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Joseph Penton Devils Flight 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:27:56 - [1] - Quote Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!
Carmen Electra The Scope Gallente Federation 14482	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:29:03 - [2] - Quote I so want in on this thread Bacon makes us stronger
Mina Sebiestar Mactabilis Simplex Cursus 778	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:29:13 - [3] - Quote .
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 772	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:31:11 - [4] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! It is a wormhole system after all. If it was nullsec it wouldn't be any different. Welcome to EVE.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 6937	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:31:23 - [5] - Quote Quote: Thera not pve friendly! I'm not even going to touch that one. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Altirius Saldiaro Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 197	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:33:02 - [6] - Quote Wow, who'd of thought Thera would be the place to go for PvE?
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 102935	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:33:38 - [7] - Quote PVP in a PVP game.... Whad'ya Know! Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Eldwinn SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel 156	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:35:58 - [8] - Quote I think I lost a couple IQ points after reading this thread.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 24835	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:37:34 - [9] - Quote What? CCP sets up an obvious pvp arena and you're surprised that it's going to be hard to conduct pve there? Thera is not for you. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari VENDO - wardec in effect. Check evemail and use TS when online.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7361	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:45:29 - [10] - Quote Hahaha! if only ~~everyone~~ someone had foreseen this happening. Don't worry, let them get locking the stations down out of their systems. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 920	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:49:45 - [11] - Quote Give it 2 weeks. Things will cool down significantly. That being said, I'm not sure there is much PvE to be had in Thera. Go looking for one of the other 100 new systems if you want PvE. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Orlacc 662	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:54:17 - [12] - Quote Say it ain't so!! "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 18395	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:54:27 - [13] - Quote Show us on the devblog where CCP said Thera would be a PvE system.... Go carebear in renter space or in highsec.. or a regular wormhole for that matter.. Wait... why am I responding to this thread? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Paranoid Loyd 2955	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:59:16 - [14] - Quote "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 866	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:00:10 - [15] - Quote I actually went flying around there at ~0300 yesterday and found none of the stations bubbled. My entrance wormhole (from hisec no less) was empty, and I saw few ships and wrecks aside from a few bombers, cloakies (docking/undocking) and an abundance of rookie ships. Mind you, certainly not a PvE mecca by any means, but not quite the nightmare you described. Maybe the initial rush had calmed down somewhat by then? CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
ggodhsup internet spaceship relocation movement 18	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:01:20 - [16] - Quote 9/10 made my morning.
Syn Shi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 75	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:09:26 - [17] - Quote So who in this thread owns the troll alt who posted?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 447	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:09:44 - [18] - Quote Ok, I laughed. Loudly. At work. Vote Sabriz!
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:12:26 - [19] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Grimpak Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance. 2439	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:28:28 - [20] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! come on, this post has troll all over it. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 111	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:34:25 - [21] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! come on, this post has troll all over it. You never visted the ArcheAge forums, did you? You should give it a try, but be aware that it might hurt your brain.
Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:44:04 - [22] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Show us on the devblog where CCP said Thera would be a PvE system.... Go carebear in renter space or in highsec.. or a regular wormhole for that matter.. Wait... why am I responding to this thread? Because you were unsuccessful at avoiding it, obviously. Will I get banned for boxing!?!?! This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury
PlayerNikita Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:46:12 - [23] - Quote To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme)
PotatoOverdose Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS. 2597	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:51:00 - [24] - Quote A system with a negative security rating is not guaranteed to be safe for pve? Well, I never!
okst666 Bad Request 290	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:53:14 - [25] - Quote the two closeby stations remind me of an old unreal tournament map http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/289740_S/10-of-the-most-influential-fps-multiplayer-maps-ever.jpg [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 111	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:54:32 - [26] - Quote PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) It also makes sense to assume that people who will camp it ... ... will be roflstomped by others who don't want that. At least in a system with so many connections to "all over the place". Of course this is all irrelevant if ten
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5786	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:04:09 - [27] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! LOL. CCP always like "we don't know what players will do with new content." Then later: "Here's new content. Hey you can have dictor bubbles in it and there will be 4 stations". What did they think was going to happen? So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps". Maybe clone upgrade costs were removed just so bittervets would give it a second thought. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Tyler Nietzsche Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic 82	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:08:47 - [28] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: [What did they think was going to happen? So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps". With the new clone cost (0) it's up to you. But it makes Eve a "no risk" to "some risk" MMO. I wouldn't either. Perhaps it will find a following that enjoy the mechanics. If it gets a good market, you might use it as an arena for your hard earned ISK.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26925	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:12:46 - [29] - Quote Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5786	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:15:06 - [30] - Quote Tyler Nietzsche wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: [What did they think was going to happen? So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps". With the new clone cost (0) it's up to you. But it makes Eve a "no risk" to "some risk" MMO. I wouldn't either. Perhaps it will find a following that enjoy the mechanics. If it gets a good market, you might use it as an arena for your hard earned ISK. I've given lots of thought to just lining up a hangar full of fitted Kestrels and having at it for the lols. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
DaReaper Net 7 1429	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:16:18 - [31] - Quote So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Phil Hinken Concordiat Spaceship Samurai 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:17:11 - [32] - Quote Somehow this is the fault of the carebears.
DaReaper Net 7 1429	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:18:04 - [33] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around. But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Tyler Nietzsche Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic 82	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:18:36 - [34] - Quote DaReaper wrote: So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there. There is no counter for 900 F1 keys.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5787	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:21:14 - [35] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. Long ago I fielded the idea that we should have "deep space" in every system with withering police depending on how far out you go. So in the first three to 1 to 3 AU you got space police, afterwards it takes longer to respond so at 5AU or more it can be up to a minute. Past 20 AU there is no protection and it's like nullsec. It would have been good for Thera - some levels of protection at least to put a damper on the people with nothing to do but death camp everything all day, but in the same system allow for a free for all a usual. I know I know.... "let the players do it". But this game suffers from YEARS of advertising the importance of ISK and attracting min-maxers to whom any and all activities that do not generate ISK are avoided like the plague. We'd need around 4 years of an ad campaign that attracts players who don't care about that sort of thing and then you'll have the idealists who see this situation as an opportunity for fun and not some incursion into their 50 gajillion ISK per day obsession. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
DaReaper Net 7 1429	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:21:20 - [36] - Quote Tyler Nietzsche wrote: DaReaper wrote: So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there. There is no counter for 900 F1 keys. 901 is the counter to 900 f1 keys ;) OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26925	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:21:30 - [37] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around. But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that. tbh, default warpable holes (from inside and outside) might be the minimum necessary thing to make Thera happen. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
DaReaper Net 7 1429	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:27:17 - [38] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: DaReaper wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around. But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that. tbh, default warpable holes (from inside and outside) might be the minimum necessary to make Thera happen. I will disagree. There are plenty of wh corps and even some others that might enjoy thera as a free port. if you could have a semi chance at defense. but most people will go home like in all wormholes, plenty of space but not everyone wants to be there. shrugs OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26925	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:29:55 - [39] - Quote that's nowhere near full-scale participation in Thera. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Orlacc 663	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:30:34 - [40] - Quote PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) It was stated long ago that Thera would be akin to a "Wild West/Mos Eisley" town. That's the lore. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2882	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:34:11 - [41] - Quote Let's say that due to myself being used to living in a wormhole system on my player main for a prolonged period of time now, I haven't found very many things or obstructions during cruising there that were unavoidable and as such deadly. It's a beautiful system! Although I wouldn't go mining there right now mind you..... ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4039	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:41:50 - [42] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It's also connected to everything, meaning that you can base a 50 interceptor wolfpack there, find holes to renter space, and burn nullbears to the ground, only to jump back into Thera when defense fleets mobilize. Then you go to the other side of nullsec and do it again. ISD Ezwal wrote: Let's say that due to myself being used to living in a wormhole system on my player main for a prolonged period of time now, I haven't found very many things or obstructions during cruising there that were unavoidable and as such deadly. It's a beautiful system! Although I wouldn't go mining there right now mind you..... I look forward to the day when mining in Thera is safer than mining in highsec. Also OP - I'm going to be polite and assume you were only pretending to be stupid, so 8/8 for trolling. Gr8 b8 m8. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Tarpedo Incursionista 1430	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:43:44 - [43] - Quote If There was designed to be huge PvP arena - why limit amount entrances to the system? Shouldn't they be presented in every star system and don't require scanner to find?
Sugar Smacks State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:45:25 - [44] - Quote I can't figure out how pve and the station are linked together. Do the rats spawn at the station? With so many wormholes and 2 stations one would think the obvious choice would be to leave.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3515	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:46:27 - [45] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: Let's say that due to myself being used to living in a wormhole system on my player main for a prolonged period of time now, I haven't found very many things or obstructions during cruising there that were unavoidable and as such deadly. It's a beautiful system! Although I wouldn't go mining there right now mind you..... You can, as long as you have friends for back up. I'd rather be market pvp'ing. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Tyler Nietzsche Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic 82	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:47:16 - [46] - Quote Sugar Smacks wrote: I can't figure out how pve and the station are linked together. Do the rats spawn at the station? With so many wormholes and 2 stations one would think the obvious choice would be to leave. Thera has many resources, and 4 stations. I cannot think of a scenario where I would PvE there, but...
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1656	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:06:06 - [47] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: pvp area Le trololelelele face. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5787	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:08:00 - [48] - Quote Orlacc wrote: PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) It was stated long ago that Thera would be akin to a "Wild West/Mos Eisley" town. That's the lore. Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
45thtiger 0109 AL3XAND3R. 118	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:12:07 - [49] - Quote IBTFF lol You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good. Welcome to EvE OnLiNe
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26927	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:17:40 - [50] - Quote EVE players don't know how to not trample everything. if the stations were destructible, they'd be gone by now. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Orlacc 663	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:32:50 - [51] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Orlacc wrote: PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) It was stated long ago that Thera would be akin to a "Wild West/Mos Eisley" town. That's the lore. Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. I think the inference was "anything goes." PVP and all. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Zappity Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 1641	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:37:14 - [52] - Quote I saw a Procurer in Thera yesterday. I hope OP isn't suggesting that it was bait! Who would do such a thing? Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 7001	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:39:29 - [53] - Quote Not sure if trolling or if the OP actually expected to run anoms in Thera. Having put further thought into this I'm pretty sure trolling. =ƒÉÆ I am a banana. "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10799	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:40:52 - [54] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. In EVE, you aren't the "Hero", you don't get Main Character immunity. You're one of many, even among demigods. If people want a game to fluff their ego, then pretty much every other game exists for that purpose. But in EVE, you aren't special. So yes, bubbles. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 7001	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:41:15 - [55] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: I haven't found very many things or obstructions during cruising there that were unavoidable and as such deadly. One day I'll find that main and then ... ... unavoidable BANANA TIME. =ƒÉÆ I am a banana. "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
Neth'Rae The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:41:23 - [56] - Quote I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven..
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 116	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:47:56 - [57] - Quote Neth'Rae wrote: I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven.. How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ?
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10799	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:51:52 - [58] - Quote Neth'Rae wrote: I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven.. What part of the market are their ships listed under? Because last time I checked, they are considered pirates themselves. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 1815	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:59:53 - [59] - Quote thera was a pve system up until the second pilot showed up. then it became combat
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 117	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:12:06 - [60] - Quote Rowells wrote: thera was a pve system up until the second pilot showed up. then it became combat That's actually a very smart post. Sorry, thought I point that out.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5789	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:22:35 - [61] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. In EVE, you aren't the "Hero", you don't get Main Character immunity. You're one of many, even among demigods. If people want a game to fluff their ego, then pretty much every other game exists for that purpose. But in EVE, you aren't special. So yes, bubbles. Of course of course. Another avenue to point out that which was already obvious. Thank for dose of "nobody is special" agenda today. if you knew me personally you would know I'm the last person to tell that to. Now, about that completely unusable spaceport where it won't matter if you have an ego or not.... So yes, nobody will care and it'll be the parking lot from Dawn of the Dead where occasionally some living flesh shows up, gets swarmed, eaten, and then the zombies flip back over to their other monitor to continue on with whatever other game they were playing. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Orlacc 663	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:27:50 - [62] - Quote Well someone moved the topic into talking about themselves. Nice. I am sure Thera will slow down after a spell. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Algathas Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad. 49	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:31:40 - [63] - Quote Welcome to NPC nullsec.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10799	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:32:57 - [64] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Now, about that completely unusable spaceport where it won't matter if you have an ego or not.... So yes, nobody will care and it'll be the parking lot from Dawn of the Dead where occasionally some living flesh shows up, gets swarmed, eaten, and then the zombies flip back over to their other monitor to continue on with whatever other game they were playing. You're acting like it's supposed to be Provi or some other NRDS idiocy. It's not. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1210	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:42:52 - [65] - Quote ... and here I was thinking because freighters were the one exception to the cap ship ban it would be like a new home to Red Frog and stuff ...
TigerXtrm Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 964	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:45:55 - [66] - Quote Decided to take a peek in an Interceptor earlier today and the bloodbath didn't surprise me all that much. Once things cool down it could be an interesting place to live or visit whenever you get a connection. Though, I have to say, as long as interdiction spheres are allowed there I don't think it's ever going to be the 'Jita without CONCORD' CCP has envisioned. Because any trader with half a braincell is going to stay far far away from that place. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Gallowmere Rorschach Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 860	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:50:12 - [67] - Quote Raise your hand if you didn't see this coming. I'll wait. There...the guy who raised his hand. Someone take him out back and commissar him.
Razefummel Unknown Dimension Alpha Volley Union 940	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:51:47 - [68] - Quote At last the OP and his friends didn-¦t payed for the new AL-Clones at all... so where is the Problem here?. 21 Tage Trial: Buddyinvite Difficile est saturam non scribere.
Serene Repose 1726	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:56:24 - [69] - Quote It's not PvE friendly, but it's Thera-PEUTIC! BWAA HAAAA....ahem. Gankers are sociopaths who would rather use their time-in-place advantage to jump and one-shot a noob than fight straight-up someone who poses a challenge to them. If you need to call a ganker a "person," have at it. He is what he is.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5789	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:11:33 - [70] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Now, about that completely unusable spaceport where it won't matter if you have an ego or not.... So yes, nobody will care and it'll be the parking lot from Dawn of the Dead where occasionally some living flesh shows up, gets swarmed, eaten, and then the zombies flip back over to their other monitor to continue on with whatever other game they were playing. You're acting like it's supposed to be Provi or some other NRDS idiocy. It's not. NRDS never crossed my mind on the subject of Thera. Thanks for bringing that up though. I cannot see where it could work for a large system with so many ways in and out. So we can discard that. All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped. So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Remiel Pollard Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds 6171	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:15:18 - [71] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: ...EVE is just another pvp area! FTFY GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 1289	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:50:58 - [72] - Quote In other news... fedos escaped from their holding cells in Jita and are now running rampant throughout the 4-4 station, eating anything and everything, but mostly favoring Tritanium. This will make tritanium prices skyrocket, so according to Jim E. Jones, now is the time to sell your stockpiles before the fedos can devour them. Now to Dee Dee Packalotte for the weather...
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10800	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:52:44 - [73] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped. So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see. I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 28747	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:59:41 - [74] - Quote thera's great , everybody's gone , null is empty now , being flying around null , hardly seen anyone when i do they are looking for WH's best patch in a long time i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5789	Posted - 2014.12.11 03:15:03 - [75] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped. So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see. I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you? Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Gogela The Conference Elite CODE. 3286	Posted - 2014.12.11 04:10:08 - [76] - Quote Carmen Electra wrote: I so want in on this thread Me too. Nice avatar, btw. I knew this was going to happen. CCP needs to put some insanely powerful SoE guns on those stations. If you can't undock there's no draw to Thera. "Stations" as a concept a reduced to being theoretical. Everything that would make me want to live there is negated by perma camps. They WILL be perma camps. It's just not a tenable lifestyle. Sorry CCP. You f***ed up one little thing on this one. Now lets see if they fix it.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 366	Posted - 2014.12.11 04:56:57 - [77] - Quote I would imagine that Thera is probably the single worst place in Eve to try PvE. I'm not even sure it's possible to survive an attempt to PvE there, and certainly running +EV is out of the question.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 933	Posted - 2014.12.11 05:15:39 - [78] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: In other news... fedos escaped from their holding cells in Jita and are now running rampant throughout the 4-4 station, eating anything and everything, but mostly favoring Tritanium. This will make tritanium prices skyrocket, so according to Jim E. Jones, now is the time to sell your stockpiles before the fedos can devour them. Now to Dee Dee Packalotte for the weather... I've got a bottle of whiskey and a new mission. Off to Jita with me for the sweet sweet fedo lovins. I will save the tritanium with the badtouches!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 14152	Posted - 2014.12.11 05:23:54 - [79] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. You aren't Luke, you are Greedo. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 05:39:11 - [80] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 14152	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:00:49 - [81] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Its not lowsec either. If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 2729	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:02:31 - [82] - Quote I could point out you've done it wrong. But 4 pages of people beat me to it. Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 800	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:07:59 - [83] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Neth'Rae wrote: I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven.. How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ? I think it's "free haven of pirates", not "pirate-free haven". Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Now, about that completely unusable spaceport where it won't matter if you have an ego or not.... Well, it may be pretty useable as long as you don't stage in stations or use inties. For now, at least. We'll see what people will do next. TigerXtrm wrote: ...I don't think it's ever going to be the 'Jita without CONCORD' CCP has envisioned. Did they? baltec1 wrote: You aren't Luke, you are Greedo. Who's Luke though?
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 17576	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:18:38 - [84] - Quote There's no p-v-e in Thera but there are t-e-a-r s? That's my Fox Force 5 joke for this episode. Friendship is the best ship. Sabriz for CSM go go go
FAKE PRADA Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:39:25 - [85] - Quote cup of tears please
Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 185	Posted - 2014.12.11 07:06:26 - [86] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: There's no p-v-e in Thera but there are t-e-a-r s? That's my Fox Force 5 joke for this episode. Yellow! Also +1 for the FF5 joke!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5789	Posted - 2014.12.11 07:15:36 - [87] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Yeah sure. Star Wars: Luke, Obi Wan and the droids get trapped in a bubble and their land speeder is blown up before their clients even load the grid. The End. You aren't Luke, you are Greedo. Thank you for bringing back a memory of this. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 1362	Posted - 2014.12.11 08:06:16 - [88] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: You would think RP wise... Problem found. Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26936	Posted - 2014.12.11 08:42:22 - [89] - Quote turning out to be a bigger griefpit than jita and amarr combined. love it President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 357	Posted - 2014.12.11 08:51:06 - [90] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! Frankly, I'm shocked... [i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i] - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26936	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:01:32 - [91] - Quote this sucks I feel a change coming President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:10:04 - [92] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: this sucks I feel a change coming Bonus points for persistency. Lucky he can't lose skillpoints anymore.
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame 5843	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:11:47 - [93] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: There's no p-v-e in Thera but there are t-e-a-r s? That's my Fox Force 5 joke for this episode. googling fox force 5 now... mad? ( -í° -£-û -í°) I'm a Snaper Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Hengle Teron > v(t) = dp / dt
Signal11th 1514	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:16:22 - [94] - Quote Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.: 1: Some morons will go there to grief. 2: Some morons will go there because it's new. 3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it. Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace. Powered by reaTh Filter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of any corp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a sh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and wo
Danalee Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 1001	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:36:32 - [95] - Quote Selling insta undock's for Thera stations! 1 billion a pop (come with a free interceptor) No scam, I swear! Learn2eveUplebian D. Psychotic Monk: I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 127	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:46:10 - [96] - Quote Danalee wrote: Selling insta undock's for Thera stations! 1 billion a pop (come with a free interceptor) No scam, I swear! Learn2eveUplebian D. You missed an s there. Seriously though, this is actually a nice idea.
Danalee Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 1002	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:52:26 - [97] - Quote Sol Project wrote: You missed an s there. Seriously though, this is actually a nice idea. Fixed, thanks! And someone had another great idea, I love you guys (the good guys, not the plebians ) D. Psychotic Monk: I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
knobber Jobbler Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 490	Posted - 2014.12.11 09:55:55 - [98] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Do it yourself. Get friends, clear camps, populate station markets, profit.
Solops Crendraven Solops Inc 26	Posted - 2014.12.11 10:19:13 - [99] - Quote Ill be There! warp Disruption fields meh amateurs. Check Me Out!!! On Twitch Tv 24/7 enter link description here
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1440	Posted - 2014.12.11 10:42:11 - [100] - Quote this thread therafies me. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 131	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:13:01 - [101] - Quote Danalee wrote: Sol Project wrote: You missed an s there. Seriously though, this is actually a nice idea. Fixed, thanks! And someone had another great idea, I love you guys (the good guys, not the plebians ) D. Hahahaha no, that s is on the wrong spot.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26947	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:35:49 - [102] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Rain6637 wrote: this sucks I feel a change coming Bonus points for persistency. Lucky he can't lose skillpoints anymore. the problem is the probing barrier. there will be players without friends who fall through the cracks. Thera will become a subscription killer just for being Thera. I didn't think about it until now, that it would be the cause of attrition, but it looks like it will cut the inexperienced from the herd of EVE like a roach motel (they check in, but don't check out). Thera needs default warpable holes -or- concord police so players can take their time navigating and probing. As a C4 with a station, players will only be disappointed for going there thinking it's one thing, then discovering it's something else. Thera is technically a C12 but that's just a quaint label. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 131	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:36:19 - [103] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: this thread therafies me. Thera doctors who can help with that.
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 131	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:42:18 - [104] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Sol Project wrote: Rain6637 wrote: this sucks I feel a change coming Bonus points for persistency. Lucky he can't lose skillpoints anymore. the problem is the probing barrier. there will be players without friends who fall through the cracks. Thera will become a subscription killer just for being Thera. I didn't think about it until now, that it would be the cause of attrition, but it looks like it will cut the inexperienced from the herd of EVE like a roach motel (they check in, but don't check out). Thera needs default warpable holes -or- concord police so players can take their time navigating and probing. As a C4 with a station, players will only be disappointed for going there thinking it's one thing, then discovering it's something else. Thera is technically a C12 but that's just a quaint label. I'm partly lost on the point you are making. I understand that getting out is an issue and I'd rather not see bubbles there, no matter the type ... but I believe or hope that players will take care of overall security eventually. What I don't understand, is ... the rest regarding probing, Ctypes (never WH'd), and why anyone would expect something else than what it is. What would that be? I'm missing something here, but can't figure it out.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26947	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:51:09 - [105] - Quote It sounds like a place worth being in. The probing barrier is the scanning requirement to find the doorways to the system... that character might be an example of a player who only has one character, and no ability to even find the holes to leave Thera. There's a chance he was trying to leave through the hole he came in from, but the location was old (and the exit had moved since he entered). He could have been trying to warp to a hole that wasn't there anymore. leading players to believe it's anything besides a C4 wormhole (one that doesn't have capital ship-sized wormholes) is misleading on CCP's part. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
knobber Jobbler Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 492	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:02:43 - [106] - Quote Is it not just an NPC nullsec system with customised mechanics to block combat capitals and deployable bubbles?
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26947	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:03:18 - [107] - Quote the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with. If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 103144	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:10:05 - [108] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with. If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap. You can always set your clone to the school your character came from. No timer on that... But its still a ****** crutch for a broken system. Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9097	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:13:15 - [109] - Quote Thera (like all of EVE) is 'pve friendly' if YOU put some thought into it. PVE in Thera will consist of organized groups that can both farm AND defend themselves. Speaking for real PVE jocks in this game (who give no Fs about someone tryin to pvp us), please ignore the whiny "wahhh, people won't let me solo PVE in peace" loners who don't get what game they are playing.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26949	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:16:57 - [110] - Quote at rest, wormholes seclude themselves from the rest of EVE. If you wait just 1 day, your information is old and you have to build your bookmarks again. This alone precludes 90% of EVE (if not more) from making use of Thera. Industry and market types are also, for the most part, not the same players. They are both PVPers of sorts, but they are also [both] guilty of habitually shitting on any plate that isn't theirs. The two types working together to build a pulse for Thera is highly unlikely. There's also no reason for it. Players make the argument that it's impractical to camp all the connections in Thera. While that's likely true for one group, the reality is you only need to camp the few that connect to the types of systems that will have traffic. Especially highsec. Players aren't just mostly risk averse. There's also little to no reward in Thera. Aside from belts, but if a player puts any ISK into a Thera belt hoping to come out net positive, they're just as out of touch as CCP's player event creators. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 31	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:19:34 - [111] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Give it 2 weeks. Things will cool down significantly. That being said, I'm not sure there is much PvE to be had in Thera. Go looking for one of the other 100 new systems if you want PvE. and there goes any hope of a trade hub. lol, what a silly notion that was, to think you can have a trade hub with no concord. lol "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Aralyn Cormallen Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 610	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:24:51 - [112] - Quote I am struck by the irony that CCP were surprised that people chose to live in wormholes, and now that they've made a wormhole specifically for living in, the vast overwhelming opinion is that people wont . Gotta love EvE players.
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 31	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:25:10 - [113] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. this ... what I've been saying all over. What's so special (useful or worthwhile) about it that makes you want to stay there? It's a choke point, with unusable stations. Just like all the other choke points. And did any of them become trade points? lol. PVP wins. "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 31	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:30:13 - [114] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: EVE players don't know how to not trample everything. if the stations were destructible, they'd be gone by now. that's been done before. ;-) "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Leannor Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates. 31	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:37:41 - [115] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: this thread therafies me. we're getting to the point where we need a theasawus to find new words ... "Lykouleon wrote: STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Aralyn Cormallen Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 611	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:38:11 - [116] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with. If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap. Although I actully like the idea of Theran noobships coming with a probe launcher, I imagine that wouldn't be possible without changing whatever code currently gives us noobships (since we get the model relating to the player, not the station-type we are docked in). Although I see your concern, I believe Thera walks a dangerous tightrope of almost immediately compromising the force-projection changes. Immediately once fatigue got dropped on us you saw groups looking to wormholes as the solution to get fleets cross-galaxy, and with Thera we now have a wormhole-hub (maybe we should have called it Atlanta), that courtesy of player-ingenuity already has player channels which report its connections. If you introduce rules to make Thera safer or its wormholes more stable or easy-to-find, you might be inviting jump fatigue getting dropped on wormholers too
Naraish Adarn Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 117	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:47:25 - [117] - Quote not sure if op is troll bait or just a tad dense
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10803	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:55:47 - [118] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
David Therman University of Caille Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:04:30 - [119] - Quote Am I the only one who's somewhat surprised that this thread is still going?
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1393	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:12:40 - [120] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: at rest, wormholes seclude themselves from the rest of EVE. If you wait just 1 day, your information is old and you have to build your bookmarks again. This alone precludes 90% of EVE (if not more) from making use of Thera. Industry and market types are also, for the most part, not the same players. They are both PVPers of sorts, but they are also [both] guilty of habitually shitting on any plate that isn't theirs. The two types working together to build a pulse for Thera is highly unlikely. There's also no reason for it. Players make the argument that it's impractical to camp all the connections in Thera. While that's likely true for one group, the reality is you only need to camp the few that connect to the types of systems that will have traffic. Especially highsec. Players aren't just mostly risk averse. There's also little to no reward in Thera. Aside from belts, but if a player puts any ISK into a Thera belt hoping to come out net positive, they're just as out of touch as CCP's player event creators. It has pretty much all the mechanics to limit the creation of a large market and only one to facilitate it and that's not really a very good one.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9099	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:20:52 - [121] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5475	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:25:15 - [122] - Quote Here comes the tinfoil: Goons diss Thera to get everybody out so they can have it for themselves. EXPOSED ! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:26:20 - [123] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with. If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap. This is a really smart idea! If you ... as it's yours ... make a thread in F&I, I will happily support it.
Square PI Hedion University Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:37:51 - [124] - Quote It would be enough when there are NPC sold civ. probe Launcher on the stations.
Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 409	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:40:00 - [125] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: I Love Boobies wrote: In other news... fedos escaped from their holding cells in Jita and are now running rampant throughout the 4-4 station, eating anything and everything, but mostly favoring Tritanium. This will make tritanium prices skyrocket, so according to Jim E. Jones, now is the time to sell your stockpiles before the fedos can devour them. Now to Dee Dee Packalotte for the weather... I've got a bottle of whiskey and a new mission. Off to Jita with me for the sweet sweet fedo lovins. I will save the tritanium with the badtouches! I am so disturbed by this I don't even know where to begin. I'm going to go take a shower in acid. Will I get banned for boxing!?!?! This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury
RomeStar dskjdahsk 545	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:07:13 - [126] - Quote Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:12:52 - [127] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around. But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that. There would need to be a strong incentive for a player to do so. Like, if a corp could own the station and profit off the broker fees than they would have a reason to make it a "safe" place to use as a market.
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:14:53 - [128] - Quote RomeStar wrote: Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO. Seriou sly, go read the ArcheAge forums. Posts like these might as well be legitimate.
Idriane Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:15:23 - [129] - Quote So with the stations being so close can rvb plz move in and do this system up right?
Senyu Takashi NGC research and development Imperium of Rising Luna 6	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:20:02 - [130] - Quote TL:DR - Dead content where few people will stay for a few weeks before the systems population will go down to the occasional station campers and a sightseeing Rookie Ship. All of this thanks to the idiocy called "non-targeted interdicion" being allowed near stations and gates/wormholes.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 400	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:21:13 - [131] - Quote What happened?
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1442	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:21:51 - [132] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Eugene Kerner wrote: this thread therafies me. Thera doctors who can help with that. Can you recomend any therapists? TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 457	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:23:03 - [133] - Quote I am Therad up of all these Therads. Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:32:26 - [134] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Tear Jar wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Its not lowsec either. If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself. The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead. I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:33:55 - [135] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.: 1: Some morons will go there to grief. 2: Some morons will go there because it's new. 3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it. Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace. That won't last long though. I suspect after this all dies down Thera will be a place for PvPers(interceptors in particular) to base out of for roams into low/null sec.
Senyu Takashi NGC research and development Imperium of Rising Luna 6	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:37:17 - [136] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: baltec1 wrote: Tear Jar wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Its not lowsec either. If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself. The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead. I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players. Exactly. Why should I bother with clearing the station camps? Its a regular WH system with stations and few more statics. Nothing more. And if I want to participate in a lore somehow, I can do that in a Rookie Ship or in a cov ops+nullified T3.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:42:32 - [137] - Quote knobber Jobbler wrote: Tear Jar wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Do it yourself. Get friends, clear camps, populate station markets, profit. I don't think its profitable enough. I mean, why would people go to Thera for their market instead of one of the high sec trade hubs? If they are using wormholes to travel already they can easily find a high sec static and go to one of the existing trade hubs much more safely. And having players who try to guard the station is more likely to attract pirates than it is to scare them off. If pirates know they can go to system X and get fights they are going to constantly go to system X. The system will be useful as a base for roaming PvP gangs, but it won't be Mos Eisley. Pirates are still better off having their alt shop in Jita for them(which is much closer to Mos Eisley, some protection, but people still get killed in Jita and its full of scammers and pirates).
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 194	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:49:27 - [138] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Thera (like all of EVE) is 'pve friendly' if YOU put some thought into it. PVE in Thera will consist of organized groups that can both farm AND defend themselves. Speaking for real PVE jocks in this game (who give no Fs about someone tryin to pvp us), please ignore the whiny "wahhh, people won't let me solo PVE in peace" loners who don't get what game they are playing. Why would you PvE in Thera over a regular wormhole or a high sec ice belt other than to prove you can? Its clearly worse isk/hr when you factor in all the time and manpower you have to put into fighting off PvPers.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5804	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:45:48 - [139] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol. Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun. It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years. I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1665	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:59:06 - [140] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! "No one said they would have guns!". Another treasured moment to go in the archives, of people that missed the inter-office memo sent out last week about EvE containing pew pew and so forth. F Would you like to know more?
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 110	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:31:35 - [141] - Quote Guize whats pve? And how do i pve??? EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Kalishka Ashkulf Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:42:18 - [142] - Quote I still havn't poked my head in Thera. I think I know what I'm doing tonight, shoppiiiing! Why, thank you, Thing!
Ione Hunt Storm Solutions 11	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:45:18 - [143] - Quote Welcome to EVE! You aren't safe anywhere Especially in 0.0, WH and Thera (no security means...NO SECURITY) you have to take risk and can't expect to PVE "safely". Don't like it? Don't go to those places...
Baneken Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light 420	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:04:18 - [144] - Quote It was quite a mayhem in the first day but after that there wasn't happening much, give it few weeks to cool down.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 512	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:11:12 - [145] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol. Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun. It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years. I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB. Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything? Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts... Ella's Snack bar
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9101	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:15:46 - [146] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything? Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts... rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 512	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:20:04 - [147] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything? Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts... rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! Ella's Snack bar
Bolimbe Shiga's Playground Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:21:07 - [148] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! Sounds like you don't have much experience outside of high-sec space. Flay an interceptor to mitigate the effectiveness of the bubbles or find a hole and set a safe spot in a location that you can warp in around the bubbles. Maybe fly a cov-ops ship to a location 100Km or 70Km away from the station and scout it before you attempt to dock. You should probably also get into a null sec or WH corp that trains capsuleers to work in dangerous environments and learn some PvP skills while you are at it. Maybe you are not made for PvP and should stick to high-sec space and continue your existence as a carebear. I am not a PvP expert by any means but I took the time to think things through. Now I regularly live in low/null or WH space and chill at safe spots with my d-scan up. All it takes is some thought and experience. To learn it you must do it and in the process you will lose some ships but in the end it is worth it. Even if you don't like PvP you should get out of high sec, you can become an expert at hiding from the big bad gank man while doing missions or exploration. The pay off in ISK may be mitigated by the loss of ships at first but the real reward is the fun and excitement that you receive. The threat of a loss or the rush of a kill can make this game exciting beyond any other game I have played. The only other game that has provided me with an equivalent rush was Doom back in the day. When those demons jumped out I would get a huge adrenalin rush and almost **** myself!
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9101	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:33:04 - [149] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail? Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain. Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 512	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:51:15 - [150] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail? Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain. Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise. Well again your ignorance is splendid to behold, it was while NCDOT as a whole were stationed around Stain. And at least I tried to do something instead of act like you who runs around the forums telling everyone how wonderful you are. Ella's Snack bar
Ione Hunt Storm Solutions 11	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:11:13 - [151] - Quote Bit OT, but funny to see Burn Eden still **** off people I have fond memories of them from waaaaaay back during Xetic Federation (and later ASCN) times. You could scream at the noobs, they'd still light up their MWDs trying to make the 150km to those BE Ravens.
Takoma Panala State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:16:48 - [152] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: "No one said they would have guns!". Another treasured moment to go in the archives, of people that missed the inter-office memo sent out last week about EvE containing pew pew and so forth. F What, that Memo did not reach me. EVE contains pew-pew? I thought it was about hauling Amarrian Por... I mean Holy Scriptures through Highsec.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10804	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:44:25 - [153] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts... This character's previous corp lived in a wormhole. And furthermore, one does not get many killmails while flying logi. (knock knock CCP, fix that and fix logi) But as for screwing around in Thera... are you seriously trying to say that unless I go and kill some numbskull in a heavy interdictor, that therefore they must be invincible? I mean, are you even reading what you type before you hit send? I don't exactly need to have a interdictor killmail on my own personal board to be able to tell you that they are not, in fact, invincible. Or that bubbles are not anywhere near as scary as carebears think they are. But Herzog keeps talking out of the sides of his mouth about Luke Skywalker or some other nonsense. And I'd like to know exactly what he means. Sarcasm is not wit, however much modern society may have muddled the two. So quit jacking each other off about how delightfully non conformist you think you are and just say it, one of you two. What's wrong with Thera? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:51:06 - [154] - Quote While proper multidimensional sarcasm really needs actual wit ... ... I really wonder wtf you people are actually argueing about. I feel like I'm totally out of the loop. I'm not even curious to see Thera, for some weird reason. I do wonder how it looks like a bit and I also wonder about how many people are there, but in the end the real question for me is ... ... what do?
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 515	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:53:55 - [155] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts... This character's previous corp lived in a wormhole. And furthermore, one does not get many killmails while flying logi. (knock knock CCP, fix that and fix logi) But as for screwing around in Thera... are you seriously trying to say that unless I go and kill some numbskull in a heavy interdictor, that therefore they must be invincible? I mean, are you even reading what you type before you hit send? I don't exactly need to have a interdictor killmail on my own personal board to be able to tell you that they are not, in fact, invincible. Or that bubbles are not anywhere near as scary as carebears think they are. But Herzog keeps talking out of the sides of his mouth about Luke Skywalker or some other nonsense. And I'd like to know exactly what he means. Sarcasm is not wit, however much modern society may have muddled the two. So quit jacking each other off about how delightfully non conformist you think you are and just say it, one of you two. What's wrong with Thera? This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it? As for Thera I will be heading there at some point, but I will wait for things to settle down, maybe I will see Jenn telling everybody in local that they should be doing level 4's in hisec, but what the hell Ella's Snack bar
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10804	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:59:15 - [156] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it? This is why you are a bit odd... You can't read. I did not say that. Jenn did. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5804	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:01:25 - [157] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours. Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track. Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again? No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol. Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun. It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years. I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB. Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything? Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts... LOL don't give Kaarus ideas one goatse is enough in this world. Yeah I just make the simple point about dictor bubbles and that which can be death camped will be and "the usual suspects" come in with the usual stuff. Though with Kaarus I suspect there is a religious motive involved, or a lack thereof leaving a void that needed to be filled by the Church of HTFU. Remarkably we have something like Forum PVP by Proxy going on here. I have yet to actually go to Thera - heck I just updated the client this morning using "free" bandwidth I don't normally have and have not yet even played - and the people arguing with me are not having anything to do personally with the matter either. We might as well be arguing new Star Trek versus old. PVP was getting too expensive for me as I didn't like having clones costing more than my ship. Now that CCP has tossed us bittervets a bone here, more players will be feeling the wrath of my Kestrel. That this change happens with the introduction of Thunderdome.... uh... Thera is probably not mere coincidence. When I get around to it I'll see how Thera really is. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 516	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:24:23 - [158] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Dracvlad wrote: This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it? This is why you are a bit odd... You can't read. I did not say that. Jenn did. Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped. So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see. I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you? Seriously... Thera looks damn good and I will be heading there when things calm down to have a look, I have an added challenge to kill a HIC bubbling one of the stations, but I will do that in my own good time. Ella's Snack bar
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 232	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:25:47 - [159] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! Working as intended then... A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve... Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10804	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:37:11 - [160] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Dracvlad wrote: This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it? This is why you are a bit odd... You can't read. I did not say that. Jenn did. Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped. So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see. I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you? Seriously... Thera looks damn good and I will be heading there when things calm down to have a look, I have an added challenge to kill a HIC bubbling one of the stations, but I will do that in my own good time. So... I fail to see where I said that anyone was "fail at EVE" like you claimed, I was merely trying to figure out what in the Burning Hells Herzog was going on about. Just go ahead and take back your previous bullshit statement, everyone has seen it already, you aren't wriggling out from under it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Karl Jerr Herzack Unit 63	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:37:19 - [161] - Quote Adapt and don't cry, that's the (fun in-game) way.
Mroe Bree Conoco. Caldari Armed Forces. 6	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:41:31 - [162] - Quote You know what needs to be a thing? 20,000 alts in unfit noob ships buzzing into Thera to allahu akhbar themselves on any potential kill worth more than 0 isk. Now THAT would be Thunderdome!
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 453	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:20:02 - [163] - Quote Mroe Bree wrote: You know what needs to be a thing? 20,000 alts in unfit noob ships buzzing into Thera to allahu akhbar themselves on any potential kill worth more than 0 isk. Now THAT would be Thunderdome! Never not swarm in rookie ships Vote Sabriz!
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4970	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:22:41 - [164] - Quote Wait. OP jumped into a WH, knowing it follows 0.0 rules and then still is complaining he cant PvE bear in it. No ** sherlock. It is a freaking WH. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club**
Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:31:53 - [165] - Quote As you all know Thera is the Scope holy land We will happily provide the appropriate security for you for a weekly instalment of only a billion isk, bond of the rental being three weeks in advance...and a muffin sooo hungry Simply put make your own security and kill any muthalika that wants to stop you ...this is eve Npc overlord Vapor Owns Thera so please leave immediantly The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:32:03 - [166] - Quote As you all know Thera is the Scope holy land We will happily provide the appropriate security for you for a weekly instalment of only a billion isk, bond of the rental being three weeks in advance...and a muffin sooo hungry Simply put make your own security and kill any muthalika that wants to stop you ...this is eve Npc overlord Vapor Owns Thera so please leave immediantly The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:33:17 - [167] - Quote PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) My thoughts exactly. Of course, the regular rabble can't seem to comprehend the ridiculousness of it and somehow feels obligated to come in here and bash the OP out of their inability to understand good gameplay, as per usual. Clowns need to get a life. Pity the fools.
Paranoid Loyd 2973	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:39:50 - [168] - Quote NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Pity the fools. Mr T? Is that you? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:41:06 - [169] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Pity the fools. Mr T? Is that you? like clockwork.
Paranoid Loyd 2973	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:41:56 - [170] - Quote Is that a yes or a no? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5805	Posted - 2014.12.12 05:25:58 - [171] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything? Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it. Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts... rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! Heck that was at least interesting. I still got an alt out there kicking it up and they who bested me have not logged in having "won" in a long time. They "won" the systems, I guess, but as they were merely there to make their game the prevention of others from playing it, even then I knew their days were numbered. You can only play the game of not playing the game and preventing others from playing it for so long until boredom does you in. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5805	Posted - 2014.12.12 05:27:34 - [172] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail? Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain. Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise. I was there and he was not profiteering. Troll harder. Oh and log in once in a while at least. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5805	Posted - 2014.12.12 05:29:41 - [173] - Quote NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) My thoughts exactly. Of course, the regular rabble can't seem to comprehend the ridiculousness of it and somehow feels obligated to come in here and bash the OP out of their inability to understand good gameplay, as per usual. Clowns live on here arguing with everyone for a reason and should really get a life rather than dedicate their time to handing out their nonsensical hatred like its Halloween candy. Pity the fools. Next time you go to those military dentists again, get more pain killers. You are much more pleasant and reasonable on them. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Trajan Unknown Running with Dogs Nerfed Alliance Go Away 0	Posted - 2014.12.12 08:59:30 - [174] - Quote The analysts are stronK in this one - once again. Take your opportunity or lean back and let things settle - this was always the best thing to do with every change in every video game since they started patching dem things :D
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 111	Posted - 2014.12.13 07:05:17 - [175] - Quote I got it!!! Pve is "player versus everyone" standard EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Don Purple 1076	Posted - 2014.12.13 08:12:48 - [176] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: I am just here to snuggle.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27075	Posted - 2014.12.13 08:30:23 - [177] - Quote ** it. Don Purple wrote: Sol Project wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote:** President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Arune Malieka Steel Society 6	Posted - 2014.12.13 11:50:13 - [178] - Quote NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: PlayerNikita wrote: To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases. (this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme) My thoughts exactly. Of course, the regular rabble can't seem to comprehend the ridiculousness of it and somehow feels obligated to come in here and bash the OP out of their inability to understand good gameplay, as per usual. Clowns live on here arguing with everyone for a reason and should really get a life rather than dedicate their time to handing out their nonsensical hatred like its Halloween candy. Pity the fools. Not sure what you would put in there if not a station. What would you allow POS to be put in there? Last I checked its sort of shattered. Make it so there was nothing in there but huge ass sites? You can trust those bubbles would still be there. The real issue is how easily they can be bubbled, which if CCP didn't allow to be done on purpose, is a greivous oversight of immense scale. Lets face it though, even without interdictor bubbles, alpha fleets would be there to **** everything up no matter what.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27166	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:59:11 - [179] - Quote bumping because GD should have a Thera thread on page one, otherwise it would mean Thera is a joke. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Sahriah BloodStone Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum 47	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:12:27 - [180] - Quote This is an outrage. Now where am i supposed to take my orca fleet!?!
Alicia Aishai Orange Crescent 11	Posted - 2014.12.15 12:21:55 - [181] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.: 1: Some morons will go there to grief. 2: Some morons will go there because it's new. 3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it. Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace. +1 I actually struggle to see what Thera is good for. - Obviously not PVE. - PVP looks pretty stupid there; seems like there are lot better places to PVP. - Some people said "base for a raiding fleet" but give how risky this is to use stations and that most WH exit are in high with only few in 0.0. It doesn't look so practical. So my guess is that people are going because it's new (reason #2 above) but in the end, it will be a few people there staying for epeen (reason #1). Which is good because a few less epeen-minded people in the rest of EVE helps us all!
Dracones Tarsis Inc 28	Posted - 2014.12.15 15:22:21 - [182] - Quote Don't like how Thera currently works? Form a Thera Police corp, recruit in members, fly around and pop people camping stations. Work out arrangements with freighter corps to provide escort for their goods for a nice fee. Ally with the larger WH corps that they'll provide backup as needed while in system but doing so provides them with a safe haven of trade and clones. Watch it all blow up from time to time as no-fire agreements get broken or nullsec alliances swarm the place and lock it down for a time until they get bored and leave.
Signal11th 1523	Posted - 2014.12.15 15:24:10 - [183] - Quote Dracones wrote: Don't like how Thera currently works? Form a Thera Police corp, recruit in members, fly around and pop people camping stations. Work out arrangements with freighter corps to provide escort for their goods for a nice fee. Ally with the larger WH corps that they'll provide backup as needed while in system but doing so provides them with a safe haven of trade and clones. Watch it all blow up from time to time as no-fire agreements get broken or nullsec alliances swarm the place and lock it down for a time until they get bored and leave. lol or just ignore Thera and not bother will all the work. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Levina Windstar Mekalon Industry 40	Posted - 2014.12.15 15:28:04 - [184] - Quote Ah EVE Online! Where a single troll post can produce over 10 pages of comments 9/10!!
Signal11th 1523	Posted - 2014.12.15 15:29:24 - [185] - Quote Levina Windstar wrote: Ah EVE Online! Where a single troll post can produce over 10 pages of comments 9/10!! That's not EVE online doing that it's being bored at work which is causing it. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
knobber Jobbler Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 492	Posted - 2014.12.15 16:13:01 - [186] - Quote I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden.
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2014.12.15 16:46:50 - [187] - Quote knobber Jobbler wrote: I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP.
Levina Windstar Mekalon Industry 40	Posted - 2014.12.15 17:00:13 - [188] - Quote Sol Project wrote: knobber Jobbler wrote: I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP. PvP = Thera
Lupe Meza Hedion University Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2014.12.15 18:21:26 - [189] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.: 1: Some morons will go there to grief. 2: Some morons will go there because it's new. 3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it. Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace. I totally agree with this. EVE could use more "grease trap" systems like this.
Xuixien The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 1930	Posted - 2014.12.15 19:56:59 - [190] - Quote lol [u]Epic Space Cat[/u]
Alejandro Rebenga 25	Posted - 2014.12.15 20:41:40 - [191] - Quote Isn't Thera the testbed for the afk-cloaky-slash-remove-local nullsec fix?
Gogela The Conference Elite CODE. 3286	Posted - 2014.12.16 17:19:49 - [192] - Quote Alejandro Rebenga wrote: Isn't Thera the testbed for the afk-cloaky-slash-remove-local nullsec fix? ...* It hadn't occurred to me that Thera could be a guinea pig testing system. You might be on to something here.
Hevymetal Eve Defence Force Cult of War 406	Posted - 2014.12.16 19:43:03 - [193] - Quote You are correct sir it is not. However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1220	Posted - 2014.12.16 23:04:26 - [194] - Quote Hevymetal wrote: You are correct sir it is not. However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate. spawn some vanguards and HQs and they will come.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5825	Posted - 2014.12.16 23:13:20 - [195] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Hevymetal wrote: You are correct sir it is not. However I am willing to bet at some point some moron will inevitably bring a 20 billion isk faction fitted battleship in for missions. Only to be bombed into oblivion before even getting a chance to enter warp from the entrance gate. spawn some vanguards and HQs and they will come. Sansha incursion Seriously - incursion fleets you cannot BLOPS/Cap drop and NPC AI that welcomes new targets... Hmmm (DANGER: RP/LORE post incoming) I wonder why Sansha has not tried to take over Thera? You'd think they would see the value of this target? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 280	Posted - 2014.12.16 23:37:54 - [196] - Quote Levina Windstar wrote: Sol Project wrote: knobber Jobbler wrote: I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP. PvP = Thera Thera = Market. The forums are just a distraction to keep people from pushing items there. In reality, the best idea would be to stockpile as much as you can there now ... ... before the major onslaught of people who want to cash in on this and prices tank. The ones earning most are those providing the locals with ships and modules right now. And the best part about the new industry ... ... is that everyone can build anywhere and a cost naturally balances local industry. Assuming it's balanced here, that is.
Crimson Draufgange Extreme Overkill Inc. The Bastard Cartel 16	Posted - 2014.12.17 01:42:34 - [197] - Quote Another thread full of carebear tears! Yes! I love it! But seriously, you thought Thera was going to be PvE friendly? HAHAHAHA! Crimson Draufgange, CEO of Extreme Overkill Inc.
Badden Powell Future Dynamics 16	Posted - 2014.12.17 03:47:59 - [198] - Quote "Thera not pve friendly!" WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT!?!?!?!? As someone who can easily be classified as a carebear, I figured Thera would be a hot spot for "A shot Z because of 12" shenanigans. I know what i just said makes no sense... it doesn't have to. THIS IS EvE! You have how many tens of thousands of players on the same server at any given time from all over the world. Any one of them could on a whim, try something new, come across someone doing pve in Thera, and decide to start shooting, simply because they might never have shot at another player before and want to know what it's like. More than likely someone is coming out of this encounter minus their ship and fitting at MINIMUM. Welcome to the sandbox, where someone who never stomped down a sandcastle just stomped yours and decided they liked stomping sand castles. Do you cry and scream? Do you build a better sand castle? Or maybe you put on a disguise and ask them to teach you the art of "Castle Stomping"... ^^^THIS IS EvE.
Badden Powell Future Dynamics 16	Posted - 2014.12.17 04:23:51 - [199] - Quote Rowells wrote: thera was a pve system up until the second pilot showed up. then it became combat ROFLMFAO! You sir, have hit the nail on the head.
Badden Powell Future Dynamics 16	Posted - 2014.12.17 04:29:28 - [200] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: ... and here I was thinking because freighters were the one exception to the cap ship ban it would be like a new home to Red Frog and stuff ... if anything, they will crunch numbers and do math and if it makes sense, open a thera - J space - K space division. personally, i think that's a tall order.
Darko Atlante Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2014.12.17 13:42:36 - [201] - Quote http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5287649+_f7b91f4bb6c51f483af2b1f9182537ad.png
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9123	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:22:28 - [202] - Quote It goes to show that some people will use any excuse imaginable to hide their personal failures. To date I've lost exactly 2 cheap PVE firgates in Thera, mean while i've made some nice pocket change using nothing but the aforementioned cheap frigs (this post brought to you by a sub paid for with a plex that itself was paid for using nothing but Thera generated income). Just because you can't figure out how to pve in Thera doesn't make Thera 'unfriendly' to PVE.
tiberiusric Comply Or Die Retribution. 191	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:26:00 - [203] - Quote Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7059	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:28:14 - [204] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen. In what way is it stupid? Why do you think this is not what they expected? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9123	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:29:30 - [205] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen. They expected people to figure it out (and some of us already have). There are these new inventions called "nullified ships" that ignore bubbles making getting in to Thera easy as pie. once in you can set a clone their and the market is sufficient to supply you with cheap pve ships. You can check any public killboard for my own Thera ships. CCP shouldn't have to play the game for you.
tiberiusric Comply Or Die Retribution. 191	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:34:56 - [206] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: tiberiusric wrote: Joseph Penton wrote: Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen. They expected people to figure it out (and some of us already have). There are these new inventions called "nullified ships" that ignore bubbles making getting in to Thera easy as pie. once in you can set a clone their and the market is sufficient to supply you with cheap pve ships. You can check any public killboard for my own Thera ships. CCP shouldn't have to play the game for you. let me advise you sonny after playing for over 10 years, ccp certainly don't play the game for me. The problem with these things is that quite simply you have a few factions that bubble the hell out of the place and just camp the station and that to me as a pvper is boring and lame, plus it spoils everything its about. its just like the poco change in highsec, but guess what people like goons and rvb pretty much took every single one. So how does that help the masses? it doesn't... same here.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7061	Posted - 2014.12.17 14:41:12 - [207] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: The problem with these things is that quite simply you have a few factions that bubble the hell out of the place and just camp the station and that to me as a pvper is boring and lame, plus it spoils everything its about. its just like the poco change in highsec, but guess what people like goons and rvb pretty much took every single one. So how does that help the masses? it doesn't... same here. Complains it doesnt help the masses Complains it only helps the big entities Complains big entities own the majority of resource Oxymorons everywhere "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Paul Panala Black Research Industries 195	Posted - 2014.12.17 16:35:32 - [208] - Quote There I do agree with the OP is that the Devs stated that they want Thera to be a trading hub. You can't expect it to ever work as expected if there are constantly bubbles around the NPC stations. If they had simply said that they want it to be a busier than normal WH system, then sure, keep it as it is.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9134	Posted - 2014.12.17 16:59:52 - [209] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: ~~Oxy~~morons everywhere Damn it Ramona, i keep having to fix yer posts!!!!
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7078	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:03:19 - [210] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: There I do agree with the OP is that the Devs stated that they want Thera to be a trading hub. You can't expect it to ever work as expected if there are constantly bubbles around the NPC stations. If they had simply said that they want it to be a busier than normal WH system, then sure, keep it as it is. Can you provide a citation, please? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Orlacc 670	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:06:54 - [211] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Paul Panala wrote: There I do agree with the OP is that the Devs stated that they want Thera to be a trading hub. You can't expect it to ever work as expected if there are constantly bubbles around the NPC stations. If they had simply said that they want it to be a busier than normal WH system, then sure, keep it as it is. Can you provide a citation, please? This. P.S. I was in there the other night and it was me and six others. No bubs on Stations at all. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25042	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:11:40 - [212] - Quote tbh Thera so far seems kinda...pointless. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9135	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:14:08 - [213] - Quote Anslo wrote: tbh Thera so far seems kinda...pointless. It's a gold mine. People just don't realize it yet. Like I said, i've only died twice in there so far and I've pulled some good isk out of it.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25050	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:16:20 - [214] - Quote Effort to get GOOOOOOOOLD out of Thera versus other wh's, or nul sites, or Level 5's, imo, just seems meh. I dunno, its value to me was lore, a way to solve a mystery. So far, some of us with that interest have been disappointed to say the least. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5836	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:20:32 - [215] - Quote Anslo wrote: tbh Thera so far seems kinda...pointless. Content is driven by player action. Thus sitting around a bubble farm killing everything that moves for no particular reason is pointless. The content becomes pointless. Some people's game is wrecking the game. This is why I always like Herr Wilkus (who brought ganking to a science) - he was dead honest about his intentions but everybody he targeted had a chance to adapt and not quit. Since there is no reason to bubble Thera up and kill everything, there is no reason to be there either. So the end result, as I don my Captain Obvious rank insignia here, is that it's pointless. The moment I read that dictor bubbles would be allowed I predicted this. The "kill everything for no reason" class of player is often the most overlooked (and they complain about it loudly) but the players who simply shrug and move on have perfectly adapted to that play style. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25050	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:22:50 - [216] - Quote If bubbles were left out, then I think Thera might have been more interesting, especially for new PVPers. Imagine, a swarm of newbies, dunking each other. Suddenly, a wild Vet appears anticipating easy prey, ONLY TO GET SWARMED BY THE NEWBIES. WATCH AS THE COLONY OVERWHELMS ITS PREY TO FEAST ON ITS LOOT. THE WILD VET IS HELPLESS TO GET AWAY AS THE 2BIL ISK GANK LOKI IS QUICKLY OVERCOME, AND DESTROYED. CRIKEY [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5532	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:25:43 - [217] - Quote If you want to do industry, there are 100k units compressed veldspar and 50k units compressed scordite in the SSO station. Really, there isn't a shortage in minerals at the moment. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25050	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:27:04 - [218] - Quote Ah but how are they priced relative to k-space? What's the markup on ~convenience~ ? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9136	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:29:22 - [219] - Quote Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill. The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot. Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25050	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:32:25 - [220] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill. Neither are dockable stations but hey there they are. Thera isn't your normal nul/WH friend. It's 3spooky5me. Quote: The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot. I, too, always fly fit to kill a kitey bubbler and his friends. And I, too, bring the perfect fleet to counter what may be on the other side of a gate and/or hole in every situation. Quote: Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it. Oi vey. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9136	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:35:18 - [221] - Quote Anslo wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill. Neither are dockable stations but hey there they are. Thera isn't your normal nul/WH friend. It's 3spooky5me. Quote: The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot. I, too, always fly fit to kill a kitey bubbler and his friends. And I, too, bring the perfect fleet to counter what may be on the other side of a gate and/or hole in every situation. Quote: Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it. Oi vey. What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. It's fine that you don't like Thera, but I think it's fine, I'm kaing isk out of it and having fun while not dying too much (at least till my luck runs out).
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25053	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:38:18 - [222] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. No, I'm bringing up points I feel make Thera a bit potato that if addressed somehow, someway, might make it more attractive to people than hurr durr killerrythang nerds. Eve has casuals too. Would be nice if they got something out of it. Also you're Quote:* It's fine that you don't like Thera, but I think it's fine, I'm kaing isk out of it and having fun while not dying too much (at least till my luck runs out). How much did you make in how much time anyway? I haven't seen any calculated comparisons to other sources so I'm kinda curious. If it's just basic sleeper loot then it can't be that much right? Unless you found one of those Central Archiver Cerebrums. Then uh....welp. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9136	Posted - 2014.12.17 18:08:27 - [223] - Quote Anslo wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. No, I'm bringing up points I feel make Thera a bit potato that if addressed somehow, someway, might make it more attractive to people than hurr durr killerrythang nerds. Eve has casuals too. Would be nice if they got something out of it. That's so "think of the children". I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'. Also you're Quote:* How much did you make in how much time anyway? I haven't seen any calculated comparisons to other sources so I'm kinda curious. If it's just basic sleeper loot then it can't be that much right? Unless you found one of those Central Archiver Cerebrums. Then uh....welp. I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet. Again, if you have to dumb down Thera to make it more attractive when there are already people in Thera making it work, that's misguided. You don't need a bubble-less Thera, you need less risk averse players.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 25084	Posted - 2014.12.17 18:11:16 - [224] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'. MY SIDES Quote: I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet. OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5837	Posted - 2014.12.17 18:41:30 - [225] - Quote Anslo wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'. MY SIDES Quote: I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet. OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller. Now now. Be nice. There are a lot of players who, if they did not make downward assumptions of other players and their intentions, would have NOTHING to base their esteem on. So be nice and let them declare themselves better than everybody else over their own perceptions and play styles lest they log out and start keying new cars or calling the police on their neighbors for every little thing. CCP means "Crowd Control Productions" after all. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Alicia Aishai Orange Crescent 12	Posted - 2014.12.22 04:37:26 - [226] - Quote Anslo wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'. MY SIDES Quote: I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet. OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller. I am a bit with Anslo on this one. I see wild claims from Jenn aSide about making a lot of PVE isk in Thera but not a shred of evidence supporting it. Understand that everyone has its own money making secret but it would be more convincing if at least we were told generally how so much ISK are made with a "cheap PVE frig"? Rating -> doubtful in cheap PVE frig and how doing is it in Thera different from any other WH? Exploring -> maybe but then same question than above. If it is just doing the same as normal WH then why do it in Thera with more hostiles around while there are tons of WH empty 90% of the time. Mining -> unlikely...
Waltaratzor Waltmart 21	Posted - 2014.12.22 04:43:38 - [227] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Levina Windstar wrote: Sol Project wrote: knobber Jobbler wrote: I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden. Market = PvP. PvP = Thera Thera = Market. The forums are just a distraction to keep people from pushing items there. In reality, the best idea would be to stockpile as much as you can there now ... ... before the major onslaught of people who want to cash in on this and prices tank. The ones earning most are those providing the locals with ships and modules right now. And the best part about the new industry ... ... is that everyone can build anywhere and a cost naturally balances local industry. Assuming it's balanced here, that is. Who is it a market for? Most of its statics are high sec statics and anyone in high sec is better off going to one of the real trade hubs. Even if you did find a way into it in null or WH space, you can just take one of the high sec statics to get to a real trade hub.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9182	Posted - 2014.12.22 06:22:52 - [228] - Quote Alicia Aishai wrote: I am a bit with Anslo on this one. I see wild claims from Jenn aSide about making a lot of PVE isk in Thera but not a shred of evidence supporting it. Understand that everyone has its own money making secret but it would be more convincing if at least we were told generally how so much ISK are made with a "cheap PVE frig"? I said I lost 2 frigs, I didn't say I used those frigs (Probes) exclusivley to make isk, now did I? You can go to any public kill board and see my (now 3) deaths in Thera (2 probes, 1 Drake). Thera has class 3/4 level content, not too hard for an organized fleet to clear anomalies and fight off the unorganized nubs who try to kill you. It's all fun and games till freaking CFC shows up. The whole point is to demonstrate that some of us (actually, many of us, most don't post on the forums) aren't crippled by fear and risk aversion in a video game where nothing real (except time) can be lost. Have you even tried the plentiful anoms and sigs in Thera before you've come to the conclusions you have? Sure it's easier elsewhere, the point here is to show that it's possible even against opposition Quote: Rating -> doubtful in cheap PVE frig and how doing is it in Thera different from any other WH? Exploring -> maybe but then same question than above. If it is just doing the same as normal WH then why do it in Thera with more hostiles around while there are tons of WH empty 90% of the time. Mining -> unlikely... Why do it in Thera? Because this is a video game and some of us aren't scared to damn death of a challenge (or imaginary loss)?
Neth'Rae The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:50:19 - [229] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Neth'Rae wrote: I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven.. How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ? Not pirate-free haven, Pirate free-haven.. Like ruled by pirates and stuff..
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 798	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:53:22 - [230] - Quote Neth'Rae wrote: Sol Project wrote: Neth'Rae wrote: I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve. Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven.. How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ? Not pirate-free haven, Pirate free-haven.. Like ruled by pirates and stuff.. Ah. Ahhhh.... my bad! Language. :) "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
Signal11th 1580	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:23:02 - [231] - Quote I have to agree with Jenn on this one, Thera this or Thera that.... It doesn't even matter..Thera isn't there for you to like it it's just there. If you don't like it well then tough too bad go somewhere else in the game, CCP doesn't owe you anything in regards to this system, it's there and that's all there is to it. You make of it like the rest of the game allows you to do. I've been there didn't think much of it and am now back to my usual stuff. I don't need CCP to spoon feed me stuff like in other games and tbh I get alarmed everytime the game gets altered just because it seems the vast majority of players either seem to lazy or stupid to figure stuff out. Why on earth would you expcet to enter a wormhole system and be allowed to rat without any hassle from anyone else? You can't in any other wormhole system unless you are prepared. Personally as I've mentioned before I'm happy Thera is there because it attracts egits like a moth to a flame and thats egits I don't have to deal with so it's a thumbs up from me! God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9199	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:31:19 - [232] - Quote Signal11th wrote: I have to agree with Jenn on this one, Thera this or Thera that.... It doesn't even matter..Thera isn't there for you to like it it's just there. If you don't like it well then tough too bad go somewhere else in the game, CCP doesn't owe you anything in regards to this system, it's there and that's all there is to it. You make of it like the rest of the game allows you to do. The problem is that so people are so self-centered that they think that CCP exists to please THEM (and them alone). So when CCP introduces something and they end up not liking it, instead of just going and playing somewhere they do like, they *** about it and try to get CCP to modify it to fit them. It happened with Incursions. I remember on dude on thos forum who damn near jumped through his screen because you can't solo incursion sites and that's wrong because why should he have to play with other people in an MMO lol. Some still do the same with null sec (I can't conquer a system solo or with my 10 man corp therefore null is broken). Not saying that everyone who has an opinion about Thera is like that....but most are like that. Quote: I've been there didn't think much of it and am now back to my usual stuff. I don't need CCP to spoon feed me stuff like in other games and tbh I get alarmed everytime the game gets altered just because it seems the vast majority of players either seem to lazy or stupid to figure stuff out. Why on earth would you expcet to enter a wormhole system and be allowed to rat without any hassle from anyone else?** You can't in any other wormhole system unless you are prepared. Personally as I've mentioned before I'm happy Thera is there because it attracts egits like a moth to a flame and thats egits I don't have to deal with so it's a thumbs up from me! People expect to be left alone because that's what they want and somehow they live in a world where what they want actually matters lol. I'd like to visit that world someday, i just can't find it because I live in the real world lol.
Velicitia Arma Artificer 2646	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:12:46 - [233] - Quote So, I've been gone a while ... isn't "PvE content" just "Player vs. Everyone"? Sounds like Thera's right on the mark then ... One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5668	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:27:49 - [234] - Quote It's perfectly fine if you don't forget to activate your ECCM. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics

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