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Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.21 05:22:51 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:If you want clarification for anything like this, the best thing to do is to file a support ticket and ask the GMs. Any other answer will be non-authoritative.
So I followed your advice and just asked a GM for clarification on macros. He literally just told me to ask my question on the forums for clarification.
So I have an in game GM telling me to come to the forums for clarification and a forum CCP dev telling me to go in game for clarification.
Who am I supposed to believe? |
Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.21 14:56:14 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Rosewalker, thanks for posting this quote from Team Security. CCP Grimmi wrote:
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
I find this language to be quite damning of any round robin input schemes Lucas has been advocating in the multiboxing threadnaught. It also rules out the mouse macro function as an acceptable tool to use with EVE.
But "activate all your hardeners at once" is doable without a macro. Its just more convenient to do so with a macro.
Additionally, this type of macro was allowed historically and the recent EULA changes seem like they were targetted at multiboxers, so if they are also outlawing this type of macro that change appears accidental. If it was intentional then CCP would have said something on the dev blog. |
Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.21 20:41:58 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
Maybe you don't want an answer. Sounds like you just want someone to tell you that it's ok.
No I want an answer from an authoritative source. If the answer is no then I will be surprised but I will move on.
But the dev post said their macro policy hasn't changed and historically this type of macro has been allowed. I just wanted to be sure. |
Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.21 22:30:37 -
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Rosewalker wrote:Waltaratzor wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
Maybe you don't want an answer. Sounds like you just want someone to tell you that it's ok.
No I want an answer from an authoritative source. If the answer is no then I will be surprised but I will move on. But the dev post said their macro policy hasn't changed and historically this type of macro has been allowed. I just wanted to be sure. If this helps, CSM member mynnna suggests via Twitter filing the ticket with the community team.
How do I file a ticket with the community team? I tried filing ingame and was sent to the forums. |
Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.23 02:26:04 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Waltaratzor wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
Maybe you don't want an answer. Sounds like you just want someone to tell you that it's ok.
No I want an answer from an authoritative source. If the answer is no then I will be surprised but I will move on. Quote:
@FuzzySteve: @noizygamer @CCP_Random Common question: 'does this apply to turning on all my hardeners with a single keypress, on my G13'
CCP_Random: @Fuzzysteve @noizygamer by definition it does.
Can we move on now?
The only CCP post in this thread specifically said that this wasn't an authoritative source. Not sure how you missed it. Its the 3rd post in the thread.
Edit: This is a bigger issue than just macros. Its "Who at CCP can I ask if I have a rules question?". Because it seems like forum devs and ingame GMs are each trying to cover their ass by pushing the issue onto the other guys. |
Waltaratzor
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Posted - 2014.12.24 05:50:51 -
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Orlacc wrote:What is it about "stored rapid keystrokes" that you can't understand?
So lets look at that sections.
"You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play"
Okay, so any 3rd party program that helps you do better in game is forbidden. Well that would reasonably ban Mumble and any other 3rd party VOIP program, as those definitely give you an advantage over players who don't use them(try doing incursions without 3rd party comms and compare your results to those who use them). That would be the straightforward interpretation of the EULA.
Lucky for us, CCP addresses this in their 3rd party policy. They will allow it if it "enhance(s) player enjoyment in a way that maintains fair gameplay". This determination is at their sole discretion. Now, at one time CCP GMs thought that the "activate all your hardeners at once" macro maintained fair play. Right now I would like to find out from an "authoritative" source if those macros are still allowed.
http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/third-party-policies/ |
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