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CCP Navigator
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Posted - 2011.11.29 19:56:00 -
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It is currently not possible to toggle between the new font and the old one. While we appreciate that this is something a lot of people are asking for, it simply cannot be done in the current font rendering system.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:50:00 -
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Vaaron Remar wrote:I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050).  The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!: Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big. If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore. Hope there will be some fix soon 
There's an option in the overview settings to use small font 
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:57:00 -
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Salpun wrote:E Wan wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Vaaron Remar wrote:I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!: Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big. If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore. Hope there will be some fix soon There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Is there such an option for all UI windows? Not yet but might be added later. keep asking for it 
Nope, just added for the overview because as that fine man said, it's one of the most important window in the game and some people display more columns than others there 
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP t0rfifrans
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:31:00 -
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Hey all
Obviously there are divided opinions on the new font, it being in front of everyone the whole time and a big part of the overall EVE experience. When designing the new font, there were two major paths which we had to choose between. Make it legible, and improve accessibility or make it sci-fi and futuristic, risking usability for asthetics. We chose to go down the usability path.
Now from what we can see, there are very heated opinions on the topic. We did a little quasi-scientific analysis of the forums chatter. There were 1220 posts on the topic at the time of counting, 960 unique characters posting ( with the top 50 posting 31% of the posts ). We counted 6% objecting the new font, 49% somewhat neutral and 45% writing in a positive manner about it.
Looking at that date, we determine than while many people miss the old font and want the new one printed in books in order to be burned Farenheit 451 style, the majority of those writing on the topic like it and are enjoying the improved usability.
Also, the UI scaling is a very separate feature than the font, it was just lucky that we managed to get them both into Crucible. The font and the scaling had been developed by very different people at separate ends of the studio on very different schedules. Being able to launch both of then in Crucible made us pretty happy in terms of providing increased usability, which is something EVE sorely needs improved and we are committed to work on ad infinitum.
Finally, don't pick on Punkturis for implementing the new font or the UI scaling! She did a great job on both and I think EVE is a better product as a result of it! |
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CCP t0rfifrans
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:47:00 -
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Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
The only real "fix" at this point would be to introduce fully switchable font typeface with at least a handful of different fonts that players could freely choose (with at least the ability to specify UI font and chat box font separately. Possibly also separate font for the overview).
In the short term, that's not that easy or cheap. The font has to be licensed and then adjusted to work within the client. That's expensive and time consuming.
Also, just be clear, we are totally aware that some people don't like it, and that's their opinion and we respect that. When it comes to something like a typeface, its there are no moral absolutes or right or wrong. What we're saying is that overall, we and the majority of people providing feedback on it feel that it improves usability. During testing and first implementation, we had pretty much exactly the same discussion and split opinions within the larger dev team, btw. |
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