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Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:00:00 - [61] There are hardly any alliances who have not had allies in this game, now if you think the bulk of eve is weak then meh, at least they are in space with their guns rather than create an alt and infiltrate a corp to the point of getting basic hanger access.
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:01:00 - [62] Originally by: Hans Roaming There are hardly any alliances who have not had allies in this game, now if you think the bulk of eve is weak then meh, at least they are in space with their guns rather than create an alt and infiltrate a corp to the point of getting basic hanger access. I do think the majority of eve 0.0 alliances are either weak, or ruining the game for the long term, that is my opinion. As for being in space with guns blazing, I can assure you neither me nor my master lack fights, some have already insinuated we are not peacefull industrialists, and I must admit they are right on that point.
Val Oman Delta Desperados	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:10:00 - [63] Originally by: Tazmine I hope long, or my dearest master will haveto make a new thread to reveal his brilliant plots and schemes! I'm sure everyone is on pins and needles to find out what other brilliant plots and schemes await us... Will it be ganging with a UK mission runner and shooting him while he is tanking? or maybe sneaking up on a UK mining op and snatching 120m3 ore in a stealth bomber? or perhaps the treat of seeing several minmitar ships selling for 1 zero more at UNITY in hopes someone will miss the decimal point... Only time will tell...
Witch Doctor Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:16:00 - [64] Corp thieving is so 2004. It's even easier than ore thieving. Why do we even see threads about it anymore? I do like the unintentional comedy of the 0.0 commentary. I think that means everyone holding space in 0.0 is "weak". I think that leaves the Jove Empire as strong.
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:22:00 - [65] Originally by: Witch Doctor Corp thieving is so 2004. It's even easier than ore thieving. Why do we even see threads about it anymore? I do like the unintentional comedy of the 0.0 commentary. I think that means everyone holding space in 0.0 is "weak". I think that leaves the Jove Empire as strong. No, it means the massive alliances blobbing their way to victory and zydrine. As for corp theft, it's fun.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:31:00 - [66] I'm still trying to figure out Tazmine's logic here, to be honest. So all wars should be one alliance vs one alliance, one corp vs one corp, one ship vs one ship? And where does corp theft fit into that progression?
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:33:00 - [67] Originally by: Garreck I'm still trying to figure out Tazmine's logic here, to be honest. So all wars should be one alliance vs one alliance, one corp vs one corp, one ship vs one ship? And where does corp theft fit into that progression? Wars will be what they are, i'm not for adding any rules, however that you cannot control things, does not mean you haveto enjoy or condone them. Take this corp theft, it is permitted within the game rules, but you do not condone it, as a result some people dont care, others say they will kill me in real life while others just wanto kill me in game, i'm not going to force you to like it, but you cant do much about it. Alliance warfare in 0.0 is a joke, and in my opinion killing the game with it's focus shifting ever more towards massive blobs, what can I do about it? well not much, but I can give my opinion.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.11 18:57:00 - [68] Originally by: Tazmine Alliance warfare in 0.0 is a joke, and in my opinion killing the game with it's focus shifting ever more towards massive blobs, what can I do about it? well not much, but I can give my opinion. Alliance warfare is about power. Political power, military power, industrial power. Where you lack in one of those three, you try to make up for in the other areas. To that end, the empire-building model in 0.0 is actually quite "realistic," and the intrigue is wonderful. Who's gonna help out whom? Who will make a move against another? Let's look at this specific conflict: a lot of pirates seem interested in Unity Station. Nearby you have ISS, a highly industrial/trade-centric alliance who is obviously on good terms with Ushra'Khan. As a trade-centric alliance, who would ISS rather see maintain control of Unity Station; Ushra'Khan, a rather like-minded alliance (in industrial terms) or a bunch of pirates who would probably disrupt trade and industry in the area? And so ISS picks their side in the conflict. Your concept of "if you can't hold it/take it yourself, you don't deserve it" is static and...boring.
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Tazmine Alliance warfare in 0.0 is a joke, and in my opinion killing the game with it's focus shifting ever more towards massive blobs, what can I do about it? well not much, but I can give my opinion. Alliance warfare is about power. Political power, military power, industrial power. Where you lack in one of those three, you try to make up for in the other areas. To that end, the empire-building model in 0.0 is actually quite "realistic," and the intrigue is wonderful. Who's gonna help out whom? Who will make a move against another? Let's look at this specific conflict: a lot of pirates seem interested in Unity Station. Nearby you have ISS, a highly industrial/trade-centric alliance who is obviously on good terms with Ushra'Khan. As a trade-centric alliance, who would ISS rather see maintain control of Unity Station; Ushra'Khan, a rather like-minded alliance (in industrial terms) or a bunch of pirates who would probably disrupt trade and industry in the area? And so ISS picks their side in the conflict. Your concept of "if you can't hold it/take it yourself, you don't deserve it" is static and...boring. You're train of thought here is so simplistic, read what I write and dont see every post in black and white, I said UK were weak and undeserving, not that every other corp was. My own opinions are, that their members are lacking in character, aswell as skill, they have no spine nor stumach for combat. Those are my opinions, based on my stay. If you feel otherwise, well thats for you to do, personally I don't care one way or another, this has been dragged down to semantics and I give my opinions. I loathe carebears, carebears like ISS, and UK, but what I loathe more, are hypocrites and imbeciles, much like the ones I, in my own opinion found within UK.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:04:00 - [70] Originally by: Tazmine I said UK were weak and undeserving Well, by your own Darwinian logic...I suppose time will tell
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:05:00 - [71] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Tazmine I said UK were weak and undeserving Well, by your own Darwinian logic...I suppose time will tell Of that I am certain, the best they can possibly hope for is to be left remaining as slaves...a fitting faith that would be.
War Drumb	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:02:00 - [72] Speaking from only a tactical stand point, only fools risk their own assets without foreknowledge of future gains. Some say to kill an army it takes an army. I say to kill an army all it takes is a well placed dagger; knowing it or not you seem to have been a nice sized dagger. Only time will tell if the blow was fatal. Don't fret precious I'm here, step away from the window... Go back to sleep... Lay your head down child I won't let the boogeyman come, Counting bodies like sheep To the rhythm of the war drums
Unuthiel Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:03:00 - [73] Quote: I justify nothing, I answer to my master and no one else, the acceptance of the carebears in eve is not something he seeks. You are aware this is an OOC section, yes? In which case, all this talk of your "master" makes me wonder if you play eve with a rubber ball gag in your mouth.....
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:26:00 - [74] Originally by: Eddie Gordo Virtually nothing has been mentioned of this theft to the Ushra'khan Council, nor as it really been talked about through any other channels. I can only assume that this is because nothing of value has been taken. Perhaps if our attention was not on the security of 9uy this little cry for attention wouldnt go unoticed. Why is the security of 9uy such a big deal? Oh, hehe evil grin Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:28:00 - [75] Corp theft is lame. If you're gonna grief someone, do it with style. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Camar Stormriders	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:43:00 - [76] Tazmine, you claim U'K to be spineless and do not fight? And by using an alt to make a corp-theft NOT fighting them instead makes you spineless as well? Or perhaps the "carebear" you so truly seem to despise? Becasue it takes so much guts and risk to rob corphangars... Since the birth of eve everything has been about getting the advantage, either by highly skilled pilots (vs less skilled/skillpoints pilots), equipment or numbers. Any alliance in this game will call for superiour numbers or tactics that will allow either as small losses as possible or victory by domination. And to judge from your logic we shall soon be reading about how you rob about every other alliance in this game as well? Or perhaps you could enligten me/us of some alliances/corps that do NOT deploy any of the 3 I stated a bit further up? Oh, might be a tad hard though, since if you fight without any of it you end up losing your ship(s) and aren't very long-lived.
Lumel Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.09.11 21:03:00 - [77] Ho hum, threads like these almost never seem to deliver. In this case, this thread fails on a number of levels: 1) In Character on an OOC board. OP is either lacking certain mental facilities, or is so sociopathic that they'll purposefully mess up simple things to get people interested. 2) OP promises to list vast booty stolen. OP then never gets around to doing so and just argues random points with random passers-by. (More sociopathic tendencies?) 3) OP has a "master". I would guess that for most people, "my master" basically translates to "me, sitting behind the keyboard or maybe one of my other characters". Of course, if OP is actually referring to another player as their master.. well, refer to point 1 (I hope). So let's see the list of Gist X-type stuff you looted or something. --- Knowledge won't help us understand
Astarte Nosferatu House Nosferatu Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.09.11 21:54:00 - [78] Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 11/09/2006 21:54:53 600mil? Hell, that's pocketchange. I would probably throw more at you if you were playing a flute in some ghetto and I liked the tune. Considering an alliance like Ushra'Khan has far more isk than I have, you surely must realise you've accomplished absolutely nothing by bragging with an alt in an OOC forum that you've just stolen a measily 600mil from an RP alliance that has tens of billions of isk? Keep up the good work sport. At least people have a good laugh when I make myself rediculous, in your case on the other hand...
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.11 22:12:00 - [79] Originally by: Tazmine Originally by: Hans Roaming There are hardly any alliances who have not had allies in this game, now if you think the bulk of eve is weak then meh, at least they are in space with their guns rather than create an alt and infiltrate a corp to the point of getting basic hanger access. I do think the majority of eve 0.0 alliances are either weak, or ruining the game for the long term, that is my opinion. As for being in space with guns blazing, I can assure you neither me nor my master lack fights, some have already insinuated we are not peacefull industrialists, and I must admit they are right on that point. Yes that's why you didn't join up with those fighting UK and decided to rip off this corps lowest access hangers instead. The view you have of alliances is a bit nieve if you feel that politics does not feature heavily and I don't mean what you just see on the boards but the stuff that goes on in one to one convos and deals being made all around eve. But then you;ve only been in Eve a couple of months so wouldn;t expect you to have picked it up yet.
Tazmine Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.11 22:37:00 - [80] As i'm going to bed I wont take the time to answer posts which I have already answered in my own, earlier posts. I will however state this, the very core of the matter. It has been fun and profitable.
Hime Kaizoku	Posted - 2006.09.12 04:04:00 - [81] Originally by: Tazmine This 0.0 alliance is unable to hold their own, and without backing from others would faulter in days, signs of a weak alliance not fit to live, I simply do not see what right they have to live on as a 0.0 alliance. Heres a joke for you. Q: How many pirate alliances and corps does it take to wipe out a few hundred of roleplayers? A: Dont kno, still counting and they roleplayers are still there. I recon the minnies will earn mroe respect than u even if they lose. Originally by: Malthros Zenobia LOL I R ALT CORPTHIEF. Trying to hide in plain sight? u should be carefull who u brag to.
JoeT Amarr Nubs. Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.12 06:38:00 - [82] Edited by: JoeT on 12/09/2006 06:38:37 I keep seeing post calling Tazmine an alt. I can assure you he is not an alt, cause we play WoW sometimes. He does play it alot more then me though. --- I need a sig :(
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.12 06:43:00 - [83] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 11/09/2006 21:54:53 600mil? Hell, that's pocketchange. Yeah, we cost U'K five times that every day! Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.12 07:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Hans Roaming I thought the Establishment had more vested in this conflict than any of the other combatants, why the fixation on Veto? Got a special relationship there maybe? If I wanted to rip off Ushra'Khan, I'd have done it personally. Corp Theft isn't my scene, and I'd never let it tarnish a reputation as a trustworthy player that I've been building for over 2 years, let alone the reputation of my corp, whom I value more than myself. Personally I'm having fun in Provindence, and always try to liven up local and destroy the amount of hostility and smack that we've faced. In my opinion it's going great so far. Veto hardly need to tarnish a growing reputation as people loyal to their word by employing someone to clean out a corp hangar. BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.12 08:17:00 - [85] You dont like zools poems? Now Recruiting
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.12 08:24:00 - [86] Originally by: Tazmine Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Tazmine My master has nothing to do with their wars, hampering their efforts is merely a bonus. The U'K's tactics are nothing but zergling and blobbing, calling in more men whenever the tide turns against them, if anyone is going to tell me Veto and their ilk would have trouble fighting the members of these corporations without the use of cheap tactics i'd say you need to get out of jita and meet up with the combatants involved in this conflict. It says it all when a minmatar anti-slavery rp alliance enlists the aid of their amarr counterparts to fight local pirates in 0.0. You mean there's more to EVE than Jita? Hot dang have I been missing out on this game. As for UK fighting with all they have, well it is their outpost that is under attack, should they keep some people back? I mean when attacking for an outpost shouldn't one expect to counter the best the enemy can muster? You didn't see MC complain that the Big Blue brought too many people to that initial fight at the gate. I thought the Establishment had more vested in this conflict than any of the other combatants, why the fixation on Veto? Got a special relationship there maybe? Actually my fixation is that they are the only enemy of the UK i've seen around in force, I havent looked into the politics of the UK's enemy, what I know of this conflict I know from alliance and corp chat, do you think Veto would bother hiding it if I was employed by them? my employers live about 90 jumps north, the last dealings I had with Veto were fighting them around amamake. This is not the Uk's enemies whining about numbers, its someone not involved in the war noting from inside information, his feelings about the tactics used by one side. This 0.0 alliance is unable to hold their own, and without backing from others would faulter in days, signs of a weak alliance not fit to live, I simply do not see what right they have to live on as a 0.0 alliance. Further they are an RP alliance, the irony of them throwing this aside when it suits them to enlist the aid of their sworn enemies as per their own believes, well I find it humouros. I rather wish I was affiliated with Veto, or any corporation in this war, but alas those I work for and their resources are no where near, and as i'm certain you can understand, a 100 afk-auto pilot trough high sec would be out of the question. Don't pass blame just yet, blame will be claimed soon enough and I doubt anyone will be able to guess the person or corporaton he is affiliated too, there is no prior link between my employers and UK. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.12 08:25:00 - [87] Originally by: Tazmine This 0.0 alliance is unable to hold their own, and without backing from others would faulter in days, signs of a weak alliance not fit to live, I simply do not see what right they have to live on as a 0.0 alliance. I couldnt care less about the smack of a corp thief. I let our enemys commentand judge our weaknesses, not a coward. We claimed an entire constellation with very few numbers and self layed on recruiting restrictions (failed in your case obviously) for roleplay. With oteher words we do not aim big, otherwise we would be big. Our survival is based upon respect. You still have to learn the meaning of that word (this is occ forum and i am not mixing that up unlike yourself) Originally by: Tazmine Further they are an RP alliance, the irony of them throwing this aside when it suits them to enlist the aid of their sworn enemies as per their own believes, well I find it humouros. a) we did not enlist them, i am not even sure if you know that they shoot us as well as they shoot pirates maybe you missed out the past three years of eve? as for mixing up RP with OOC since we are beeing attacked by people who give **** about our roleplay - why the heck would you expect us, to stay roleplay compliant against them? i mean, in theory - occ wise - it would absolutely be ok to fusion with CVA for a full scale counter attack on your bloody corp of thiefs however, as the public can whitness - cva is just proceeding their anti-pirate operation they always did and they also shoot our pilots if we cross their path. this has not changed since we are there. i interpret this as whining engineered by the losing end of this conflict. if the pirates would stick to proper roleplay, they would never manage to muster the numbers they brought up in the past weeks. NEVER. proof me wrong. until then shut the ____ up about us uniting with the traditional roleplay enemy in an OOC forum, because everytime you attempt that you shoot yourself into the foot - and your foot looks already nasty since a while, trust me. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Cloud Alexander Nubs.	Posted - 2006.09.13 03:29:00 - [88] ebil scammers!
Melinda Lioncourt	Posted - 2006.09.13 04:56:00 - [89] Originally by: Cloud Alexander ebil scammers! lol nice bump, page two not doing it for ya Oh the intrigue, just who is this Taznaman anyway and why did she do it? Oh it's killing me And Verone, not sure if you remember that night in Jita ... I think we need to talk!
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.14 09:37:00 - [90] Originally by: YesI'dLoveTo It seems to me that according to the killboards and talk that ISS is doing all the fighting for UK. And ISS has even said that they will take the outpost from UK if the pirates manage to get close to taking it. This gets me to wounder if this aint all a dark plan from ISS to get a free outpost with out major smack and complications on forums and ingame.. Now they have a "just" cause to take the outpost from UK with no one asking questions except UK that is left on the side lines. a) bull**** b) hijack d) weak attempt to divide allies in a war The unity council, and the ISS leadership have a good relation of honesty and honour. So your words will have no effect on the morale of our troops. Your Killboard assements are worth about one or two isk maximum because: a) no references given b) you dont have access to the ushra'khan killboard, no one outside ushra'khan has - and it will remained to be closed. Thank you very much for the comedian input. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting [gre

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