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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:41:59 -
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That last graph with the value of ISK and assets seized. I'm pretty sure the y-axis scale is in trillions. I tweeted out over 3 billion in tears from people who had their freshly purchased ISK seized in July.
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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.19 16:15:20 -
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Curious about one thing. Are you going to put the important parts of CCP Falcon's 15 November post in the Third Party Policies, ToS, or other official page connected to the EVE Online Rules of Conduct? Because I'm tired of all the space lawyers digging up posts for 2010 to justify their behavior. I'd love to just be able to say that all of the forum posts from before 1 January 2015 are outdated and no longer apply.
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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.19 18:12:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Where it says: "There is not much more to say about this matter than is already stated in the post and we trust we'll not have any trouble with this after January 1st 2015." Does that mean the legitimate questions around the use of things like round robin/VFX which are still outstanding will simply not be answered?
According to this, if 2 or more actions are performed by 1 keystroke/mouseclick, that is considered stored keystrokes and violates the EULA. Like pressing an ISBoxer hotkey and having the software execute F1 plus whatever command is required to cycle to the next client. ISBoxer users will need to input 2 commands, not 1.
Don't ask me how CCP plans to enforce it; that's just what I got from CCP Random on Twitter.
Oh, and if anyone tries to use an old post from the forums saying that's okay, don't bother. Looks like any of those old responses will be considered "outdated" on 1 January 2015. Which quite frankly, I'm okay with. I've always hated having to reference old forum posts. I thought that was pretty stupid. In a couple of weeks, they are all outdated and we just need to go to the EULA, ToS, and policy pages.
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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.19 22:19:15 -
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Thanneus Ikkala wrote:Where does this put users of EVE Mentat for the IGB market cache skimmer? This may be considered a macro.
It should be if the cache scraper is continuously running with no user input. Hopefully the dev for EVE Mentat will do what the dev for EVE Central is doing and move to getting the market data from authCREST. That would eliminate the EULA violation beginning on 1 January 2015.
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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.20 05:13:51 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Rosewalker wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Where it says: "There is not much more to say about this matter than is already stated in the post and we trust we'll not have any trouble with this after January 1st 2015." Does that mean the legitimate questions around the use of things like round robin/VFX which are still outstanding will simply not be answered? According to this, if 2 or more actions are performed by 1 keystroke/mouseclick, that is considered stored keystrokes and violates the EULA. Like pressing an ISBoxer hotkey and having the software execute F1 plus whatever command is required to cycle to the next client. ISBoxer users will need to input 2 commands, not 1. Don't ask me how CCP plans to enforce it; that's just what I got from CCP Random on Twitter. Oh, and if anyone tries to use an old post from the forums saying that's okay, don't bother. Looks like any of those old responses will be considered "outdated" on 1 January 2015. Which quite frankly, I'm okay with. I've always hated having to reference old forum posts. I thought that was pretty stupid. In a couple of weeks, they are all outdated and we just need to go to the EULA, ToS, and policy pages. Hmm, it does seem like a CCP statement would be good here. I've thought of the new rules as "One keystroke sends one command to one client". If that keystroke also tells your computer to switch to another client, that's OK, as it is not a command sent to the client, but to your computer. But I'm not CCP.
The 1 keystroke = 1 command to 1 client fits what CCP Falcon posted, but Team Security also is clarifying that Section 6A3 goes beyond that. Between the dev blog and a couple of tweets, it sounds like it really is 1 keystroke/mouse click = 1 action in 1 client, which is a bit more restrictive.
Honestly, that's what I've always believed the EULA stated anyway.
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Rosewalker
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:34:05 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:Good to see the tightening of the policies. Scale of the graph looks to be a deliberate obsfuscation? I'd assume trillions, but assumptions is the mother of all FU ... left open to interpretation by the masses.
1/10 on graph-fu. Fail.
We're assuming trillions because the scale on the graph in the April Team Security dev blog read trillions. But it would be nice if the graph was labeled 
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