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GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:25:47 - [1] - Quote Zifrian wrote: Ultimately who cares though? Play how you want. It's your money. Nuff said Btw what the foolish think their Hardcore PvPer's forget is without Miners they would all be flying around in noob ships as it's the miners that are at the top without them there is no ammo other than from NPC and they don't sell that much. same goes for ships without miners the best they can hope for is a cruiser, it's you and the people like you that make Eve Online possible they just hate miners and Haulers as they are some of the richest people in Eve few people can say they made a trillion from PVP only and never mined hauled or built. Fact is I started my main back in 2004 Since sold as I wanked his skills lol but back then every mother FKER mined we used to have a fleet of 12+ apoc;s with 10 harvesters ( before the drone nerf Domi's could use 15 or was it 18 drones ) and 8 miner 2's each striping belts faster than barges do now so if anyone tells you your a carebear or any other ** ask them one simple question. did they see your mate uncloaked behind them.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:57:00 - [2] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: few people can say they made a trillion from PVP only I don't think anyone has ever said that Of course, if you played since 2004 you would know that PvP is nothing but a profitless isk sink. no I should hope not , my point is most people on both sides pvp and pve are new and don't know what eve was like when a LVL 4 mission was a Corp event lol Miner and PvP Hauling Building just plain market trader I hear little moaning from either side coming from the older players. Hate to say this but Eve is cruel to the new player get over it or get out. we had it worse we trained skills that are no longer in game ok we got SP back but still damn I had learning V and Advanced learning V. mining a gate they were the days watching pods pop as the flew through them. I just hate people that call them self PvPers and hunt the defenseless. but that's just me I used to find the hardest kid in a new school and kick his ass or make sure he would think twice before trying again
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:11:57 - [3] - Quote Sol Project wrote: [quote=Kestral Anneto][quote=Sol Project]I hope that cleared it up for you. :) well your wrong and if you want to find me This is where I afk mine
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:26:13 - [4] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: La Rynx wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: La Rynx wrote: Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous... "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... "Gf" is a simple gesture that means "no hard feelings". If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. Simple etiquette, really. I'm curious why you can't seem to understand that. no point in trying to explain if he doesn't know by now he never will. a little respect goes along way
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:49:49 - [5] - Quote Quote: Thanks for proving my point completely. You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:03:22 - [6] - Quote Sol Project wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: Quote: Thanks for proving my point completely. You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black I, unlike you, am always honest. When something pisses me off, I tell it. I don't "gf" when there was no "gf". I understand what PvP means. I don't talk about how "PvPers" shoot "defenseless people" and a few posts later pretend that "respect" should be given after losing. This would include losing to a suicide gank as well, you know? Being killed as "defenseless target" would demand a "gf" as well! You are a hypocrite. A wannabe good person, not realising that actual good people don't pretend ** and certainly don't ignore when they are wrong about facts and rather stupidly stick to their own irrational beliefs! And post with your main, coward! blowing a miner out the sky and saying GF is bollocks as there is no fight I don't hunt miners never have never saw the point i rather lose a good fight than win a ** one so get your facts right
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:09:05 - [7] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: La Rynx wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. What nonsense, in that case one lost and one is the loser. No need to give a good fight. It comes all back to respect. And your lack of respect for basic manners is self evident I seems the way of things these days respect is frowned upon as if it's a sign of weakness. sad to think these people believe this to be true in real life as well
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:11:01 - [8] - Quote admiral root wrote: La Rynx wrote: You may insist and stomp with your feet now! Why would we lower ourselves to your level? there's no point in arguing with them they wont listen or learn
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:12:55 - [9] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: And your lack of respect for basic manners is self evident I seems the way of things these days respect is frowned upon as if it's a sign of weakness. sad to think these people believe this to be true in real life as well I think if you hung around with some adults you may find things are different from how you perceive them to be. And who are "these people"? wasn't pointed finger at you my kids have kids and yes adults do but then again I have seen a few that call them self adults act worse
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:24:27 - [10] - Quote La Rynx wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: blowing a miner out the sky and saying GF is bollocks as there is no fight So you agree with me. GhostOfDoom wrote: I don't hunt miners never have never saw the point i rather lose a good fight than win a ** one so get your facts right Then your posts where unclear. Just to say it again. I am not against ganking. But i am against something what one might call "aggresive tear whoring". Targeting the people behind the monitor not the in game alts. It seems that is OK for ppl like Black Pedro, but if they get real life threads, they want to play innocent victims. Thats childish behavior, denying the possiible consequences of their own actions. Are they young children? Toddlers? Or educated adult hypocrites? admiral root wrote: La Rynx wrote:** You may insist and stomp with your feet now! Why would we lower ourselves to your level? Why indeed? Anyway, wrong direction, you would have to rise. I am not begging for a "gf". yes I agree with you attacking someone that can't defend them self is cowardly and saying GF for that is just bull I'll have to re- read what I and clear it up later A good Fight is one that is a challenge if a miner challenges you and you blow them out of the sky then fair enough there fault but but GF for a good fight is a sign of respect On Doom Lord Alpha Foxtrot used to roam nul sec we lost ships we gained ship and respect was shown until you didn't show it back. attacking a miner in nul sec is fair game as no one is safe there but that's because it nul sec the rules don't apply. saying that most of the time the random noob that made it into nul sec to mine would be told to leave or left to the belt rats anyway
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:33:14 - [11] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Pedro... sorry, no. Please dont be such a hypocrite. People deserve honesty, not manners. People deserve to be treated as their characters, not adressed as the players. They are playing a game. And -10 would be a badge of honour if yoj people wojldn't ruin the profession by hiding in station all the time and finding targets with alts. You stknk of hypocrjsy right now. WTF are you talking about your -0.01 i got worse than that for parking in from of a jump gate damn you Space wardens -10 of not agreeing or disagreeing with badge of honour but with a -10 if there in a station in anything but 0.1 - nul sec there dead on leaving so unless you can go find a -10 hiding some how in a high sec or even low sec station pop them and prove yourself or better still come find me afk I will be here and watching YouTube to give you a head start.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:44:05 - [12] - Quote admiral root wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: yes I agree with you attacking someone that can't defend them self is cowardly and saying GF for that is just bull Fortunately, everyone in Eve can defend themselves, even the ones who choose not to. partly true but these so called PvP'ers that just suicide gank miners in high sec really do make my blood boil when they claim to be PvP PvP is a skill a Challenge. Miner can do more to defend them self agreed but it's the same in real life a prick with a grenade and 4 pounds of C4 not much you can do about it. and these So called suicide that pick on noobs more than anything else are coward through and through in all the years I have played MMO's I have never seen it this bad in all game it's like there too afraid to fight someone that can hit back. when I started MMO's PvP was a skill now it's a ******* joke these kids have no idea about
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:58:47 - [13] - Quote Sol Project wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: admiral root wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: yes I agree with you attacking someone that can't defend them self is cowardly and saying GF for that is just bull Fortunately, everyone in Eve can defend themselves, even the ones who choose not to. partly true but these so called PvP'ers that just suicide gank miners in high sec really do make my blood boil when they claim to be PvP PvP is a skill a Challenge. Miner can do more to defend them self agreed but it's the same in real life a prick with a grenade and 4 pounds of C4 not much you can do about it. and these So called suicide that pick on noobs more than anything else are coward through and through in all the years I have played MMO's I have never seen it this bad in all game it's like there too afraid to fight someone that can hit back. when I started MMO's PvP was a skill now it's a ******* joke these kids have no idea about You should take a long walk ... before I make your head explode. And thanks for proving the projection, too.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:38:11 - [14] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Sisohiv wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: admiral root wrote: It'd certainly make an interesting killmail, though. I have to say the only hate Ive seen in this thread is from people who assume too much about others without even knowing them. And in fairness it's a lot of forum posturing from one side, whining from the other. most of the forum warrior gankers are still hypocrites though. I have no idea what anyone has said to make you so defensive. Or how Im a hypocrit. If you can provide some citation to back that up, Ill be happy to yield to your superior position. However, I cannot agree that a Retriever is anything other than a waste of minerals. funny I was thinking about the same thing when it come to you and your friends almost all quotes are edited to point out a fact they want to see never the whole story.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:40:19 - [15] - Quote Lets have a 100% server wide Miner Strike see how long they last when there paying 200+ for 1 m3 of trit
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:45:52 - [16] - Quote Quote: funny I was thinking about the same thing when it come to you and your friends almost all quotes are edited to point out a fact they want to see never the whole story. What exactly have I left out that's so important to whatever this point you are trying to make is? And what is that point?[/quote] ok the point is your too far up your own @ss to see the point and no matter how many times your told explained and given diagrams about what the point is you will never see it because you have decided your point the only one and so it must be right.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:05:11 - [17] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: ok the point is your too far up your own @ss to see the point and no matter how many times your told explained and given diagrams about what the point is you will never see it because you have decided your point the only one and so it must be right. Seriously, I am completely confused. What is your point and how does it relate to miners being hated? point is every time someone says something he/she( toon no way of telling sex ) just keep on saying the same old crap people the plan and simple fact is this people hate miners because there easy to hate like K K K hate black people there no reason for it other than it's easy. no gain from ganking a miner that you couldn't get from doing a decent mission.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:07:41 - [18] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: and you think the miner don't have alt's to funny thing would be seeing you lot run in here and complain about being ganked that would just be funny Boy, that sure would show those pesky gankers, wouldn't it? You don't ... think that's what they actually want, do you? why quote a single line and leave the other bits out? No need to answer as we already know.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:12:58 - [19] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: Black Pedro wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: ok the point is your too far up your own @ss to see the point and no matter how many times your told explained and given diagrams about what the point is you will never see it because you have decided your point the only one and so it must be right. Seriously, I am completely confused. What is your point and how does it relate to miners being hated? point is every time someone says something he/she( toon no way of telling sex ) just keep on saying the same old crap people the plan and simple fact is this people hate miners because there easy to hate like K K K hate black people there no reason for it other than it's easy. no gain from ganking a miner that you couldn't get from doing a decent mission. And there is still no evidence of actual hate except that you say so. No matter who asks or how often you have been unable to provide any evidence to support your position. Its like the concept of a debate or discussion is lost on you. And I can think of at least one gain that a mission cannot give you. Care to guess what it is? Black Pedro (not pointed at you just pointing out yet again that the no fact no evidence **** comes out ) Evidence Proof the fact in the thread earlier you were calling people Cunts is evidence enough from you at least.
GhostOfDoom Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:24:07 - [20] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: Black Pedro wrote: GhostOfDoom wrote: ok the point is your too far up your own @ss to see the point and no matter how many times your told explained and given diagrams about what the point is you will never see it because you have decided your point the only one and so it must be right. Seriously, I am completely confused. What is your point and how does it relate to miners being hated? point is every time someone says something he/she( toon no way of telling sex ) just keep on saying the same old crap people the plan and simple fact is this people hate miners because there easy to hate like K K K hate black people there no reason for it other than it's easy. no gain from ganking a miner that you couldn't get from doing a decent mission. And there is still no evidence of actual hate except that you say so. No matter who asks or how often you have been unable to provide any evidence to support your position. Its like the concept of a debate or discussion is lost on you. And I can think of at least one gain that a mission cannot give you. Care to guess what it is? Black Pedro (not pointed at you just pointing out yet again that the no fact no evidence **** comes out ) Evidence Proof the fact in the thread earlier you were calling people Cunts is evidence enough from you at least. I did no such thing in this thread and not at miners. Would you care to quote the whole post exactly just as you demand from others? And you are going to ignore the fact I have an answer to your incorrect statement too? "no gain from ganking a miner that you couldn't get from doing a decent mission."?[/quote] answer?