since coming on board.

I don't think the Exequror redesign is an improvement. The ship didn't need a redesign in my opinion. It is currently kind of cute and retro. Take the Event Horizon, build it out of 60s car parts, and stick it in a wacky comic book universe. That is the Exequror. It has character. The redesign looses the sexiness and becomes more straight and brick-like. The same fate befell the Megathron. Is there a reason for removing the organic gracefulness of Gallente ships?

The new stubby Manticore-esque wings also do it no favors. Neither do the two satellite dishes that give it the appearance of ears from the front.

All the Exequror needed was a few more divisions in the cylinders to smooth out the geometry. Also some smoothing of the exposed wires on the underbelly. Though I don't understand why so many EVE ships have exposed wiring to begin with. I guess that is one positive to the new design, the wires are gone. But instead of retaining the smooth shape down there it is now straight. Meh.

Mining changes have been talked about and thought of for a while now both internally and externally. There are thoughts on changing the gameplay of mining to make it more of a visceral experience, and provide miners with a range of passive and active gameplay that they can choose how much they engage in.
With that being said other issues are taking precedence in the near/mid future.

IMO this is a high priority.

Well, it can only mean that if you assume that the environmental artists are the ones developing ring mining game play. Or that ring mining has even been mentioned on the road map since Seagull took over.

Ring and comet mining were ideas that were floated in the past with no clear game play or reason behind then. We'd need a reason to include new resource harvesting that isn't present right now otherwise it's an alternate source of existing minerals, gas, or ice (or some combination there of) that doesn't really add anything new that's interesting.

Re: Module Tiericide

I'm hoping that this round will remember to include T1 modules - addressing their relative uselessness (except as a component to build the T2 versions), due to (a) weaker stats across the board compared to metas, and (b) typically higher cost as compared to low, and sometimes even high, metas.

Metas for most modules are simply too plentiful, due to high NPC drop rates, and too cheap, since the lower bound on their value is usually determined by the reprocessing value (which dropped by 50% during the reprocessing changes and made things even worse). The build cost of T1 modules typically exceeds the reprocessing value of metas - thus the T1 price is usually higher, as a result.

Because of this, there is no reason to use, or build, most T1 modules.

Module Tieiricde is the right time and place to fix this problem, and make T1 modules and T1 module manufacturing (aka noob manufacturing) a part of the game again.

Note 1: MAPCs are a good example of how to do it right, although the T1 build cost could be lowered somewhat, relative to the T2 build cost. Metas should always be rare, and thus more expensive - used only when a tight fit or extra oomph justifies the higher cost.

Note 2: Cargo Scanners a good example of how to do it WRONG. Enduring Cargo Scanners are always better than T1 versions, and usually cheaper, due to abundant (over)supply. There isn't any reason to use the T1 version.

In my opinion, T2 modules should be more powerful than T1 or metas, but should also have drawbacks, which make it impossible or problematic to fit T2-only to ships. A ship with T2 bonuses to weapons should see some disadvantage in tank or speed; a ship with T2 bonuses to tank should see some disadvantage in firepower; et cetera.

What I hope to see from module tiercide is an increase in diversity between sub-T2 modules, and in situations where T2 is not necessarily the optimal choice (however as said above, I'd like them to maintain a general superiority over T1 variants). ... My biggest concern though is how much immersion is lost if everything has "ample" or "compact" or "polarized" variants.

well as no one else has said it yet,

welcome aboard

i like your direct tone.

o7

Mining changes have been talked about and thought of for a while now both internally and externally. There are thoughts on changing the gameplay of mining to make it more of a visceral experience, and provide miners with a range of passive and active gameplay that they can choose how much they engage in.
With that being said other issues are taking precedence in the near/mid future.

I do applaud that. As long as 'visceral' does not translate into 'loot sew'. And I would guess Sovereignty is in more of a need for a ground breaking overhaul than mining at the moment. So one step at a time, I guess. And no silly walks!

Oh my gourd!
Beccy, look at Oneiros
It is so symmetrical
It looks like one of those GǪ Star Citizen ships
Who understands Star Citizen?

They only fly it because it looks so clich+¬, okay?
I mean GǪ Oneiros is just so GǪ straight
I can't believe it's just so symmetrical
It's out there
I mean GǪ *phah* GǪ gross!

It's just so-áGǪ-áboring.


(with apologies to Sir Mix-A-Lot, and the art team)

STOP!!!! Stop eliminating unsymetrical hulls from this game!!! you have hit the exequor with a FUGLY stick... scrap this abomination please! This was one of my favorite ships... Its now moving to one of my most hated....

Combat Recon Ships Undetectable by Directional Scanning

Combat recon ships will be impossible to detect with directional scans and bonuses and attributes will be looked over for all 8 Force and Combat Recon ships. For more details and to provide feedback, take a look at this thread: Recon Ships

T2 lml's are too good they basically obsolete all the meta's by having all their specialisations and then some..
the point should be too offer different options throughout not upto T2 then T2 is always better

Those are become faction modules with the same drop rate as before. Mining Laser Upgrades are not changing as much as some of the other module types when it comes to merging named modules. There will be more info out about the changes very soon.

Hey.

This is important. The Exeq looks amazing, but now the pace of things has me worried you're going to touch the Caracal or Merlin. Or the Drake. However, please do touch the Ferox vigorously... it is very face-heavy and its hind quarters look like the result of malnutrition throughout childhood.

Can we agree the only issue with the Merlin is the thing that right-handed turrets do when they're mounted on the left? (something k8 and I noticed while discussing the visual updates on Sisi)

A few more things may make it into the release, keep an eye out for the Patch Notes in January for the full set of changes.

I'm going to have to lay that particular opinion down to rest as it is flatly untrue.

Compact light missile launchers have proven to be revolutionary in fitting in lowsec combat, specifically FW. The SIGNIFICANTLY lower cpu reqs allow for far more fitting options than you would otherwise have on ships with tight room, and the reason why the compact micros remain at such a premium even over the navy faction variants isn't due to lack of supply by any means.

Generally t2 carriers a hefty premium over its meta counterparts; this is especially true with weapons certainly, but the offset of higher fitting reqs and capacitor balance it out quite handily; the Crow is an excellent example of this since after the pass over it can't actually fit a full rack of t2 launchers and anything resembling a tank without serious skills and gimping its potential speed by loading up on fitting implants and rigs. A full rack of compact lights work wonders on the crow, corax, or even the kestrel to a certain extent. It's just not very visible now due to the lack of 'rebalanced' modules and weapons currently out. Light missiles being the only ones, and they have done very nicely.

So question here...if hull and prop upgrades like overdrives and nanos use no pg or cpu, what exactly will be unique about cleaning up the meta with them? will they just have intermediate stats or will you be changing the mods themselves in some way?

Would you say, then, that the compact LMLs have become the new Arbalests, just with better fitting stats? If that is the case, then all that the rebalancing has achieved is the replacement of one obvious t1 choice with another. Is this what the the tiericide was meant to do?