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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
27051
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:03:11 -
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say it with me:
to happen, Thera needs one of these things:
massive PVE income
default warpable holes on both sides
CONCORD
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
18423
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:21:30 -
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Rain6637 wrote:say it with me:
to happen, Thera needs one of these things:
massive PVE income
default warpable holes on both sides
CONCORD
Or zero broker fees and transaction taxes.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
320
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:33:06 -
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Rain6637 wrote:say it with me:
to happen, Thera needed this thing:
Dev interaction with the userbase.
ftfy |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
27063
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:51:18 -
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also bring forth the head of a dev who thought it was a brilliant plan.
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:59:42 -
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baltec1 wrote:What did you expect from a station?
Is it really so difficult for you to think in possibilities?
I guess it is true that you do practically live on the EVE forums. 
I think to myself "who would find that worth doing?!"
OP has a point. Its lamer gamer gameplay that makes EVE a joke of a PVP game and could very harmlessly be changed in this one instance of Thera. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
27069
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:00:54 -
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just one dev. any dev will do.
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms.
Don't Tell Me The Odds
6181
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:58:54 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Well as a wormholler I had high hopes for Thera.
But it turns out it turned into the usual docking games and high-sec hole-camping [redacted word used by homophobes].
People either fight at zero on the high holes, or play docking games.
Noone even thinks of camping true w-w connections - too dangerous and scary, who knows what could be on the other side! Wimps.
I am disappointed. Thera is a null/low playground after all. True wormholes are better.
Did you know that your head is so shiny, an F-117 could pinpoint you with a laser guided bomb?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
404
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Posted - 2014.12.13 09:24:08 -
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I'm actually surprised people expected anything else from this. :D |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
1002
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Posted - 2014.12.13 09:31:24 -
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I've said it before, when they introduced the idea of Thera, and I will say it again: Thera is literally a really big NPC null system with no local and Jita tendancies.
Everyone knew from the start that it would be a cesspool of docking games and camps.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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marVLs
681
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Posted - 2014.12.13 10:49:45 -
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It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
828
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Posted - 2014.12.13 10:53:26 -
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In traditional fashion there will be nerfs of stuffs and changes to things, long after people stopped caring and don't go there anymore. |
Senyu Takashi
NGC research and development
Imperium of Rising Luna
8
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:04:21 -
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marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles
QFT |
Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Belators
Dirt Nap Squad.
132
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:10:06 -
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Anchorable bubbles are not allowed int Thera and interdiction bubbles get destroyed as the dictor docks. Also, if you've initiated warp before bubble is up, you'll land on your destination. |
Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2167
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:10:12 -
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Thera... working as intended... "something, something.... scum and villainy".
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
517
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:10:33 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:Just wait a while for all of the fuss to die down. See what the tempo is like in 3 months say...
This!
And it is a brilliant idea, it just that like normal a certain gameplay kicks in, but give it time when their attention span issues have kicked in then it will be ok.
That being said I reckon that certain alliances will be using it as a way to move sub cap fleets around the map fast and that may result in a massive arena just based on that, and I half suspect that this was what CCP expected.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
612
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:27:13 -
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marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles
I'll always maintain bubbles are awesome. They are pretty-much the only combat "terrain" we have, and the only such terrain we have the ability to place to alter the battlefield mid-fight.
Personally, I would be all for more and varied types of bubbles, or similar "anchorable aoe effects" - webbing bubbles, anchorable smartbomb units, energy neut zones, or bubble effects which mimic some of the wormhole effects within their zones. Quite frankly the sky is the limit. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:30:09 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles I'll always maintain bubbles are awesome. They are pretty-much the only combat "terrain" we have, and the only such terrain we have the ability to place to alter the battlefield mid-fight. Personally, I would be all for more and varied types of bubbles, or similar "anchorable aoe effects" - webbing bubbles, anchorable smartbomb units, energy neut zones, or bubble effects which mimic some of the wormhole effects within their zones. Quite frankly the sky is the limit.
Anchorable smartbomb units.
That's literally the best and most nullsec-breaking idea ever.
Think Rooks&Kings, but everywhere.
Everywhere!
Burn nullsec.
Literally. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
716
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:58:35 -
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marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles
Thera just needs to let in Carriers or Super Carriers, problem solved to go with the bubbles as to why the first shouldn't be able to assign something that can than warp off grid and follow the target.....Thera is freaking huge, makes for good space to hide a cap ship and warmp up the forums with super capital long threads ranting to nerf them along with off grid boosters (fighters would of been assigned to HICs, which get buffed by off grid, which already got a good hitpoint buff alone, fighters providing back up DPS, fun times ensue). All in all, was exactly what I expected and I didn't have to visit....basically lowsec, with station games, NPC landlords, no faction police or hits, bubbles locking down stations, over DPS alpha shooting undocking....nothing no, reiterated content with a fancy over glossed graphics to make it look new. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
802
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Posted - 2014.12.13 12:15:53 -
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It's no sec zone. There are stations. What else did you think could happen? |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
222
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Posted - 2014.12.13 12:18:08 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles I'll always maintain bubbles are awesome. They are pretty-much the only combat "terrain" we have, and the only such terrain we have the ability to place to alter the battlefield mid-fight. Personally, I would be all for more and varied types of bubbles, or similar "anchorable aoe effects" - webbing bubbles, anchorable smartbomb units, energy neut zones, or bubble effects which mimic some of the wormhole effects within their zones. Quite frankly the sky is the limit.
I recently joined a nullsec PVP organisation, and the way dictors are used in fleet engagements has been an astonishing revelation for me.
I seriously think dictor bubbles should be allowed in lowsec too. And +1 for more bubble variety! |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2014.12.13 12:24:01 -
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I feel like this thread explains the anagram HATER ... |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
517
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Posted - 2014.12.13 12:27:14 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:marVLs wrote:It's not Thera problem, it's all about that incredible bad/lame gameplay mechanic which is: bubbles I'll always maintain bubbles are awesome. They are pretty-much the only combat "terrain" we have, and the only such terrain we have the ability to place to alter the battlefield mid-fight. Personally, I would be all for more and varied types of bubbles, or similar "anchorable aoe effects" - webbing bubbles, anchorable smartbomb units, energy neut zones, or bubble effects which mimic some of the wormhole effects within their zones. Quite frankly the sky is the limit. I recently joined a nullsec PVP organisation, and the way dictors are used in fleet engagements has been an astonishing revelation for me. I seriously think dictor bubbles should be allowed in lowsec too. And +1 for more bubble variety!
No, low sec offers a difference based on the use of pods with very expensive implants, you would ruin the different style of combat that people get from that.
The idea of other affects is very interesting, however you have to be aware of server load, because they removed the passive resists from active modules because there had to be a check on whether they had been neuted or not to calculate the resists, now obviously the server has a check whether they are in a bubble so as to work back the ability to warp or not, but if you do other affects you might as well add back passive resists to active modules again and you should expect TiDi to kick in a lot earlier.
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Vultaras
Thera Space Industries
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:23:42 -
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Hello spaceship pilots,
First - i am not PvP'er or grinding PVE'er , more maybe just casual player with a little bit of everything. For the first time i went to Thera today , transported some goodies just for fun 
How was my first travel? I think should start with some printscreen:
Entrance To Thera Low Sec
As you see Russians hunting  After they hunted down some transport ship, i went in with my anathema and Viator . Inside Thera i landed almost on camping, missed by 20 km. Huh...adrenaline rush really was great. I was living in wormohels, was flying in 0.0 space and i am sure that Thera is and will the most dangerouse space.... and that was plan of CCP . Somebody will cry that it's hard to push transport haulers into this new shiny system, if you play alone it is really hard, must gather all your pants and **** -- but doable It would be very easy to do transport operations in team.... Thera became and will be PvP mountain , if somebody wants to fight, it takes very short time to find targets and i am happy about it. Today i had a great time in Thera and hopin to have some more.
P.S. Thank you CCP for Thera, but not for lag and bugs. |
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
117
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:29:31 -
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op. thats because the Thera is the new shiny thing atm wait month or two and its distinctly more quiet |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
3386
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:35:11 -
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Thera history, TL,DR: "You can't run away from yourself"
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Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:54:10 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
No, low sec offers a difference based on the use of pods with very expensive implants, you would ruin the different style of combat that people get from that.
"Very expensive implants" don't create any new styles of combat, they are very simple buffs to basic attributes. They are only meaningful in situations where you can utilize them combined with OGBs, against players without implants and OGBs, gaining you easy wins based merely on the massive difference in stats.
While this type of HEROPWNAGELOLSCRUB might attract certain personalities, it's not really player skill-based combat and as such not worth preserving.
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Mara Kell
Herrscher der Zeit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:08:57 -
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Well hardly a suprise isnt it? Every single space bottleneck in eve attracks the lowest of the shady characters we have ingame.
And since Thera is an artificial superbottleneck guess what happens :D
While i personally dont feel any need to visit Thera im still wondering why CCP thinks they need to create an artificial bottleneck like this just to force the generation of content. Somehow this doesnt fit into the conecpt of a sandbox game where the creation of content should be more driven by player decisions. |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:23:10 -
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It isn't any kind of bottleneck. It's a wormhole system with 9 statics + random connections.
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Mara Kell
Herrscher der Zeit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:31:29 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:It isn't any kind of bottleneck. It's a wormhole system with 9 statics + random connections.
How many stations does it have again? Just imagine what would happen if you could buy Ore BPOs at just one station. Thats why there are several things of everything in eve, so player have a choice and alternatives. And now we get a special kind of station with special stuff in a singular system, if thats not an artificial bottleneck then i dont know what. And 10 or 20 wormholes do not change that imho. |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
224
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:34:21 -
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It has 4 stations iirc
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