| Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
   |
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:00:28 -
[1] - Quote
hi mac is really suck at gaming especially for EVE... and I can not boot camp it because of some reasons. So... I'm thinking about buying a desktop only for playing eve, with that being said, you intelligent internet community have any suggestion? budget is up to $500. I appreciate any link or suggestion! fly safe |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7587
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:26:09 -
[2] - Quote
Eve is mostly cpu heavy so if you're building with eve specifically in. Mind that's where you're going the want to spend money.
How many clients do you operate?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
|
Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
401
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:27:25 -
[3] - Quote
Congratulations!
For the last 25min nobody wrote anything in GD anymore.
Everyone is trying to find a good computer for your budget now.
I hope you feel good about this!
Edit: And ralph ruined it. Seriously... 25min and you post just before me. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7589
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:37:16 -
[4] - Quote
It's also worth mentioning that multiple core cpu's Don't offer much of an advantage because the way eve is coded prevents it from making use of more than one core,
I have no actual understanding of how the witchcraft that keeps eve running works but I have enjoyed reading about it and if I remember correctly that was the case,
I am frequently wrong though so ye can feel free to correct me on anything iv said.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
|
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7617
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:41:47 -
[5] - Quote
Bateau Erinys wrote:hi mac is really suck
Yes, yes it does..
You can buy or build a PC with an AMD A8 or A10 CPU (true quad core) and 8GB RAM for less than $500 without monitor. Make sure the RAM is at least DDR3 1866 and the onboard GPU will be very happy
You probably want to mention if you plan to multibox or not, but should be able to pull off 2 instances of EVE easily with something like the above before the GPU becomes the bottleneck.
More cores = multiboxing.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
|
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7132
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:47:11 -
[6] - Quote
blah blah blah joke about a new table blah
blah blah also joke about Surface blah
Whatever
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
|
Mai Khumm
620
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 15:57:51 -
[7] - Quote
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/gcTwrH/entry-level-gaming-build
insert witty saying here
|
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
327
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 16:26:40 -
[8] - Quote
Not really sure what PC's cost in Amerika, but like others said, the amount of instances of EVE you are running at the same time can determine how many cores you want on your CPU. An i5 2.00+ GHz, between 4 and 16GB of DDR3 RAM and something like a GeForce GTX 660+ should be able to run at least 2 instances at max settings. I am no fan of on-board GPU's. Depending on what you can actually get for the $ 500 you mentioned, and wether the monitor should be included in this price, you might want to lower the RAM and/or the GPU. In case you got some money left, try to find a CPU with more GHz.
Getting an i7 instead of an i5 or instead of a quadcore AMD is probably not within your budget, but it's not advised either unless you run at least 5 instances of the game (and possibly even more) at once. Otherwise i5 has better performance compared to an i7 with the same amount of GHz.
Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler app:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
|
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
223
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 16:43:36 -
[9] - Quote
Tips on buying a computer for 1 game.
Dont, if its purely for 1 game soldier on till you need to upgrade for other reasons.
Thats like buying a new house cause the paint in one of the rooms isnt to your liking. |
DaReaper
Net 7
1476
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 16:44:15 -
[10] - Quote
At present I have an AMD A8 (or A9.. lord I forget) with 16gb of ram, and an ATI R9 270 card, I can run 5 eve clients on high settings with no issues.
Also I have a i7 8gb laptop with an NVidia.. 870 I think in it, it can do 1 on high, I have not tested with more.
And I have an Asus T200TA Transformer book, I was able to play 1 account on medium to low settings with very little issues. though I just kinda flew around a wh and jita so have not really tested it yet.
Anything on the market today should play eve with no issues, except non real windows tablets (windows RT is not full windows)
Hope that helps
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
|
|
|
Paul Panala
Black Research Industries
206
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 16:44:18 -
[11] - Quote
Grauth Thorner wrote:Otherwise i5 has better performance compared to an i7 with the same amount of GHz.
That may be true on some applications that have been poorly optimized for multi-threaded operating. Also, there is a tiny amount of overhead used in managing the other cores, but something crazy small. The i7 has more cache than an i5, so it should actually run better than the same GHz i5, assuming only 2 cores are in use.
Now, if a given game/application tries to use all 4 cores and results in poorer performance than if it had only used 2, that is the programmer's fault, not the processor's.
Having said that, I agree that a modern i5 is fine for running up to 4 clients. |
Paul Panala
Black Research Industries
206
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 16:52:41 -
[12] - Quote
Xylem Viliana wrote:Tips on buying a computer for 1 game.
Dont, if its purely for 1 game soldier on till you need to upgrade for other reasons.
Thats like buying a new house cause the paint in one of the rooms isnt to your liking.
Why? The OP did not ask for financial advice, if Eve is an important part of his life and his current rig does not run it well, why not upgrade? The real question is if a computer, primarily used for Eve, is worth $500 it to him. It sounds like he already decided the answer is yes. We also don't know what other plans he has for the new computer, or plans to repurpose the existing one that offset that investment. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
334
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 17:44:31 -
[13] - Quote
Paul Panala wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Otherwise i5 has better performance compared to an i7 with the same amount of GHz. That may be true on some applications that have been poorly optimized for multi-threaded operating. Also, there is a tiny amount of overhead used in managing the other cores, but something crazy small. The i7 has more cache than an i5, so it should actually run better than the same GHz i5, assuming only 2 cores are in use. Now, if a given game/application tries to use all 4 cores and results in poorer performance than if it had only used 2, that is the programmer's fault, not the processor's.
The statement is based on some articles I've read and benchmark tests of about 2-3 years ago. The problem had to do with checking wether it needs to hyperthread, starting the hyperthreading and stopping the hyperthreading, which is something the i5 doesn't have to do (as long as it has 4 cores and not 2).
For rather new games and games in the future, i7 will mostly be better because using 8 threads is becoming the new standard for games. No idea how many threads EVE is running simultaneaosly though, but according to Ralph King-Griffin:
Quote:It's also worth mentioning that multiple core cpu's Don't offer much of an advantage because the way eve is coded prevents it from making use of more than one core although he also states in his post that he's frequently wrong 
Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler app:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
|
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3610
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 18:08:41 -
[14] - Quote
Would recommend i5-4440 for any budget PC build.
Oh god.
|
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3610
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 18:14:15 -
[15] - Quote
Grauth Thorner wrote:8 threads is becoming the new standard for games.
Since when? I play a lot of games and buy a lot of new releases. I haven't seen any games that require an 8 core CPU. I've seen many games that have stability issues with 8 core CPUs though.
Oh god.
|
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3044
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 18:31:50 -
[16] - Quote
maybe not in your budget but i can only recommend a SSD. Buy a small for OS + things you use daily and keep the remaining stuff on classic drives.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
|
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
335
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:02:52 -
[17] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:8 threads is becoming the new standard for games. Since when? I play a lot of games and buy a lot of new releases. I haven't seen any games that require an 8 core CPU. I've seen many games that have stability issues with 8 core CPUs though.
Pretty much since the next-gen consoles use 8 cores. Games using 8 threads doesn't mean that your PC needs to be able to run 8 threads at the same time though.
Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler app:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
|
Fatoria Hemah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:07:26 -
[18] - Quote
As I'm looking forward to buying a new PC as well and if I have time to play anything it's 99% playing eve and 1% mining asteroids I'd also would like to get some kind of 'official' statement if eve does support multithreading or if only higher Ghz matters. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7627
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:22:51 -
[19] - Quote
Fatoria Hemah wrote:As I'm looking forward to buying a new PC as well and if I have time to play anything it's 99% playing eve and 1% mining asteroids I'd also would like to get some kind of 'official' statement if eve does support multithreading or if only higher Ghz matters.
The EVE client is not multi-threaded.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
|
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:37:32 -
[20] - Quote
Wow, the care I feel ... Didn't expect these responses, just wow.
Now let me start reading. And thanks everyone |
|
|
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:40:52 -
[21] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve is mostly cpu heavy so if you're building with eve specifically in. Mind that's where you're going the want to spend money.
How many clients do you operate?
3 mostly,
4 when i rat |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:41:44 -
[22] - Quote
 Sol Project wrote:Congratulations!
For the last 25min nobody wrote anything in GD anymore.
Everyone is trying to find a good computer for your budget now.
I hope you feel good about this!
Edit: And ralph ruined it. Seriously... 25min and you post just before me.
yes yes yes
but no worry i love you too. |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:44:00 -
[23] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Bateau Erinys wrote:hi mac is really suck Yes, yes it does.. You can buy or build a PC with an AMD A8 or A10 CPU (true quad core) and 8GB RAM for less than $500 without monitor. Make sure the RAM is at least DDR3 1866 and the onboard GPU will be very happy You probably want to mention if you plan to multibox or not, but should be able to pull off 2 instances of EVE easily with something like the above before the GPU becomes the bottleneck. More cores = multiboxing. More cores = EVE + other things simultaneously.
understood. I'm -1/10 in terms of computers tho so probably will get something popular. Thank you very much |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:47:36 -
[24] - Quote
Grauth Thorner wrote:Not really sure what PC's cost in Amerika, but like others said, the amount of instances of EVE you are running at the same time can determine how many cores you want on your CPU. An i5 2.00+ GHz, between 4 and 16GB of DDR3 RAM and something like a GeForce GTX 660+ should be able to run at least 2 instances at max settings. I am no fan of on-board GPU's. Depending on what you can actually get for the $ 500 you mentioned, and wether the monitor should be included in this price, you might want to lower the RAM and/or the GPU. In case you got some money left, try to find a CPU with more GHz.
Getting an i7 instead of an i5 or instead of a quadcore AMD is probably not within your budget, but it's not advised either unless you run at least 5 instances of the game (and possibly even more) at once. Otherwise i5 has better performance compared to an i7 with the same amount of GHz.
very important notice sir. I do already have a monitor, and definitely will not run over 5 instances at the same time. I'v been play EVE with low settings/ 13inch monitors for 6 years, so you may image how happy i will be even it is just a minor improvement. :))
and thank you. |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:48:52 -
[25] - Quote
Xylem Viliana wrote:Tips on buying a computer for 1 game.
Dont, if its purely for 1 game soldier on till you need to upgrade for other reasons.
Thats like buying a new house cause the paint in one of the rooms isnt to your liking.
I can probably sell them....or ...i dont know...
you are right I can invest them elsewhere for more utility tho. :( |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:50:03 -
[26] - Quote
DaReaper wrote:At present I have an AMD A8 (or A9.. lord I forget) with 16gb of ram, and an ATI R9 270 card, I can run 5 eve clients on high settings with no issues.
Also I have a i7 8gb laptop with an NVidia.. 870 I think in it, it can do 1 on high, I have not tested with more.
And I have an Asus T200TA Transformer book, I was able to play 1 account on medium to low settings with very little issues. though I just kinda flew around a wh and jita so have not really tested it yet.
Anything on the market today should play eve with no issues, except non real windows tablets (windows RT is not full windows)
Hope that helps
You can easily get an amd/ati computer setup for $400. just check a few place, pricewatch.com is a good reference for price comparison, if you build your own
Thank you. and you sir we are on completely differently levels lol |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:52:02 -
[27] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:maybe not in your budget but i can only recommend a SSD. Buy a small for OS + things you use daily and keep the remaining stuff on classic drives.
That is also what I'm considering. I have one but that is only for work. |
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 19:56:06 -
[28] - Quote
nice now i have some clues, will hunt for goods in christmas. o/ |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3612
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 20:10:37 -
[29] - Quote
Grauth Thorner wrote:next-gen consoles
?????
Oh god.
|
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
215
|
Posted - 2014.12.19 20:22:05 -
[30] - Quote
Bateau Erinys wrote:hi mac is really suck at gaming especially for EVE... and I can not boot camp it because of some reasons. So... I'm thinking about buying a desktop only for playing eve, with that being said, you intelligent internet community have any suggestion? budget is up to $500. I appreciate any link or suggestion! fly safe
Www.pcpartpicker.com |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |