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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.10 16:41:00 -
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Its a terrible time to try and get Bookmarks for instas since the patch. But if you dont have them you have a big disadvantage compared to other players.
I hope Kali gets here soon to maybe fix the problem but at least level the playing field.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.10 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/09/2006 16:49:48
They should just give everybody bookmarks to avoid the copying... im a genius. :)
By the way, I havent heard anything about Kali affecting bookmarks...
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.09.10 17:01:00 -
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Kali cures cancer and AIDS too! --*=*=*--
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden
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Posted - 2006.09.10 17:14:00 -
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With Kali also no more starving on earth and peace will be bringed to all people fighting around.
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Nerf Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.10 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy Kali cures cancer and AIDS too!
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Roulette
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.10 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Roulette on 10/09/2006 17:43:41
Originally by: Ghoest Its a terrible time to try and get Bookmarks for instas since the patch. But if you dont have them you have a big disadvantage compared to other players.
I hope Kali gets here soon to maybe fix the problem but at least level the playing field.
how, exactly, is the patch keeping you from creating bookmarks?
I've had no problem making my instas.
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Ghoesttic
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:48:00 -
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I can make them sure. But I cant get them transfered to me from corp mates.
Making book marks in a lot of regions now is prohibtivly dangerous.
Im pretty sure that one Dev said that the bookmark system is being replaced with something new - along with exploration.
If not its very unfair to new players.
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Felinuszzz
Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:52:00 -
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I don't care if bookmarks are removed entirely, or nerfed to the point of being obsolete as a travel method.
The only thing that bothers me is that some players have regions and regions of instas, and I don't... I refuse to use them for anything except stations, and also a 52 bookmark set that I have for the pipeline to and from my home system in 0.
I view that as an unfair advantage, but I work around it anyways. --------- |

Pille Dufrais
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Posted - 2006.09.10 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Felinuszzz
The only thing that bothers me is that some players have regions and regions of instas, and I don't... I refuse to use them
I've snipped that a bit
So you choose not to use bookmarks and yet it bothers you that other people make a different choice and use bookmarks?
They made the contacts and got them for free or paid for them and choose to use them, you choose not to. Why then should they all be nerfed or removed? Because you happen not to like them?
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined? |

SIlver Light
Minmatar 5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.10 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pille Dufrais To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
Yes please, that'd make the POS industry so overly profitable that it wouldn't be funny. We'd have whinge threads about how all us POS owners are isk whoring gits and that we should be nerfed. Make a change to rabble rabble more T2 BPOs rabble rabble. ------ Proud Member of 5punkorp |

Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.10 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Pille Dufrais
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
NO
Substancial game changes that permanetly effect all new player and no old ones are bad - I have seen it hurt other MMOs.
THe BPO comparision is not valid - they are purposeful construct of the game design that benifit only small portion of the old players. They basically turn some players into game elements.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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El'Tar
Caldari Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.11 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Pille Dufrais
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
NO
Substancial game changes that permanetly effect all new player and no old ones are bad - I have seen it hurt other MMOs.
THe BPO comparision is not valid - they are purposeful construct of the game design that benifit only small portion of the old players. They basically turn some players into game elements.
/agreed
Take DAoC as an example... How many 20- lvls play that game? none i tell u. Its ruining the game, and thats what this bookmark/newbie nerf is doing. The greater distance between Vet/noob, the worse the game imo.
Proud citizen of ASCN
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Baleorg
Gallente Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.09.11 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn With Kali also no more starving on earth and peace will be bringed to all people fighting around.
whot? they remove war?
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Pille Dufrais
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Posted - 2006.09.11 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Pille Dufrais
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
NO
Substancial game changes that permanetly effect all new player and no old ones are bad - I have seen it hurt other MMOs.
THe BPO comparision is not valid - they are purposeful construct of the game design that benifit only small portion of the old players. They basically turn some players into game elements.
Well done - you entirely missed my point.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.11 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Pille Dufrais
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
NO
Substancial game changes that permanetly effect all new player and no old ones are bad - I have seen it hurt other MMOs.
That hasn't stopped CCP yet. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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CasioJones
Babylon Clone Services Babylon Project
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Posted - 2006.09.11 09:56:00 -
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a bad time to move to 0.0 ?
My other char moved into catch 2 weeks ago , no instas , no bm's. Take the right route & check your maps.. Easy , i didnt feel any disadvantage.
When i arrived i made a couple of instas & safespots.
And as for instas' plenty of them on escrow. It just takes longer to copy - hence the price rise.
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.11 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Pille Dufrais
To the OP - At least try and make some form of cogent argument why they should be removed instead of "nerf, nerf" not fair to new players, lots of things aren't fair to new players - maybe we should all get free T2 BPO's to make up for the ones that were distributed before we joined?
NO
Substancial game changes that permanetly effect all new player and no old ones are bad - I have seen it hurt other MMOs.
THe BPO comparision is not valid - they are purposeful construct of the game design that benifit only small portion of the old players. They basically turn some players into game elements.
well I am an old player, and I have to copy back a 570bm set back for my corp mates. how did the change not affect me differently than a new player ?
Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls.... 
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Nikita Fontaine
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2006.09.11 10:16:00 -
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Dont be lazy go make your own insta's  ----------------------------------------------- Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ
Directors are like buttons they hold things together.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.09.11 10:27:00 -
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Im a lazzy person and i regulary fly afk even trough jockepoints.
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