Who would be an example of the very few who've succeeded in a war against gankers? And by what did you measure "success"?

Sounds to me you are just another carebear hoping to constantly petition gankers to have them permabanned.

Nice plan though as CCP Falcon says, why should CCP (concord) protect you.

This so called war (tearfest) would also be a very very slippery slope to go down, considering the amount of RL threats etc we get from gank victims.

Though more power to you and im sure this time it will work, surely one out 200 attempts has too right?

Best of luck with your war, OP! Many have tried, and very few have succeeded.

For the style of warfare you're plotting, you really need to bone up on your storytelling though. You've got to grab the attention of your audience early, and hang on to it with interesting content. Be approachable, interesting, and personable.

That's the reason James slices chatlogs up into manageable chunks. Ain't nobody got time to read a pastebin chatlog, so you gotta be good at sniffing out the most entertaining bits to present to your audience. Classy humor also helps out a BUNCH.

Beating code is not a function because they always win

. They want toake pve risky in highsec.

What is a toake?

to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.

to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.

to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.

tldr.

https://soundcloud.com/loyalanon/veers-tears-1

remember this? and you rage logged?

Interesting. And if that is their main goal, I would agree that in regards to ISK, it seems business as usual. To play on words... the spice flows.

But... if their goal is to change mind sets, to make players stay at the keyboard, to have miners tank their ships, then I'd say that they have had an impact on Hi-Sec.... not complete. There is still more than a few fools out there running multi billion cargo through Uedama AFK, but there are also a few that have learned the lesson after getting their fingers burnt.

And there is also one more reason that does not include ISK or changing players habits... some people just like to see the world burn, and there is more than a few systems burning in EVE.

I remember tearing up

Me too, it was glorious.

Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition.

I just want to Salute James 315 for sending in VEERS...

Once they get a good dose of Veers this new rebel leader will be come running to code just as I did.


Now who wants to help me catch Veers and put him back in the barn?

tldr.

https://soundcloud.com/loyalanon/veers-tears-1

remember this? and you rage logged?

Sounds like he keeps his composure the entire time and enjoyed the debate. But I suppose if I had a sub 90 IQ with severe personality issues I might see this as tears too!

Winning is subjective.

Players can easily win if they:

1. Don't go AFK
2. Watch d-scan
3. Watch local chat
4. Set known CODE members as red.
5. Dock up when you see them in system.
6. Don't sit still in a asteroid belt or stay at 0 on your mission gates.
7. Don't be a douche.

Of course, this is what CODE has been trying to educate players on for years.

Winning is subjective.

Players can easily win if they:

1. Don't go AFK
2. Watch d-scan
3. Watch local chat
4. Set known CODE members as red.
5. Dock up when you see them in system.
6. Don't sit still in a asteroid belt or stay at 0 on your mission gates.
7. Don't be a douche.

Of course, this is what CODE has been trying to educate players on for years.

I get tired of C&P being filled with at least the majority of CODE. stuff. I'd like to see more content creator


I like the fact you guys can lead such a large player base in Highsec. I like most of the content you provide the ganks and such. But I am personally rather burnt out from it thats all.

CODE. Makes a great Villain, which EVE needs. So you get my support by that alone.


CODE is interesting. But to much of it can be mildly annoying. Rather see CODE post then Veer or Lucas posts though.

Winning is subjective.

Players can easily win if they:

1. Don't go AFK
2. Watch d-scan
3. Watch local chat
4. Set known CODE members as red.
5. Dock up when you see them in system.
6. Don't sit still in a asteroid belt or stay at 0 on your mission gates.
7. Don't be a douche.

Of course, this is what CODE has been trying to educate players on for years.

These are entirely unreasonable to those that want to push a button to get free money.