+1 
I actually struggle to see what Thera is good for.
- Obviously not PVE.
- PVP looks pretty stupid there; seems like there are lot better places to PVP.
- Some people said "base for a raiding fleet" but give how risky this is to use stations and that most WH exit are in high with only few in 0.0. It doesn't look so practical.
So my guess is that people are going because it's new (reason #2 above) but in the end, it will be a few people there staying for epeen (reason #1). Which is good because a few less epeen-minded people in the rest of EVE helps us all! |
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
28
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Posted - 2014.12.15 15:22:21 -
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Don't like how Thera currently works? Form a Thera Police corp, recruit in members, fly around and pop people camping stations.
Work out arrangements with freighter corps to provide escort for their goods for a nice fee. Ally with the larger WH corps that they'll provide backup as needed while in system but doing so provides them with a safe haven of trade and clones.
Watch it all blow up from time to time as no-fire agreements get broken or nullsec alliances swarm the place and lock it down for a time until they get bored and leave.
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Signal11th
1523
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Posted - 2014.12.15 15:24:10 -
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Dracones wrote:Don't like how Thera currently works? Form a Thera Police corp, recruit in members, fly around and pop people camping stations.
Work out arrangements with freighter corps to provide escort for their goods for a nice fee. Ally with the larger WH corps that they'll provide backup as needed while in system but doing so provides them with a safe haven of trade and clones.
Watch it all blow up from time to time as no-fire agreements get broken or nullsec alliances swarm the place and lock it down for a time until they get bored and leave.
lol or just ignore Thera and not bother will all the work.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
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Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
40
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Posted - 2014.12.15 15:28:04 -
[184] - Quote
Ah EVE Online!
Where a single troll post can produce over 10 pages of comments 
9/10!! |
Signal11th
1523
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Posted - 2014.12.15 15:29:24 -
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Levina Windstar wrote:Ah EVE Online! Where a single troll post can produce over 10 pages of comments 9/10!!
That's not EVE online doing that it's being bored at work which is causing it.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
492
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Posted - 2014.12.15 16:13:01 -
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I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2014.12.15 16:46:50 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden.
Market = PvP. |
Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
40
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Posted - 2014.12.15 17:00:13 -
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Sol Project wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP.
PvP = Thera |
Lupe Meza
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2014.12.15 18:21:26 -
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Signal11th wrote:Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.:
1: Some morons will go there to grief.
2: Some morons will go there because it's new.
3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it.
Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace.
I totally agree with this. EVE could use more "grease trap" systems like this. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
1930
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Posted - 2014.12.15 19:56:59 -
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lol
[u]Epic Space Cat[/u]
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Alejandro Rebenga
25
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Posted - 2014.12.15 20:41:40 -
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Isn't Thera the testbed for the afk-cloaky-slash-remove-local nullsec fix? |
Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
3286
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:19:49 -
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Alejandro Rebenga wrote:Isn't Thera the testbed for the afk-cloaky-slash-remove-local nullsec fix?
...* It hadn't occurred to me that Thera could be a guinea pig testing system. You might be on to something here. |
Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force
Cult of War
406
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:43:03 -
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You are correct sir it is not.
However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1220
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Posted - 2014.12.16 23:04:26 -
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Hevymetal wrote:You are correct sir it is not.
However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate.
spawn some vanguards and HQs and they will come.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5825
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Posted - 2014.12.16 23:13:20 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Hevymetal wrote:You are correct sir it is not.
However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate. spawn some vanguards and HQs and they will come.
Sansha incursion
Seriously - incursion fleets you cannot BLOPS/Cap drop and NPC AI that welcomes new targets...
Hmmm (DANGER: RP/LORE post incoming)
I wonder why Sansha has not tried to take over Thera? You'd think they would see the value of this target?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.12.16 23:37:54 -
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Levina Windstar wrote:Sol Project wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP. PvP = Thera
Thera = Market.
The forums are just a distraction to keep people from pushing items there.
In reality, the best idea would be to stockpile as much as you can there *now* ...
... before the major onslaught of people who want to cash in on this and prices tank.
The ones earning most are those providing the locals with ships and modules right now.
And the best part about the new industry ...
... is that everyone can build anywhere and a cost naturally balances local industry.
Assuming it's balanced here, that is.
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Crimson Draufgange
Extreme Overkill Inc.
The Bastard Cartel
16
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Posted - 2014.12.17 01:42:34 -
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Another thread full of carebear tears! Yes! I love it!
But seriously, you thought Thera was going to be PvE friendly? HAHAHAHA! 
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Badden Powell
Future Dynamics
16
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Posted - 2014.12.17 03:47:59 -
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"Thera not pve friendly!"
WHAT
THE
HELL
DID
YOU
EXPECT!?!?!?!?
As someone who can easily be classified as a carebear, I figured Thera would be a hot spot for "A shot Z because of 12" shenanigans. I know what i just said makes no sense... it doesn't have to. THIS IS EvE! You have how many tens of thousands of players on the same server at any given time from all over the world. Any one of them could on a whim, try something new, come across someone doing pve in Thera, and decide to start shooting, simply because they might never have shot at another player before and want to know what it's like. More than likely someone is coming out of this encounter minus their ship and fitting at MINIMUM. Welcome to the sandbox, where someone who never stomped down a sandcastle just stomped yours and decided they liked stomping sand castles. Do you cry and scream? Do you build a better sand castle? Or maybe you put on a disguise and ask them to teach you the art of "Castle Stomping"...
^^^THIS IS EvE. |
Badden Powell
Future Dynamics
16
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Posted - 2014.12.17 04:23:51 -
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Rowells wrote:thera was a pve system up until the second pilot showed up. then it became combat
ROFLMFAO!
You sir, have hit the nail on the head. |
Badden Powell
Future Dynamics
16
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Posted - 2014.12.17 04:29:28 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote: ... and here I was thinking because freighters were the one exception to the cap ship ban it would be like a new home to Red Frog and stuff ...
if anything, they will crunch numbers and do math and if it makes sense, open a thera - J space - K space division.
personally, i think that's a tall order. |
Darko Atlante
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
14
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Posted - 2014.12.17 13:42:36 -
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http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5287649+_f7b91f4bb6c51f483af2b1f9182537ad.png |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9123
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:22:28 -
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It goes to show that some people will use any excuse imaginable to hide their personal failures.
To date I've lost exactly 2 cheap PVE firgates in Thera, mean while i've made some nice pocket change using nothing but the aforementioned cheap frigs (this post brought to you by a sub paid for with a plex that itself was paid for using nothing but Thera generated income).
Just because you can't figure out how to pve in Thera doesn't make Thera 'unfriendly' to PVE. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Retribution.
191
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:26:00 -
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Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!
its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7059
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:28:14 -
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tiberiusric wrote:
its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen.
In what way is it stupid?
Why do you think this is not what they expected?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9123
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:29:30 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen.
They expected people to figure it out (and some of us already have).
There are these new inventions called "nullified ships" that ignore bubbles making getting in to Thera easy as pie. once in you can set a clone their and the market is sufficient to supply you with cheap pve ships. You can check any public killboard for my own Thera ships.
CCP shouldn't have to play the game for you. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Retribution.
191
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:34:56 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:tiberiusric wrote:Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen. They expected people to figure it out (and some of us already have). There are these new inventions called "nullified ships" that ignore bubbles making getting in to Thera easy as pie. once in you can set a clone their and the market is sufficient to supply you with cheap pve ships. You can check any public killboard for my own Thera ships. CCP shouldn't have to play the game for you.
let me advise you sonny after playing for over 10 years, ccp certainly don't play the game for me. The problem with these things is that quite simply you have a few factions that bubble the hell out of the place and just camp the station and that to me as a pvper is boring and lame, plus it spoils everything its about. its just like the poco change in highsec, but guess what people like goons and rvb pretty much took every single one. So how does that help the masses? it doesn't... same here.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7061
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:41:12 -
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tiberiusric wrote:The problem with these things is that quite simply you have a few factions that bubble the hell out of the place and just camp the station and that to me as a pvper is boring and lame, plus it spoils everything its about. its just like the poco change in highsec, but guess what people like goons and rvb pretty much took every single one. So how does that help the masses? it doesn't... same here.
Complains it doesnt help the masses
Complains it only helps the big entities
Complains big entities own the majority of resource
Oxymorons everywhere
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Paul Panala
Black Research Industries
195
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:35:32 -
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There I do agree with the OP is that the Devs stated that they want Thera to be a trading hub. You can't expect it to ever work as expected if there are constantly bubbles around the NPC stations. If they had simply said that they want it to be a busier than normal WH system, then sure, keep it as it is. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9134
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:59:52 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
Oxymorons everywhere
Damn it Ramona, i keep having to fix yer posts!!!!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7078
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:03:19 -
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Paul Panala wrote:There I do agree with the OP is that the Devs stated that they want Thera to be a trading hub. You can't expect it to ever work as expected if there are constantly bubbles around the NPC stations. If they had simply said that they want it to be a busier than normal WH system, then sure, keep it as it is.
Can you provide a citation, please?
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