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Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 138	Posted - 2015.01.01 02:57:54 - [121] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: Winning is subjective. Players can easily win if they: 1. Don't go AFK 2. Watch d-scan 3. Watch local chat 4. Set known CODE members as red. 5. Dock up when you see them in system. 6. Don't sit still in a asteroid belt or stay at 0 on your mission gates. 7. Don't be a douche. Of course, this is what CODE has been trying to educate players on for years. Not worth the effort....too low of a probability of getting ganked to justify dscanning Tell that to the thousands of angry carebears who get exploded on a daily basis. Oh...wait, no need to tell them..they won't do it anyways. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 138	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:19:00 - [122] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: I just want to Salute James 315 for sending in VEERS... Once they get a good dose of Veers this new rebel leader will be come running to code just as I did. Now who wants to help me catch Veers and put him back in the barn? Yawn....grr veers detected. Not to disappoint, but code doesnt have the bandwith to hunt me down and gank me. I suppose your ability to get on 57 concord killmails in a single day could change the equation. But yes, running missions and incursions is still super safe, which means the good guys are winning. Who are the "good" guys Veers...you? That's a matter of opinion and I can assure you the majority of opinion is it is not you. Ask yourself, who is the real cancer of Eve..Those who engage in the very thing the game is all about; emergent gameplay, social interaction, exploding spaceships, vying for economic and military control..etc...or is the ones who go to Mexican restaurant and demand Itallian food, claiming it is their right because they are "paying customers". The true "good" and "bad" guys are subjective. Eve is what it is, many play this ti its maximum...while other whine that Eve is not what they want it to be and cry for change. If you want Itallian, go to an italian restaurant..if you want Eve, meaning explosions, criminals, pvp, risk...then you've come to the right place. After all Veers...opinions are like, well, you know...everyone's got one..and they all stink... If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 96	Posted - 2015.01.01 09:06:48 - [123] - Quote Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous.....
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 850	Posted - 2015.01.01 09:08:48 - [124] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... *Thread locked.* The Rules: *5. Trolling is prohibited.* Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that a person who CCP does not promote in anyway nor is attempting to represent them. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 143	Posted - 2015.01.01 09:10:02 - [125] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... Like you wouldn't believe...lol If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 143	Posted - 2015.01.01 09:12:06 - [126] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... *Thread locked.* The Rules: *5. Trolling is prohibited.* Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that a person who CCP does not promote in anyway nor is attempting to represent them. Oh shush AC..let the man speak of his Veers silencing..hehehehe If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11054	Posted - 2015.01.01 11:31:19 - [127] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... Good Lord, I think I actually started salivating... "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 422	Posted - 2015.01.01 13:46:49 - [128] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... Absolutely. You were secretly a CODE sympathizer the ENTIRE time...I immediately identified you as a Benedict Arnold, but could not speak up because of your position. Not to mention a complete inability to grasp my actual proposal vis-a-vis bumping. Anyhow...what other accomplishments did you have? Wildly incompetent stewardship of AG fleets with a less than 1% success rate? Whoring on thousands of CONCORD killmails for who knows what reason? Running a confused blog that only served to make code look good? Rila, if you didn't exist, code would need to have invented you...you were always the perfect opponent for them, a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 97	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:05:26 - [129] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Would ya like to know my BEST day in AG??? The day I gagged Veers. I know your ALL jealous..... Absolutely. You were secretly a CODE sympathizer the ENTIRE time...I immediately identified you as a Benedict Arnold, but could not speak up because of your position. Not to mention a complete inability to grasp my actual proposal vis-a-vis bumping. Anyhow...what other accomplishments did you have? Wildly incompetent stewardship of AG fleets with a less than 1% success rate? Whoring on thousands of CONCORD killmails for who knows what reason? Running a confused blog that only served to make code look good? Rila, if you didn't exist, code would need to have invented you...you were always the perfect opponent for them, a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary. lolololol he sounds mad ..Veers, Ill say this, I did a hellva lot more than you ever have. I dont think hee hawing loudly at ppl & CCP is playing EVE. I guess that's what you consider ELITE BRAYING...er i mean PVE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 423	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:11:03 - [130] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: lolololol he sounds mad ..Veers, Ill say this, I did a hellva lot more than you ever have. I dont think hee hawing loudly at ppl & CCP is playing EVE. I guess that's what you consider ELITE BRAYING...er i mean PVE. No, I feel vindicated as usual. Within a few minutes of meeting you I properly identified you as a turncoat. My judgment remains incredibly sharp and utterly correct. You did nothing for AG...all you did was justify "the code always wins" slogan. Not once did you materially impact the operations of code...all you did was provide them with entertainment, easy victories, and content. They loved you. They really don't love me....I provide them no victories and no entertainment...just endless frustration that someone can eloquently stand up for highsec PvE players on the foums. That's how you beat code...not by blowing up their gank catalysts that are going to die anyway.
Jerry T Pepridge Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC. 275	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:13:39 - [131] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: ololol he sounds mad ..Veers, Ill say this, I did a hellva lot more than you ever have. I dont think hee hawing loudly at ppl & CCP is playing EVE. I guess that's what you consider ELITE BRAYING...er i mean PVE. do you feel "cool" now that your a "ganker", turncoat.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 97	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:20:39 - [132] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: lolololol he sounds mad ..Veers, Ill say this, I did a hellva lot more than you ever have. I dont think hee hawing loudly at ppl & CCP is playing EVE. I guess that's what you consider ELITE BRAYING...er i mean PVE. No, I feel vindicated as usual. Within a few minutes of meeting you I properly identified you as a turncoat. My judgment remains incredibly sharp and utterly correct. You did nothing for AG...all you did was justify "the code always wins" slogan. Not once did you materially impact the operations of code...all you did was provide them with entertainment, easy victories, and content. They loved you. They really don't love me....I provide them no victories and no entertainment...just endless frustration that someone can eloquently stand up for highsec PvE players on the foums. That's how you beat code...not by blowing up their gank catalysts that are going to die anyway. Veers, in my time playing eve, i have run missions, tried mining for 15 mins (hated it) lived in low, lived in null, lived in a wh, done exploration, run incursions, fought with Goons against TEST, Fought code and now I'm fighting WITH code. I've played the game and enjoyed every min. And along the way Ive made several friends who I enjoy playing the game with. What have you done? Run Incursions and run your mouth. That's IT. Next?.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 97	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:34:51 - [133] - Quote One last thing. If I am "a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary." Why don't YOU step up Veers.Lets see you lead AG to VICTORY. In other words, try putting up or try shutting up. It's wide open veers. Do something other than talk. Sadly I suspect all Veers will do is bray LOUDLY at more people. Excuses from Veers incoming!
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 423	Posted - 2015.01.01 14:53:06 - [134] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: One last thing. If I am "a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary." Why don't YOU step up Veers.Lets see you lead AG to VICTORY. In other words, try putting up or try shutting up. It's wide open veers. Do something other than talk. Sadly I suspect all Veers will do is bray LOUDLY at more people. Excuses from Veers incoming! The game mechanics overwhelmingly favor CODE. There is no point in playing whiteknight just to lose over and over again. Until CCP changes the mechanics to make it possible for whiteknights to actually harm CODE, it would be stupid and pointless to try and stop their ganking. A smart man only acts when the benefits of doing so outweigh the costs, otherwise the status quo ante is preferable. I'm certainly far too competent to spend my valuable time tilting at windmills.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 97	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:06:14 - [135] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: One last thing. If I am "a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary." Why don't YOU step up Veers.Lets see you lead AG to VICTORY. In other words, try putting up or try shutting up. It's wide open veers. Do something other than talk. Sadly I suspect all Veers will do is bray LOUDLY at more people. Excuses from Veers incoming! The game mechanics overwhelmingly favor CODE. There is no point in playing whiteknight just to lose over and over again. Until CCP changes the mechanics to make it possible for whiteknights to actually harm CODE, it would be stupid and pointless to try and stop their ganking. A smart man only acts when the benefits of doing so outweigh the costs, otherwise the status quo ante is preferable. I'm certainly far too competent to spend my valuable time tilting at windmills. As I expected veers, more excuses as to why you wont do anything but bray at CCP and code to make yourself seem relevant.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 125	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:08:54 - [136] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Lazy and AFK players mean that the game mechanics overwhelmingly favor CODE. There is no point in playing whiteknight just to lose over and over again because gankers are usually far more familiar with game mechanics than most white knights are . Until CCP changes the mechanics to make it possible for whiteknights to actually harm CODE without expending effort, it would be stupid and pointless to try and stop their ganking. FTFY Quote: A smart man only acts when the benefits of doing so outweigh the costs, otherwise the status quo ante is preferable. I'm certainly far too competent to spend my valuable time tilting at windmills. Yet you seem to spend most of your time proving exactly how incompetent you are by tilting at the very windmills you claim not to be tilting at. You're not the smart man you think you are. CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~ NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 423	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:22:32 - [137] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Lazy and AFK players mean that the game mechanics overwhelmingly favor CODE. There is no point in playing whiteknight just to lose over and over again because gankers are usually far more familiar with game mechanics than most white knights are . Until CCP changes the mechanics to make it possible for whiteknights to actually harm CODE without expending effort, it would be stupid and pointless to try and stop their ganking. FTFY Quote: A smart man only acts when the benefits of doing so outweigh the costs, otherwise the status quo ante is preferable. I'm certainly far too competent to spend my valuable time tilting at windmills. Yet you seem to spend most of your time proving exactly how incompetent you are by tilting at the very windmills you claim not to be tilting at. You're not the smart man you think you are. and failing to get it.....the mechanics are broken, they favor the gankers. 30 guys in 3 mil isk catalysts can blow up a 5 bil isk jump freighter. The punishment for doing so? loss of ship and a 15 minute timeout. That's a fundamentally broken criminal justice system. And the most the AG folks can do is blow up the catalysts. There is no way to compel gankers to undock in expensive ships and put significant isk at risk. There is no way to arrest and convict gankers and sentence them to months or years in eve jails. To wit, there is no way to materially harm the gankers. I have never really tried to play whiteknight...and i would encourage all others to not do so until the mechanics are changed to force gankers to put significant assets at risk when ganking. Until then, don't bother trying, you will never win.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 97	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:30:12 - [138] - Quote Can you imagine Veers horror if he were to play GTA?? Its rather simple, he fails to GET EVE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 424	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:36:54 - [139] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Can you imagine Veers horror if he were to play GTA?? Its rather simple, he fails to GET EVE. Shrug...I play world of tanks all the time. I have no problem with violence in a game built around consequence free violence. What I do oppose is the lack of real consequences for suicide ganking in highsec which can destroy months of hard work in a few seconds. That's a major imbalance that is screaming out for a fix. There is no reason for concord punishments to be restricted to 15 minute timeouts.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 126	Posted - 2015.01.01 15:39:04 - [140] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: and failing to get it.....the mechanics are broken, they favor the gankers. What favors the gankers is that they're prepared to work together and know how the mechanics work, unlike their victims for the most part. The mechanics aren't broken, it's the inability of their victims to understand and utilise the mechanics to their advantage that is broken. Quote: 30 guys in 3 mil isk catalysts can blow up a 5 bil isk jump freighter. Why is this a bad thing? The efforts of multiple players usually outweigh the efforts of a single player, it's a little thing called teamwork. Quote: The punishment for doing so? loss of ship and a 15 minute timeout. That's a fundamentally broken criminal justice system. And the most the AG folks can do is blow up the catalysts. There is no way to compel gankers to undock in expensive ships and put significant isk at risk. There is no way to arrest and convict gankers and sentence them to months or years in eve jails. It's a game, not the real world. They are destroying pixels not physical items, as such the punishment matches the crime. Quote: To wit, there is no way to materially harm the gankers. I have never really tried to play whiteknight...and i would encourage all others to not do so until the mechanics are changed to force gankers to put significant assets at risk when ganking. Until then, don't bother trying, you will never win. TL;DR you've got no idea what you're talking about and want CCP to change the mechanics so that gankers can be materially harmed without expending any effort. FYI there are many ways to hit gankers in the wallet, fortunately for the gankers they require effort to achieve. CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~ NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 855	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:01:57 - [141] - Quote Veer you are wrong. This is a basic pillar of this game. Please go be wrong elsewhere. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 424	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:06:41 - [142] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veer you are wrong. This is a basic pillar of this game. Please go be wrong elsewhere. Nah, I'd rather continue to be right, as always, in this game. The code folks wishing me away ain't gonna make it so. Every day highsec PvE players are able to accumulate isk without permits and with minimal risk, is just another day where code keeps on losing. That's why we don't need a "war on gankers" like OP wants...we just need to continue on doing our thing.
Leto Thule Obsidian Cadre 1835	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:08:53 - [143] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Veer you are wrong. This is a basic pillar of this game. Please go be wrong elsewhere. Nah, I'd rather continue to be right, as always, in this game. The code folks wishing me away ain't gonna make it so. Every day highsec PvE players are able to accumulate isk without permits and with minimal risk, is just another day where code keeps on losing. That's why we don't need a "war on gankers" like OP wants...we just need to continue on doing our thing. Please stop feeding Veers. Isnt it obvious that anyone who thinks they are right 100% of the time is likely just trolling? Even someone who disagrees with an opposing viewpoint can admit they aren't perfect. He's spent the past several months turning every single thread into his own. Don't feed!! Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 424	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:11:08 - [144] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Veer you are wrong. This is a basic pillar of this game. Please go be wrong elsewhere. Nah, I'd rather continue to be right, as always, in this game. The code folks wishing me away ain't gonna make it so. Every day highsec PvE players are able to accumulate isk without permits and with minimal risk, is just another day where code keeps on losing. That's why we don't need a "war on gankers" like OP wants...we just need to continue on doing our thing. Please stop feeding Veers. Isnt it obvious that anyone who thinks they are right 100% of the time is likely just trolling? Even someone who disagrees with an opposing viewpoint can admit they aren't perfect. He's spent the past several months turning every single thread into his own. Don't feed!! +1...the whole Grrr Veers is getting boring. State your opinion, and feel free to disagree with what others say. But do it respectfully, and in compliance with forum rules, and don't engage in personal attacks. Stop focusing on the poster, and focus on the IDEAS. And if you can't do that respectfully, just zip it and move on.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 145	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:28:45 - [145] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: One last thing. If I am "a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary." Why don't YOU step up Veers.Lets see you lead AG to VICTORY. In other words, try putting up or try shutting up. It's wide open veers. Do something other than talk. Sadly I suspect all Veers will do is bray LOUDLY at more people. Excuses from Veers incoming! That sent chills through me...lol..I have been saying the same thing all along..step up or shut up. If you don't have the fortitude to take in game actions, you don't have a right to complain about them. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 145	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:31:17 - [146] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: One last thing. If I am "a perennial loser who would lead AG to defeat DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. I mean, code couldn't have paid you to be a more incompetent adversary." Why don't YOU step up Veers.Lets see you lead AG to VICTORY. In other words, try putting up or try shutting up. It's wide open veers. Do something other than talk. Sadly I suspect all Veers will do is bray LOUDLY at more people. Excuses from Veers incoming! The game mechanics overwhelmingly favor CODE. There is no point in playing whiteknight just to lose over and over again. Until CCP changes the mechanics to make it possible for whiteknights to actually harm CODE, it would be stupid and pointless to try and stop their ganking. A smart man only acts when the benefits of doing so outweigh the costs, otherwise the status quo ante is preferable. I'm certainly far too competent to spend my valuable time tilting at windmills. No...a coward only acts when he knows he has the advantage and there isno risk of loss. Since you cannot "die" for real in a game, this says a lot. Your logic is flawed and does not apply to a virtual world. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 424	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:36:36 - [147] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: No...a coward only acts when he knows he has the advantage and there isno risk of loss. Since you cannot "die" for real in a game, this says a lot. Your logic is flawed and does not apply to a virtual world. Misconstruing the point. There is nothing to prove in Eve...it is a game. You should do what you enjoy doing. Constantly failing to stop code is not enjoyable. Hence, if there is no chance of success, the proper course is to not try.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 145	Posted - 2015.01.02 00:38:57 - [148] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: No...a coward only acts when he knows he has the advantage and there isno risk of loss. Since you cannot "die" for real in a game, this says a lot. Your logic is flawed and does not apply to a virtual world. Misconstruing the point. There is nothing to prove in Eve...it is a game. You should do what you enjoy doing. Constantly failing to stop code is not enjoyable. Hence, if there is no chance of success, the proper course is to not try. Exactly...so what's the problem? Besides, if there's nothing to prove...why all the hooplah on the forums? If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 856	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:13:23 - [149] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: No...a coward only acts when he knows he has the advantage and there isno risk of loss. Since you cannot "die" for real in a game, this says a lot. Your logic is flawed and does not apply to a virtual world. Misconstruing the point. There is nothing to prove in Eve...it is a game. You should do what you enjoy doing. Constantly failing to stop code is not enjoyable. Hence, if there is no chance of success, the proper course is to not try. I proved in EVE that I am, and always will be, better than you. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Ryuu Towryk Perkone Caldari State 38	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:38:02 - [150] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: No...a coward only acts when he knows he has the advantage and there isno risk of loss. Since you cannot "die" for real in a game, this says a lot. Your logic is flawed and does not apply to a virtual world. Misconstruing the point. There is nothing to prove in Eve...it is a game. You should do what you enjoy doing. Constantly failing to stop code is not enjoyable. Hence, if there is no chance of success, the proper course is to not try. I proved in EVE that I am, and always will be, better than you. Here's a cookie.

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