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Oona Molotov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.12 08:24:30 -
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Hey everyone, I've been gone for 18 months... Need some guidance.
I've got a character (account) that I want to reactivate who's in nullsec. He's got a bunch of stuff down there, but he's now in a general NPC corp, and once I leave the station I'm not gonna be able dock again (if I remember this right)- not to mention I'm not gonna be able to get out of there without hitting a bubble and getting blown to tiny bits. Can anyone recommend a freighter service that travels through null? Any other recommendations? |
Alastair Ormand
Running With Scissors.
Apocalypse Now.
93
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Posted - 2014.12.12 08:26:43 -
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Try selling all assets on the local market. Or contacting the locals to see if they will KOS (more than likely they will even if they say they wont)
Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Serene Repose
1742
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Posted - 2014.12.12 08:35:24 -
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I think this is my favorite recurring situation. I thought it was "my launcher sucks,"
but this one has now overcome that.
I think the conventional wisdom on this is to contact support through a ticket
and see what kind of help they can offer you.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1503
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Posted - 2014.12.12 08:36:24 -
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Fire sale what you cannot fit in the ship you want to leave in then ask nicely a GM if you can be moved.
^I'm not totally sure about the above but it's mentioned so many times on these forums that there might be some truth to it.
Cannot hurt I guess. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1503
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Posted - 2014.12.12 08:36:42 -
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double post... |
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:29:43 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Fire sale what you cannot fit in the ship you want to leave in then ask nicely a GM if you can be moved.
^I'm not totally sure about the above but it's mentioned so many times on these forums that there might be some truth to it.
Cannot hurt I guess.
Thats sisi,
the op just need to use his brains and sell everything off in 1 go, with a nice discount. that wasnt that hard, wasnt it |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1503
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:40:26 -
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Trin Javidan wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Fire sale what you cannot fit in the ship you want to leave in then ask nicely a GM if you can be moved.
^I'm not totally sure about the above but it's mentioned so many times on these forums that there might be some truth to it.
Cannot hurt I guess. Thats sisi, the op just need to use his brains and sell everything off in 1 go, with a nice discount. that wasnt that hard, wasnt it
I wasn't talking about sisi. 
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4538
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:50:06 -
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As far as I know, if you reactivated your account and found yourself in null, CCP will move 1 ship + it's contents to high sec. Everything else you will need to sell.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
231
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:59:39 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:[quote=Trin Javidan]
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked.
wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that?
CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it!
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
921
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:00:29 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:As far as I know, if you reactivated your account and found yourself in null, CCP will move 1 ship + it's contents to high sec. Everything else you will need to sell.
Isn-¦t it the closest lo-sec one gets moved to?
But anyway, yes, in case of a longer absence from the game, CCP is supposed to move a single ship and its contents. Whatever cannot be put into its cargohold has to remain where it is (or sold, of course).
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
279
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:04:07 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:[quote=Trin Javidan]
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that? CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it!
Yeah CCP helping people that want to return to eve after a long absence is definatly a tragedy!!! How on earth can they do this?!!1111 |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4538
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:06:47 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that? CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it! It's not like they move anyone who just fancies giving up nullsec, they move one ship for old players who have returned and found themselves sitting in the middle of hostile space with their stuff. Sure, they could just say HTFU, but then that wouldn't really be a good way of keeping that player.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1836
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:07:31 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:[quote=Trin Javidan]
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that? CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it! Yeah CCP helping people that want to return to eve after a long absence is definatly a tragedy!!! How on earth can they do this?!!1111
But cold harsh universe! =( |
Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
231
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:11:11 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:[quote=Trin Javidan]
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that? CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it! Yeah CCP helping people that want to return to eve after a long absence is definatly a tragedy!!! How on earth can they do this?!!1111
He flew out there in the first place.. EVE is about consequences for your actions. I have a lot of stuff in null myself, so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
And why does it make it worse to come back to eve if hes stuff is in null.. Now he have a damned good goal to keep him playing, and that is to get hes stuff out.
PS! There is more ways to get stuff out... and even make it fun while doing it.
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
280
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:17:04 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote: so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
No. I'm just saying you are stupid as ****. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
12
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:19:01 -
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As others have suggested, sell your stuff. Depending on the stations setup neutral haulers might not be allowed to dock either and to the best of my knowledge e.g. black frog stopped offering hauling services to SOV null altogether.
And in case that character doesn't have any jump clones installed outside of the area you want to leave, as far as i know you can switch your medical clone's location to your corp's HQ remotely once a year or so. In the situation you described this might come in handy. |
Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
231
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:22:16 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote: so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
No. I'm just saying you are stupid as ****. Nothing more, nothing less.
hehe.. 
I am uncle to a 5yo, she can discuss in a more mature way than you Ka'Narlist 
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Yim Sei
Watchers of Tartarus
162
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:26:30 -
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What the Hell is this?
Have you all gone mad?
Has the impending season of goodwill addled your primal eve brains?
A request like this and not one of you has said 'contract me your stuffz and I will get it back to you (snigger)' or 'Load up all your expensive stuffz, meet me at sun and will escort you'.
I am disapoint.
Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
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Hendrick Kion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.12.12 13:03:14 -
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If you contract me all your stuff I'll move it to high sec for a small fee.  |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7333
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Posted - 2014.12.12 14:40:53 -
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Its a trap!
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1396
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Posted - 2014.12.12 15:19:51 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Ka'Narlist wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote: so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
No. I'm just saying you are stupid as ****. Nothing more, nothing less. hehe.. I am uncle to a 5yo, she can discuss in a more mature way than you Ka'Narlist
That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can? |
Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
232
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Posted - 2014.12.12 15:46:47 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can?
I think you may have misread what i tried to point out. It was not a suggestion at all, i tried to visualize in a other way how dumb the whole idea of CCP returning stuff is. It can easily be exploited to some extent, and i generally don't like the idea at all.
He brought it out there, he should get it back himself (imo).
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Oona Molotov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.12.12 16:14:44 -
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Great responses!
I expected tons of trolls asking me contract them my stuff to "help" me. What I got was helpful info, interesting counterpoints, and a good laugh or two. You guys are awesome! Best gaming community ever. Thanks:
Alastair Ormand
Serene Repose
Pak Narhoo
Trin Javidan
Lucas Kell
Lucy Oreless
Nerath Naaris
Ka'Narlist
Kiandoshia
Violet Hurst
Yim Sei
Hendrick Kion
Bagrat Skalski
Frostys Virpio |
Qapla Orion
Biohazard Systems Tracking and Recon Division
11
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:04:20 -
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Since it hasn't already come up there is the possibility of using wormholes to escape with your stuff. It requires a bit more work and waiting for the right time, not to mention most likely more dangerous right now with Thera opening and all the blood-thirsty lunatics and their drunk redneck brother/dad will be out looking to score easy kills.
If you're in need of a scammer scanner I happen to know a good one... |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:15:17 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:As far as I know, if you reactivated your account and found yourself in null, CCP will move 1 ship + it's contents to high sec. Everything else you will need to sell.
This at best |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4977
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:17:26 -
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Oona Molotov wrote:Hey everyone, I've been gone for 18 months... Need some guidance.
I've got a character (account) that I want to reactivate who's in nullsec. He's got a bunch of stuff down there, but he's now in a general NPC corp, and once I leave the station I'm not gonna be able dock again (if I remember this right)- not to mention I'm not gonna be able to get out of there without hitting a bubble and getting blown to tiny bits. Can anyone recommend a freighter service that travels through null? Any other recommendations?
You have a couple of options:
1. As you have been gone for more then 6 months, You can petition CCP and they will move your character, your current active ship and any cargo in that ship to a "safe location".
2. Contact the owner of the station, see if they can haul it for you.
3. Use public contract.
4. Join the owner or someone friendly to the owner and use that to get yourself out of null-sec.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4977
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:23:37 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:[quote=Trin Javidan]
It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.
But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked. wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that? CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it!
Wow.
We have a new leader in the list of either "ignorant or stupid people" list
Get that sand out of your private parts.
You do know that it's only for someone who has been unsubbed for more then 6 months and that is returning to EVE.
It is so that someone might returns to EVE, as opposed to your "idea" of let them rot. I can tell you, people won't return if they are up to the impossible because they took a break from EVE.
Unlike you, some people do have a RL and thus might need a break every once in a while.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4977
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:25:53 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:
He flew out there in the first place.. EVE is about consequences for your actions. I have a lot of stuff in null myself, so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
You could.
But CCP does do some research first, so they will just deny it (if you are lucky, they won't punish you for abusing the petition system)
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4978
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:29:41 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:
That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can?
I think you may have misread what i tried to point out. It was not a suggestion at all, i tried to visualize in a other way how dumb the whole idea of CCP returning stuff is. It can easily be exploited to some extent, and i generally don't like the idea at all. He brought it out there, he should get it back himself (imo).
First, luckily the opinion of retards never mattered in the world that often.
And it can be exploited, luckily it's not something CCP automatically does. They do some background to see if you truely unsubbed (and not just 1 account, but all your accounts) for at least 6 months.
If they spot that it's just an alt account, while you kept active on your main, their answer is quick and simple....a big fat no (friend of mine tried that with one of his alts he forgot about and was locked in the Dronelands).
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
232
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Posted - 2014.12.12 17:57:09 -
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You seem so angry 
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Miko Valentine
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
13
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:24:10 -
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look how close you are to GE-8 and join BRAVE ? |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
623
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:46:35 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:You seem so angry
Folks round here react badly to bad trolling and/or ******** remarks (it's GD, we expect quality trolling) |
Dustpuppy
Rox Inc
43
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Posted - 2014.12.15 14:16:12 -
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What I did was:
I waited some time until the owner of the station changed. And woohoooo, just 3 years later I am about to fly there and bring out my shiny drone alloys I left behind in 2011. |
Meyr
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
377
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Posted - 2014.12.15 15:30:10 -
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I've never used them, but try asking if Black Frog has a way of moving stuff from your station.
Public courier contracts are also a possibility, but you will probably have to offer a very high fee in order to generate interest - I offered 10% of the collateral as the fee, which worked pretty well. If you must move a long distance, you may want to add in a bit more for jump fuel.
Marketing your stuff may sound like a good idea, but you must either price it far below market value, or sit and wait, adjusting prices, until it's all sold before moving.
Good luck! |
Seven Koskanaiken
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1376
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Posted - 2014.12.16 05:23:32 -
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You, or an alt, get into an alliance that's blue to the station, then get the stuff out piece by piece. Eveskunk is a good source for stamdings. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
11532
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Posted - 2014.12.16 05:41:09 -
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If you have any friends from your old corp who you trust, ask them to use the JF services available to the alliance on your behalf to get your stuff moved out.
Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."
-á-á - Abrazzar
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Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.12.16 08:43:48 -
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Contact the new locals. Maybe they'll be sympathetic to your situation, especially given the length of time you were away. Another possibility along this route is that your interests might align with theirs. They may have a need for talent, and you might find enlistment preferable to moving.
Then, once safely inside, bide your time. Slowly gain their trust and climb the ladder. When the opportunity arises STRIKE THEM DOWN and then grind them under your boot-heel. Once their assets are forbidden to them, once their alliance is in tatters and their sov is lost, once they no longer have the means or the will to hinder you ... then you can move to hisec.
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Oona Molotov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.12.18 04:38:22 -
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Ok, so I've gotten some rad advice (thanks everyone!) but I haven't given an update on what has actually happened. Here's a quick update which shows why and how EVE is so rad, at times. My alt woke up and the station was full of a super cool corp who took pity on me and totally took me in. It was a serious gamble since they could've decimated me, but it paid off and I'm happily ratting away in null sec. So what's the lesson?
1. This forum rocks (thanks again for giving me options I never even considered)
2. EVE rules because ONCE IN A BLUE MOON it drops you a ray of hope that you weren't expecting, and certainly didn't earn. For the most part though, you have to work your tail off and scrape by... Kind of like life I guess.
Anyways. I'm officially done. I came to the right place.
Thanks everyone. Fly safe out there.
Sincerely,
OM |
Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:36:41 -
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Oona Molotov wrote:My alt woke up and the station was full of a super cool corp who took pity on me and totally took me in.
Step one complete. Excellent.
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Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
390
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Posted - 2014.12.18 07:22:02 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:
He flew out there in the first place.. EVE is about consequences for your actions.
True enough; however, when an entire region has been taken over by hostile forces or your alliance has given such space up voluntarily, how is that consequences of YOUR actions? Yes, flying out there is your responsibility and you need to have the consequence of getting out of there if your account is active and you can see that the station will be falling to enemy control. However, since you can not readily move your assets because you do not have knowledge of the system being taken over by an enemy...that isn't a consequence for your action. Thats just an unfortunate incident that can be rectified by a 1 time move out of hostile space. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1928
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Posted - 2014.12.18 08:36:29 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I think this is my favorite recurring situation. I thought it was "my launcher sucks,"
but this one has now overcome that.
I think the conventional wisdom on this is to contact support through a ticket
and see what kind of help they can offer you.
And CCP support cannot do anythign about it. THis is a social engineering game. PEopel need to remember aboutthis stuff before the unsub. IF they forgot, they must pay the price. They must firesale everything or just abandon everythign and restart at empire.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
For the rest hire PoH |
Recruitment
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Paul Panala
Black Research Industries
200
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:24:04 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?
Keep in mind that CCP knows who your alts are, even if they are registered on different names and email addresses. I suspect they can see when accounts frequently share an IP address. A lot of people found this out the hard way when they used mining bot alts to fund their main, figuring it wasn't a big deal if the alt got banned. Then their main ended up getting banded too, oops. |
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