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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:50:00 -
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First things first, the new reskins/shaders on ships are great, aswell as some of the skyboxes.
Now, with that out of the way, the people with high end systems can run eve 10x over on high settings, in stations or in space. I would love to have the option of ultra high textures CCP!
I haven't looked at any of the ship files but I'm betting that the ships are using 512 size textures. When you zoom in close on the ship hulls, they get blurry/low rez looking.
One more thing, some of the nebula are really low quality and pixely/choppy looking, to the point where they look worse than the old sky boxes... please tell me that's getting fixed. 
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
139
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:52:00 -
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Lol we mentioned this to CCP for weeks on the test server but, eh, what can you do. |
Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:54:00 -
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So you want a classic and premium client again?
I'm game for that! |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:03:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Lol we mentioned this to CCP for weeks on the test server but, eh, what can you do.
The more things change, the more they stay the same huh...
@Shionoya Risa;
Not needed, just put the ultra high textures in the current client and make it an option for people that don't run 3-6 clients at once and like to have high rez eye candy.
atm, ship models are like 320p, while chars/avatars are like 1080p  |
Seraphim000
Deep Axion
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:58:00 -
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Agreed. Capitals look especially horrid. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:03:00 -
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I would really like this for the nebulae first more than anything else. Right now, the nebulae look really bad. It's said that the uncompressed nebulae are 2GB in total, which is seriously nothing. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
141
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:04:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:I would really like this for the nebulae first more than anything else. Right now, the nebulae look really bad. It's said that the uncompressed nebulae are 2GB in total, which is seriously nothing.
Agreed. CCP please release HD client. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
209
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:06:00 -
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2 GB is seriously anything for people who can't afford the traffic.
Why do people have to be so ignorant, egocentric and stupid ?
I'm all for a high resolution pack though,
for those who want it and don't care about the extra download.
Like ... me ! GIMME ! \:D/ |
Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:10:00 -
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Make an optional texture pack for those with sufficient hardware and bandwidth to take advantage of them. Shouldn't be a lot of work to implement, and would make the game much more shiny and future-proof. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
477
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:15:00 -
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I would love to see a high resolution option.
But I don't think they have the manpower for it. It's a fairly labor intensive project.
But what they could do is take a page from Bethesda's playbook and release the code for enthusiast modders to work on.
They'd have to put some sort of security on it to stop hacking of the client, but look at what us guys with no life have done with the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Some fantastic home made texture pack out there.
C'mon CCP. I'm chomping at the bit here. I love modding stuff and would love to have a crack at texturing some of the ships in high resolution.
See what you can do.
Mr Epeen 
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:16:00 -
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I know a lot of people that would love any High Res content they can get.
A lot of us here arent using wooden pc`s and can handle some more eye candy.
Release the High Res. data ccp!!!  |
Hazzard
Chaotic dynamics
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:45:00 -
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Would rather have moving exotic dancers for the new CC... |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:57:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:One more thing, some of the nebula are really low quality and pixely/choppy looking, to the point where they look worse than the old sky boxes... please tell me that's getting fixed.
of course it will.
just like how they fixed the blocky painted starfields everyone kept complaining about, amirite? |
Raphael Xoron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:02:00 -
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the nebulae, or rather the stars behind the nebulae look like some badly compressed jpg. I even have the impression, that the stars are sharper if I put down my glasses... |
Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:14:00 -
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Hazzard wrote:Would rather have moving exotic dancers for the new CC...
^^ this i blew 300mil is spare isk before incarna hoping that i could invite all those 300mil worth of exotic dancers into my CQ for a "party".... i entered CQ Forever Alone and sad.
CCP PLEASE turn the CQ from a "Forever Alone" into a "Me Gusta" |
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:19:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Hazzard wrote:Would rather have moving exotic dancers for the new CC... ^^ this i blew 300mil is spare isk before incarna hoping that i could invite all those 300mil worth of exotic dancers into my CQ for a "party".... i entered CQ Forever Alone and sad. CCP PLEASE turn the CQ from a "Forever Alone" into a "Me Gusta"
No!
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Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:19:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Hazzard wrote:Would rather have moving exotic dancers for the new CC... ^^ this i blew 300mil is spare isk before incarna hoping that i could invite all those 300mil worth of exotic dancers into my CQ for a "party".... i entered CQ Forever Alone and sad. CCP PLEASE turn the CQ from a "Forever Alone" into a "Me Gusta"
No! |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:23:00 -
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double double post?
double double post post?
oh yea, rap inspiration time |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:25:00 -
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Shoud make a pacth and call it GëíGêÜGëí HD and it changes your client splash page to reflect the upgraded status.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:25:00 -
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You may want to bug report which systems have crappy nebulae so they know which ones to look at.
There's like 5000 systems, I'm sure some of them got over looked. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:27:00 -
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Or they could just release the uncompressed pack and not have to worry about touching anything up. There are 68 unique backgrounds, not 5000+. |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:27:00 -
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My game does not look like the forum background, so im gonna go ahead and say they are all ugly.
Actually that's incredibly unfair of me, they aren't ugly. Just really disappointing they created a masterpiece of art and then managed to dumb it down to the point it lost all of its wow-factor. |
THXBYE
Elite War Squad
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:34:00 -
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I concur of this thread
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Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:42:00 -
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I'd love for a higher res texture pack as well. |
Katabrok First
Apukaray Security
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:16:00 -
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Count me in for a high texture pack. I didn't buy a gtx 580 to get dust... |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:48:00 -
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im not sure why the premium / classic choice did not work .
but im guessing one can not rely on people to make the proper choice . and those with the p4 3ghz, 2gb, intel graphics will try and run the premium client . and the wonder aloud , loudly why the game will not run / work.
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Kyra Felann
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 04:46:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:You may want to bug report which systems have crappy nebulae so they know which ones to look at.
There's like 5000 systems, I'm sure some of them got over looked.
Except that each region has one background only for all its systems. |
Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.30 04:53:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:
2 GB is seriously anything for people who can't afford the traffic.
Why do people have to be so ignorant, egocentric and stupid ?
Because they don't pay their own bills.
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Steveir
Hagukure
Empire Industry
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Posted - 2011.11.30 04:56:00 -
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So we all agree then, HD graphic optional download for those of us who can run it, and exotic dances with jiggle physics in the CQ (and I like the new ones btw) |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.30 04:59:00 -
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How about we WAIT on new versions until they have finished the V3 stuff.... they haven't done the capitals at all or the minnies or Amarr, minus a few hulls.... I would rather we get this ironed out and have a pinned/toggle, all the ships to V3 get the mechanics worked out and all things working properly - and get the required CPU/GPU as optimized for the client as it can be, and everything smoothed out and working... THEN... as for the frosting on the cake... would that be too much to ask the community?
*Finish one step, then move to the next*... endurance is the key to victory, not jumping around and skipping things to get to the next level* |
Steveir
Hagukure
Empire Industry
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Posted - 2011.11.30 05:42:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:How about we WAIT on new versions until they have finished the V3 stuff.... they haven't done the capitals at all or the minnies or Amarr, minus a few hulls.... I would rather we get this ironed out and have a pinned/toggle, all the ships to V3 get the mechanics worked out and all things working properly - and get the required CPU/GPU as optimized for the client as it can be, and everything smoothed out and working... THEN... as for the frosting on the cake... would that be too much to ask the community?
*Finish one step, then move to the next*... endurance is the key to victory, not jumping around and skipping things to get to the next level*
...um EVE players mate, a MMO filled with worse of the gameplaying world; they want it all NOW, just the way they want it (so it benefits them). They spend eight years complaining about a font, and the second its changed, scream louder that a toddler who just had his bottle removed.
Reasonableness? wrong game brother :) |
Captain Alcatraz
Douchingtons
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:08:00 -
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We've been asking for that on the test server forums weeks before the release, tons of pages and likes, always ignored by CCP. |
Westmarch
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:32:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service.... |
Captain Alcatraz
Douchingtons
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:37:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I would love to see a high resolution option. But I don't think they have the manpower for it. It's a fairly labor intensive project. But what they could do is take a page from Bethesda's playbook and release the code for enthusiast modders to work on. They'd have to put some sort of security on it to stop hacking of the client, but look at what us guys with no life have done with the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Some fantastic home made texture pack out there. C'mon CCP. I'm chomping at the bit here. I love modding stuff and would love to have a crack at texturing some of the ships in high resolution. See what you can do. Mr Epeen
They have high-res original files, but they choose to release badly compressed versions to save bandwidth and so that ppl who run EVE on Commodore 64 can play like its 2003
What we have ingame is nothing like the Crucible desktop backgrounds or the nebula trailer they released. In high-sec where the space is colorful it's not so bad but in low sec / 0.0 where we get to see color on black backgrounds, the low-res and the tiled colors jump in our face.
Screenshot
So much ruined potential; its like you painted the Mona Lisa, people are paying to see it, but instead of displaying the original you take picture of it with a disposable camera and print it with an ink printer from the 90s and that's what you show, keeping the original in your basement. It's a shame. |
Adamonus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:55:00 -
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well yes,
its really time to re-push EVE into 2011 again...with usual "standard" quality of textures of this graphic card generation.
or will this definately lead to performace problems in fleetwars? If not, CCP hang on, and give it a high quality option....BEFORE you leave the staff back to WoD ! :-) |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 06:56:00 -
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Ugh, you pretty much said it.
You think they would be more proud of their artistic accomplishments... yet they don't even respond to this. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
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Posted - 2011.11.30 07:33:00 -
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No need for double client (normal and premium), just release "HD patch" with hi res textures as an optional download. And as mentioned before, Capitals looks like craap with present textures.
All effects, postprocessing and other stuff are great... JUST THAT HI-RES TEXTURES.
And as long as EVE is PC/mac only, you dont have restrictions like consoles. Make it best looking game and i bet that EVE would be as an 3D benchmark for gamer magazines (opportunity for EVE advertise/marketing).
GÇ£Reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
427
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Posted - 2011.11.30 08:35:00 -
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A pc benchmark for eve would require a fleet battle.
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Nyssah
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 09:32:00 -
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Seraphim000 wrote:Agreed. Capitals look especially horrid.
The Thanny needs a real texture buff, and more details to make it less of a complete flat pancake! The Nyx might be flat in areas, but there's detail breaking it up to make it more pleasing to look at. |
Finarfin
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:08:00 -
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I would really like nebulaes as advertised in the intial videos. Some HD pack as an optinal and additional download would be much appreciated. |
Crosi Wesdo
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:38:00 -
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I would love this. |
WisdomLikeSilence
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
72
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:59:00 -
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I would seriously appreciate HD nebulas. Its inevitable that they will go higher res eventually - why not make it available now?
As for the ships, meh Im always zoomed out!
Great job on this expansion CCP, btw. 1 Account resubbed. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
211
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:49:00 -
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I wonder how much money CCP would make if they released a HD client for $30 on their site.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Mirabi Tiane
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:57:00 -
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Does TexMod work on EVE? |
Guthris
The Shard Restaurant
7
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:07:00 -
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HD texturepack cost 1000 aurum a month... didnt you guys know of this?
P2HD is the lastest thing in the realm of macrotrancsactions
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
216
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:33:00 -
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I think my biggest complaint for the longest time regarding textures has been that of the lights on ships. They are blurry and and hardly defined at all. In fact they rather look like ****. I was hoping this would change with the V3 updates to the ships but they really haven't at all. They are still just as crappy looking as ever.
Ultimately yes...higher texture detail for those PC's that can use them.
Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:50:00 -
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I fully support this thread. |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:01:00 -
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Saying yes to lossless.
Music for robots, hackers, pirates, geeks and miscellaneous nerds. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
25
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:35:00 -
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EvE NEEDS a super high end texture pack for everything. So ships actually look good up close. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.30 17:47:00 -
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GëíGêÜGëí HD FOREVER
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Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:25:00 -
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Just release the high res nebs you've already got now, and do the ships later.
Comn CCP lets do this. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:37:00 -
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Doubtful. Earlier in the year, I found a neat plugin that allowed you to use MLAA in any 3D application. I filed a petition inquiring about using it in EVE, and was told it would result in a ban. Too bad!  |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:37:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Doubtful. Earlier in the year, I found a neat plugin that allowed you to use MLAA in any 3D application. I filed a petition inquiring about using it in EVE, and was told it would result in a ban. Too bad!
I can force MLAA to work just from my graphic card settings. I think the GM you were talking to was uneducated as to what you were talking about, and assumed the blanket "durrr 3rd party app, me ban!" response. |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
104
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:58:00 -
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+1
I think this is a great idea! The high res assets are already there, all CCP has to do is package them up and send them out to the players.
They'll also make fan videos and promo videos look better, so CCP marketing should be behind this idea too
8GB RAM is $35 (!), and most current gen high end GPUs have at least 1.5GB RAM on the GPU alone, so if CCP has high-res models and textures lurking on their content creation servers, release them! |
Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 02:04:00 -
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The current state of graphics in Eve make Xenuria so sad she torn out one of her eyes.
This cannot stand. |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:41:00 -
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I think I am going ot say this again - how about this, we let them finish what they have on the table before making NEW demands on things not even in the pipe... or shall we just drop the whole V3 skins to where they are now, leave Time-Dialtion to off on TQ, skip all the balancing of things, and the couple new ship models, and all the rest... and go to HD, yea... this sounds great... then people will *****... HD but the Amarr look like crap, LAG!!!... LAG!!!!... unplayable... whaaa.... Hybreds suck now, or X sucks now... CCP is crap... whaaaa... This is the worst HD game... what do you mean the updates are 800GB!!!... wtf CCP, why can't I patch it like a real game... Whaaaaa.... whaaaa... my ***** hurts... whaaaa I have sand in my ****... whaaaaa...
For godsake people, relax and enjoy what you have...
...and Pinning/Toggle must be restored (paraphrase of Cicero). |
Oberine Noriepa
256
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Posted - 2011.12.27 20:16:00 -
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This has been addressed. (Clicky)
CCP Mannbj+¦rn wrote:As Torfi has mentioned before we are discussing the possibility of making optional downloads a reality. If we can make that happen and you have a graphics card that can handle it, then why not?
There is more to it for us than just making the art assets available for download. We have to have some way of maintaining and updating optional downloads, plus some handy way for you to select them at your will.
Now on the subject of blocking the stars. We have been looking into how to make that a reality and as you see in the video from Fanfest it was our intent from the beginning. Unfortunately things don't always go as planned.
Because of the compression artifact that you get in some of the textures now, we would like to explore some better ways of storing them, and also the possibility of optional high quality downloads. Until we know for sure that the format we have is the best we can come up with without killing performance, we just donGÇÖt want to be pushing nebulae content updates, and new tech to support it, over and over again to the community. We truly felt that this was a good start for this part of the renovation and we are hoping that we now have something that we can work with in the future and keep raising the quality of your surroundings.
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Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:06:00 -
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That's great!
One MIPMAP level more would mean 4 times the texture size, but apart from more VRAM use and load on the GPU texture units it is a rather simple change. The problem seems to be how to manage and update optional content in the client... |
Thredd Necro
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:35:00 -
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Doo eet!
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams |
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