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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:52:23 -
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I LOVE EVERY INCH OF ALL OF IT.
TBH I was a bit skeptical about the bonus change on the pilgrim considering good pilgrim pilots could neut out just about any ship in game in about 70 seconds or less (neuts overheat for 90 so no big deal) however I think taken as a whole the pilgrim will get a little better (and easier to fit).
The Rapier will finally be scary again.
The new Lach will be....a pain in the ass to deal with but hey, those are words literally never uttered in EVE so who cares, its not like its got a ton of tank fit when you finally run it down.
The Dscan role bonus is what sells this whole thing.
Theres no way I'm reading through all these pages of angry wormhole/FW dudes bitching about how living somewhere that was supposed to be hard to live in suddenly got not super easy to live in, the change is great.
It gives this group of ships a unique bonus that you hadn't slapped on other ships like the MWD and or Bubble immune bonus, its unique, and its new, and its kind of baller as long as they're the only ships to ever get it.
I've been waiting for this set since you started the tiericide, I'm not at all let down.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2670
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:10:36 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:I LOVE EVERY INCH OF ALL OF IT.
TBH I was a bit skeptical about the bonus change on the pilgrim considering good pilgrim pilots could neut out just about any ship in game in about 70 seconds or less (neuts overheat for 90 so no big deal) however I think taken as a whole the pilgrim will get a little better (and easier to fit).
The Rapier will finally be scary again.
The new Lach will be....a pain in the ass to deal with but hey, those are words literally never uttered in EVE so who cares, its not like its got a ton of tank fit when you finally run it down.
The Dscan role bonus is what sells this whole thing.
Theres no way I'm reading through all these pages of angry wormhole/FW dudes bitching about how living somewhere that was supposed to be hard to live in suddenly got not super easy to live in, the change is great.
It gives this group of ships a unique bonus that you hadn't slapped on other ships like the MWD and or Bubble immune bonus, its unique, and its new, and its kind of baller as long as they're the only ships to ever get it.
I've been waiting for this set since you started the tiericide, I'm not at all let down. 100% not bitching about it, just wondering out loud at the potential lack of people running anoms in wormholes with no way to protect themselves anymore.
If only they made a probe that could detect ships in space that weren't cloaked.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2670
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:22:29 -
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MaxPower 519 wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:Pilgrim without its neut amount bonus? One word: Ugh.
If you absolutely must put a range bonus on it, make it a small one and keep the amount one. Don't neuter the thing it was good at. With this change it's just a weak Curse with a cloak. Which isn't all that big a ~thing~ with the whole "invisible to d-scan" bonus that you want to give to combat recons. With these changes there'd be even fewer reasons to fly a Pilgrim than there are right now. As a Pilgrim pilot I would agree with this.
As a guy who's been flying pilgrims for years you're both wrong, the thing you want the pilgrim to do it can't do anymore and hasn't been able to do since Anoms were introduced and people started ratting together in systems.
I know, its literally my favorite ship in EVE, only EVE changed, and that thing it does isn't really a thing anymore. Your DPS is so lackluster that theres zero chance of you killing a ratter now without help arriving for him.
So, the pilgrim needed to be redesigned around the current environment of Blops gangs where the pilgrim (you know, the one that can use the blops bridge, not the Dscan immune one that still has to take gates or titan bridges with tell tale cynos) was the only ship left that had to go danger close to a target to be effective at all.
Now a pilgrim will effectively be able to support its blops fleet with TD's and neuts from range, without having to go into scram and web range.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2674
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:42:07 -
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Syzygium wrote: or to have a Probing Alt all the time which is simpy annoying and fun-killing..
Stop being so anti social, even jerks like us have managed to find people that like scanning, you dont need an alt, you need a new friend, one who likes to probe.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2674
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:44:15 -
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Dani Maulerant wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:lmbo at all the nerds who refuse to do things in space without perfect intel about everything around them lol spoken by one with numerous intel channels about what's all around them for 10 jumps in any direction.
I dont have those channels and I think you're a risk averse ***** too
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2674
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Posted - 2014.12.19 03:58:16 -
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Syzygium wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Syzygium wrote: or to have a Probing Alt all the time which is simpy annoying and fun-killing.. Stop being so anti social, even jerks like us have managed to find people that like scanning, you dont need an alt, you need a new friend, one who likes to probe. So what you say it that SoloPvP is bullshit at all and should be ignored or at least forced to dualbox all the time and all other forms of PvP should simply bring MORE PEOPLE (what is the final solution to all problems in EvE, just bring MORE...)? Yeah that sounds great. Also a great idea to bring someone who "likes to scan". Yeah. We roam 50 jumps and the guy needs 50times to drop Combat Probes to make sure we don't run into a faggotrytrap with our 3 cruisers. That makes so much sense. I think this "friend" will quit EvE on the third day.
Thats not what I said at all, but good job winding yourself up like a gigantic baby over it.
Solo PVP without a proper or alts right now is already full of traps and ambushes, for the average solo pvp guy, literally nothing will change, his day seeing a lachesis drop on grid will literally be no different than when an arazu decloaks near him.
He will have literally the exact same amount of time to react, because in situation A, you can't see the pilgrim until he commits, and decloaks, he's got a 4-5 second delay in his actions, the Lachesis, you can't see until he commits, and he'll have about 4-5 seconds of warp deceleration PLUS targeting time that delay his actions.
So lets not drag the solo PVP guy on this, post change his day isn't any worse than it was before. If anything he's probably rolling around in a RLML Rapier owning Garmurs.
Second, if you were just running 3 cruisers with no alts theres a pretty good chance you were going to run into a 'faggotytrap'. Second if you're really roaming in 3 guys and you can see 10 dudes in local but dont show ships on scan your spidey sense should already be going off, and if not, one of your traps is probably waiting to kill you.
Sorry, all the crap you're getting spun up about is something entirely made up in your own head
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2674
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Posted - 2014.12.19 04:00:29 -
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Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:[Not so much "I have to be ready to PvP," but "I have to kill this brick-tanked heavy tackle before all of his friends land on me?"
Theres no such thing as a brick tanked recon. They literally dont exist, they're all thin as hell.
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:I notice most who really like this change are part of some of the more massive and notable alliances (No Holes Barred, Pandemic Legion, Brave Collective).
You just grouped two of the smaller alliances in eve with one of the largest.
Get
Out.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2675
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:51:39 -
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Syzygium wrote:\
Also if you do not recognize the difference between a few recons decloaking next to you which gives you around 10 seconds to either warp out or maximize range and speed before they have a successful lock and landing on a grid with some already waiting recons (sensorbooster/remotesensorbooster anyone?) that have locked you 1 second after you have landed on grid, then you might want to watch a few great solo PvP videos and look how you can deal with decloaking recons in a fast ship. What you cannot do when you land and the sensorboosted recon is already waiting for you.
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So you're saying as a good solo PVP guy you'd see six or seven people in local but pick nothing up on Dscan and you'd still warp to the out gate?
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2675
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:53:15 -
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Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:, and have a period of time after decloaking where they can't lock on to anything..
Its 5 seconds. If you were guessing man, what number would you lay on the amount of time it takes a cruiser to decelerate from warp and then lock a target?
Would you say its more or less than 5 seconds?
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2675
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:18:05 -
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Syzygium wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:So you're saying as a good solo PVP guy you'd see six or seven people in local but pick nothing up on Dscan and you'd still warp to the out gate?
lol. You obviously have never lived in LowSec. Six or Seven People in Local means *nothing* here, thats the usual case in like 95% of the factionwar systems and is in no way an indicator for a waiting gang. And to your question: where to warp is completely dependent on system size, sec/corpstatus of the other locals and ship flown. Usually you warp to some celestials or bookmark to check activity via Dscan and then decide to look for an engagement or to leave. These cloaky-Recons are in most cases no danger, because you are long in warp or miles and miles away from them when they decloak and try to lock you. Unfortunately with Dscan Immune ships, that brings nothing any more because the information that there is a Vexor in the Belt is useless if you cant know if that is a Vexor or a Vexor and a Huginn and a Rook and a Lachesis before you are actually there. And no, even "warp to 100" or such stuff does not safe you when they have simply put remotesensorboosted Lach+Huginn at 50. You are immobile 2 seconds after you land and thats "game over".
Whats remote sensorboosting the lach and huggin? Shouldn't you have picked that up on Dscan? Are they remote sensorboosting each other because that seems like they might have gimped their tank a bit. Why aren't you just killing them?
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2684
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Posted - 2014.12.24 19:27:06 -
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Man all these people crying about the resists, if they stayed, why would you ever fly hacs? Damage? In fleets damage output rarely matters, but the ewar utility would have dumpstered the hacs
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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