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LeillaRinn	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:44:00 - [1] Today I was running a mission with a single jump into lowsec. I managed to evade a Morsus Mihi camp consisting of a Dominix, Megathron, 2 Feroxes and some roaming support in Nalvula system. After completing the mission, I offered two of the pilots paying a ransom for my cruiser's safe passage. The Megathron pilot completely ignored me, as he assumed his age ingame has anything to do with how he can treat young characters like myself. I swollowed that without any problems, as it seems to be a common attitute amongst the "vets" these days... The other pilot, BROOL, accepted the offer and agreed on safe passage to the highsec system next door. You can see this happen in here. Surprisingly the pilot cared nothing about his alliance reputation and decided to disregard his promise of safe passage, as you can see above from the "ship" I'm flying. you can see the local chat afterwards here and here. As you can see, the offender refunded the ransom, but the stain remains. Of course, I care not about the loss of a Caracal, as it is by all means a part of the game, and I know a lot of extremely cool pirates, who are honourable enough to respect ransoms; but from an alliance member, this kind of behaviour is unexpected for me and I'm sure many will agree. Please comment on this, but I ask you all not to turn this post into an alliance throat slitting butchery.
LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:45:00 - [2] Originally by: LeillaRinn Sorry, alt post
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:46:00 - [3] Low. But Morsus Mihi have never had a very good rep from memory, not exactly a lot to protect. KIA Piccys
hUssmann Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:50:00 - [4] Lame. Nothing more to say. ___________________________ Free wigs/hair for caldari baldies, Now in Watermelon red!
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:51:00 - [5] Edited by: Al Haquis on 13/09/2006 15:51:45 I LOVE BOB. With love from Al Haquis * Sorry could not resist :)
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:55:00 - [6] They enjoy sniper camping the M-O gate in Taisy; something I find hilarious considering they camp the Taisy gate in M-O at the same time, basically scaring away their targets and loot before they can enter 0.0 -----
MellaRinn Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.13 15:55:00 - [7] Edited by: MellaRinn on 13/09/2006 15:55:21 can one get any lower than ridiculing ransoms? meh... even us pirates don't do that :P EDIT: wowzorz! you have my surname!!! \o/ Click
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:05:00 - [8] Contact me ingame please. I don't see why our members should attack you in low sec space for and would like to get in touch. you'll never jump alone
Anthony Cash Amarr Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:06:00 - [9] Tards.
Dumus Amarr Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:08:00 - [10] Sorry for you lilla, lamers are an unfortunate part of the game. ---------------------------

Soul Raven Caldari Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:17:00 - [11] Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too
Tieger Gallente FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:19:00 - [12] Selling the honor and respect they have achieved whit 2 million isk? Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Talthrus Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:21:00 - [13] Edited by: Talthrus on 13/09/2006 16:21:17 Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too This isn't the roleplaying forum buddy. ----------------------
LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:22:00 - [14] Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too who the heck is TCF?
Vegas Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:31:00 - [15] You can contact the CEO's of the corps involved. No need for a post to give our local forum hero's something to beat there chest's about -------------------------------------------- Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned. Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too What? The second post is the guy in the screeny. I guess that is his main, or at the very least has the right to post here. And that is quite lame sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris Pink is overrated, yellow is the new pink - Xorus XORUS!!1 HEATHEN KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL - Immy
Sutter Kane Caldari Zombie Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.13 16:56:00 - [17] Edited by: Sutter Kane on 13/09/2006 16:59:00 Well before ewen "pirates" did respect honour, nice to see a whole aliance that say theyr pirates and are then nothing but a bunch of fgt's and lamers, GG to holdin up the word for pirates dudes, you realy sold it low. And how funny are those guys "Soul Raven Caldari Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi" Only thing you care about is if he post with alt or not, you dont ewen try to cool down the heat do you, your a shame to some ppl that try to live the way in eve as "pirates" Go crowl under the rock you came from m8
ZePequerio Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.13 17:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too We don't need alts to say how lame you are.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.13 17:24:00 - [19] IT ALL TCF FAULT ZEY KILL TEH MORSUSMIHI AND THEN MORSUSMIHIHI KILL SOLO CARACALZ FRENCHIEZ ARE DE EVIL Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Malinaria Rebirth Inc. Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.13 17:28:00 - [20] Sorry we drive these guys nuts --------------------- Savior of Santa Crash

LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.13 17:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Malinaria Sorry we drive these guys nuts Ah, Tau Ceti Federation = TCF, sorry - not really versed in all the alliances around... :) anyway, this is not an altpost, the second poster is me, the first poster is the buggy forum making my alt default @.@ I am now in contact with hirr representative.
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2006.09.13 18:45:00 - [22] Edited by: MrMann on 13/09/2006 18:45:36 OFFICIAL BASTAGE-O-GRAM First off, Bastage, Inc. doesn't not approve the actions taken by the specific pilots involved. Secondly, we are very disturbed that other pilots seem to be killing neutrals in low sec Lonetrek. Murdering these folks is wrong. THAT'S OUR JOB DARNIT!! So as to your death, we approve. Taisy, Jan, and Navula are now closed to unallied traffic until further notice. As to the facts surrounding your death, well we would have handled it differently. I'd suggest contacting M.M. Leadership. Also, I'd suggest staying out of the area until the M.M. vs. TCF thing calms down . . . or at least have the decency to bring good loot <ahem> I mean donations to the Tribute Orphans Fund - Bastage, Inc., Treas. Don't judge a group by the actions of specific low ranking players, just by thier leadership . . . well except for BoB . . . <snicker> They're ebil. Stay out of Low Sec. Lonetrek! The loot you save may just be your own! _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.
Xendie Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.09.13 18:58:00 - [23] Originally by: KIAEddZ Low. But Morsus Mihi have never had a very good rep from memory, not exactly a lot to protect. wow! a KIA member and none theless their leader saying that going back on their word is low. the sarcasmo meter shot through the roof now. i just wonder how you can think it is low when you yourself defended your own members when they went back on their word. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.13 19:22:00 - [24] Edited by: Murukan on 13/09/2006 19:23:19 Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too Heh try and bury the post eh? In rust we trust!!!
Kilo Paskaa Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.13 19:25:00 - [25] Meh... That sucks mate
Idaeus Gallente Earned In Blood	Posted - 2006.09.13 19:45:00 - [26] Ick. Please don't think that the rest of us don't respect ransoms. We're trying to make an honest living, just like everyone else, and the trust factor is integral to that. +IOI?
Arii Smith	Posted - 2006.09.13 20:35:00 - [27] Piracy is hardly an honest living... But it sure is more fun than mining!
Ben Booley The Dark Side of the Moon	Posted - 2006.09.13 20:45:00 - [28] Originally by: MrMann OFFICIAL BASTAGE-O-GRAM First off, Bastage, Inc. does not approve the actions taken by the specific pilots involved. Secondly, we are very disturbed that other pilots seem to be killing neutrals in low sec Lonetrek. Murdering these folks is wrong. THAT'S OUR JOB DARNIT!! So as to your death, we approve. Taisy, Jan, and Navula are now closed to unallied traffic until further notice. As to the facts surrounding your death, well we would have handled it differently. I'd suggest contacting M.M. Leadership. Also, I'd suggest staying out of the area until the M.M. vs. TCF thing calms down . . . or at least have the decency to bring good loot <ahem> I mean donations to the Tribute Orphans Fund - Bastage, Inc., Treas. Don't judge a group by the actions of specific low ranking players, just by thier leadership . . . well except for BoB . . . <snicker> They're ebil. Stay out of Low Sec. Lonetrek! The loot you save may just be your own! Looks like the decency to bring good loot applies to you and your camps, That wasa nice T2 / Faction fitted apoc we killed the other day. Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions, nothing makes yours seem any different.
Winter QC Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.13 20:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Soul Raven Mods please lock as this character is not siplaying his corp or alliance as per the forums rules. Oh and nice try TCF alt I'd pirate TCF alts too I lol'd. Nice try burying the post.
Richard Villiers Gallente hirr	Posted - 2006.09.13 22:20:00 - [30] On behalf of hirr Corporation I would like to apologize for this act of piracy by our members. Rest assured that this incident will be dealt with and appropriately responded to within our corporation's ranks. Please do contact Xthril Ranger as he requested. Again, I'm very sorry to see this happen. _____ Originally by: Neon Genesis This forum is about opinion, however, you are wrong.

Naim Obeji Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.13 22:52:00 - [31] Personally, I have never ransomed anyone (I do not entertain such requests at all...they are ignored). For the sake of argument, if I did or knew others in my corp or alliance had made an agreement along these lines, I'd respect and honor those agreements. However, as it pertains to the Tribute region, I have been instructed that until further notice, an NBSI policy is in place. If it's neutral or hostile, I kill it. If I can't kill it, it gets away. If it can kill me before I can kill it, I leave. Pretty simple. Nothing personal. In low-sec empire, I only shoot hostiles, known hostile "neutral" alts, and pirate corp members (usually only the ones that are blinky because I'm not big on sec hits). I'm pretty sure my alliance and more corp do not condone piracy of any kind. However, Tribute and the adjoining areas of Lontrek are a warzone. Warzones , at best, are bad places to be.
Naim Obeji Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.13 23:05:00 - [32] Originally by: Ben Booley Originally by: MrMann OFFICIAL BASTAGE-O-GRAM First off, Bastage, Inc. does not approve the actions taken by the specific pilots involved. Secondly, we are very disturbed that other pilots seem to be killing neutrals in low sec Lonetrek. Murdering these folks is wrong. THAT'S OUR JOB DARNIT!! So as to your death, we approve. Taisy, Jan, and Navula are now closed to unallied traffic until further notice. As to the facts surrounding your death, well we would have handled it differently. I'd suggest contacting M.M. Leadership. Also, I'd suggest staying out of the area until the M.M. vs. TCF thing calms down . . . or at least have the decency to bring good loot <ahem> I mean donations to the Tribute Orphans Fund - Bastage, Inc., Treas. Don't judge a group by the actions of specific low ranking players, just by thier leadership . . . well except for BoB . . . <snicker> They're ebil. Stay out of Low Sec. Lonetrek! The loot you save may just be your own! Looks like the decency to bring good loot applies to you and your camps, That wasa nice T2 / Faction fitted apoc we killed the other day. Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions, nothing makes yours seem any different. LOL...
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.14 00:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Ben Booley Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions Yeah, you really sent KD running! Wait a minute...localchat all over Mito shows...KD. Still. Oh well, better luck posting next time --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Ryle Caldari Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.09.14 01:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Idaeus Ick. Please don't think that the rest of us don't respect ransoms. We're trying to make an honest living, just like everyone else, and the trust factor is integral to that. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
GPerson Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.09.14 03:43:00 - [35] Originally by: LeillaRinn As you can see, the offender refunded the ransom, Then what is the problem exactly? ~~~~~~~~~Sig Stuffs Here~~~~~~~~~~ I highly recommend drunken posting.
Ghan Tylous Caldari Infinite Dreams Inc Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.14 06:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Ben Booley Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions, nothing makes yours seem any different. Did I miss something? probably and btw who is invading you? You don't own Mito, so its not an invasion.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.14 07:06:00 - [37] Originally by: GPerson Originally by: LeillaRinn As you can see, the offender refunded the ransom, Then what is the problem exactly? it's more of the fact that they took a ransom then blew him up. He probably wouldn't of warped to the gate if they didn't take the ransom. And ransoms are generally less than what the ship is worth so he probably came out with less isk. In rust we trust!!!
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.09.14 08:03:00 - [38] Originally by: LeillaRinn as it seems to be a common attitute amongst the "vets" these days... i dont like this observation and think its flawed. most true vets (like 3 year old characters) i know are the most helpful in game always giving time to newer players and often helping financially.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.09.14 08:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Ben Booley Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions, nothing makes yours seem any different. this is just and a bit of tbh
Doktor Soet Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.14 08:45:00 - [40] shame on that specific pilot! the pilot acted in a way that is simple not acceptable if u fly under the banner of an honorable alliance. following nbsi to defend ur home and claimed 0.0 space is one thing but nbsi in low sec?!?! well thats piracy i would say. AND paying ransom and then get shoot... thats something very, very embarassing for a pilot. Originally by: Naim Obeji Edited by: Naim Obeji on 13/09/2006 23:11:13 However, as it pertains to the Tribute region, I have been instructed that until further notice, an NBSI policy is in place. If it's neutral or hostile, I kill it. If I can't kill it, it gets away. If it can kill me before I can kill it, I leave. Pretty simple. Nothing personal. In low-sec empire, I only shoot hostiles, known hostile "neutral" alts, and pirate corp members (usually only the ones that are blinky because I'm not big on sec hits). i fully agree with this statement

Iamruss	Posted - 2006.09.14 11:25:00 - [41] I'd just like to add my two cents. Morsus Mihi is a bunch of well-mannered pilots. And I'm sure the actions of this pilot does not reflect the entire Alliance. That is a very un-fair claim and has no substance. Lesson learned for all parties, and I'm sure this type of thing will not happen again.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.14 11:52:00 - [42] Well, at least you now know what people don¦t honour ransoms. LOL, funny; Some MM¦s are like ¿Too bad, contact our CEO¿ and others simply don¦t see a problem with that.Different corps policies among MM, or just pesonal view on the matter? (honestly, I¦m curious, just woke up and my sarcasm powers are low) :S What I hate? -Men in female characters. -More to come.
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2006.09.14 16:31:00 - [43] Edited by: MrMann on 14/09/2006 16:32:17 Originally by: Ben Booley Looks like the decency to bring good loot applies to you and your camps, That wasa nice T2 / Faction fitted apoc we killed the other day. Nalvula and surrounds are ours, and have been for a lot longer than you've been there, we've already beaten off a couple invasions, nothing makes yours seem any different. Yes that was a good fight. We got***y (grrr - stupid censor, okay try "over-confident". Should have been more careful when we saw the Covert Ops ship. Yes, we even saw the probes. But no . . . our CEO simply said "lets get the pirate hauler at the gate. Screw the Dark Side guys MrMann can handle them . . . MrMann you stay behind and cover for us." GRRRRRRRrrrr. He's such a bastage. Anywho . . . We never said our Campaign to Bring Peace and Love to Greater Tribute would be easy. Getting rid of you nasty pirates will be difficult. Thankfully, given our complete lack of morals, we have more tools at our disposal than the previous challangers. And yes, we only carry the best. Well except for Duckk, Millinkoee only lets him use one-ply tissue paper for his armor. _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.**
Naim Obeji Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.14 18:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Rikeka Well, at least you now know what people don¦t honour ransoms. LOL, funny; Some MM¦s are like ¿Too bad, contact our CEO¿ and others simply don¦t see a problem with that.Different corps policies among MM, or just pesonal view on the matter? (honestly, I¦m curious, just woke up and my sarcasm powers are low) :S While still others (and I respectfully submit it is the majority of the alliance in question) do see a problem with it, don't condone it, don't offer ransom or entertaion requests for it, don't pirate, and respect their agreements and those made by their peers (to the extent they are informed of them). Curious that you would leave that out.
Bratack	Posted - 2006.09.14 20:56:00 - [45] Edited by: Bratack on 14/09/2006 20:57:58 Funny how ppl see things that are not there. I see him offering a BRIBE to someone in a private convo. Thats not a ransom. He tried to bribe someone and it did not work. Now if it was a ransom and he did not honor it then shame on him but shame on you for paying it. And if you read the whole thing you would see that it was a setup to begin with. What noob runs around with fraps running and looking for PR issues with others? It was a setup, obviously this person has issues and I dont think that it will stop here.
LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.15 01:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Bratack And if you read the whole thing you would see that it was a setup to begin with. What noob runs around with fraps running and looking for PR issues with others? It was a setup, obviously this person has issues and I dont think that it will stop here. What noob does not realise that Fraps was running after the convo finished to document the screenshots were not photoshopped Also, if you think I was trying to be malicious to some MM people just because I wanted to get out of a system and the offender was right to blow me up after accepting the payment for my passage, you are very wrong and are offending my intelligence. Now, it will stop here because the issue is being addressed by hirr's director. Furthermore, the representative of hirr has handled the matters very well so far without the involvement of fallen pr/forum warriors like yourself who see deception everywhere. I will give an update to the community on how the case finished when it does. NB: perhaps you address your own issues, Bratack, before pointing out the non-existent ones in others. I will not tolerate things like the OP happening just as I will not tolerate people suggesting that me addressing a problem is wrong.
Jimmy Doe Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.09.15 11:23:00 - [47] Edited by: Jimmy Doe on 15/09/2006 11:24:38 1) being that you are a newer player i will let you in on a secret: alts in alt corps lie about who they are. how are they supposed to know that you arent a TCF alt? 2) trust no one, when it comes to low sec and 0.0 trust only yourself and your abilities. if there is a gatecamp then go safe and wait it out or find another way out of the system. 3) stop whining, you got blown up in low sec the guy took a sec status hit and flagged for 15 mins, you have kill rights on him for 30 days and you got your money back. buy a new caracal, wait till you catch him in jita farting around in a frig and kill him. there youre even. 4) i have had nothing but good experiences with M.M. i have had the honor of flying with some of their pilots and safely travel through camps at will. 5) Get standings with them you noob, get your corp set to +, you wont be neut to them and you wont tend to get blownup. You look at me and you laugh at the noob, but look at your wallet and see that insurance the SCC just paid you for your loss
Gozmoth Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.15 12:16:00 - [48] Originally by: Jimmy Doe Edited by: Jimmy Doe on 15/09/2006 11:24:38 1) being that you are a newer player i will let you in on a secret: alts in alt corps lie about who they are. how are they supposed to know that you arent a TCF alt? If you look closely at the ship, you will see baguettes under the wings. Quite easy in fact.
LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.15 12:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Jimmy Doe Pile of fanboi stuff... whatever... since when do people need standings to honour agreements? This is not a shiploss whine post, and don't make it sound like it is. Also, don't you call me a noob. If you are so smart about killrights, you should probably know that a "noob" can't get even within the killrights system unless doing nothing but devoting all their time to finding the target in a smaller ship, preferably in highsec, afk and not stabbed out... Oh, btw, you realise it was a group gank, not a single person 1v1 attack? No? I thought so, so sit quiet... If you have nothing constructive to add to the thread but your fanboi "advice", you are free not to post in here. No one makes you...
Ishtar Amin	Posted - 2006.09.15 17:18:00 - [50] Originally by: Jimmy Doe Edited by: Jimmy Doe on 15/09/2006 11:24:38 4) i have had nothing but good experiences with M.M. i have had the honor of flying with some of their pilots and safely travel through camps at will. So since they don't shoot you, must mean they are saints? And i love how you tell him to get standings. you really think they are going to sit there and setup standings for one person so he can pass their camp? Way to be a ***** retard. TBH the ty part is they tell him one thing so he comes to them, blow him up and then send back the ransom. It's not so much an isk issue as it's just a **ty move to pull.

Vladimir Norkoff Crimson Knights Trade Federation Thundering Mantis	Posted - 2006.09.15 18:24:00 - [51] Edited by: Vladimir Norkoff on 15/09/2006 18:24:40 Originally by: Ishtar Amin TBH the **ty part is they tell him one thing so he comes to them, blow him up and then send back the ransom. It's not so much an isk issue as it's just a ty move to pull. Well that's the M-O gatecamp in a nutshell.. Hell, that's all gatecamps.. Been on both sides of them and they just suck.. If MM really wanted to live up to their claim of "honorable alliance" they'd be doing something more than just NBSI gatecamping unsuspecting noobs.. Unless they've posted one recently, notice that there's no secure anchored can proclaiming "WARNING: Entering Morsus Mihi space, if you do not have positive standings turn back!"** at the Taisy gate.. The reason it is not there is because they DO want to shoot random people who come thru the gate and keep their gear.. Most people who do that are pirates; however for MM it's just "defending their space" (they have good PR agents).. Granted, the best way to defend your space from your enemies (who know exactly where you are) is to lie in wait around a gate and blast unfamiliar people who come thru with no warning whatsoever.. It really is an ingenious plan since TCF would never suspect MM to be camping the M-O gate, and TCF ships and alts would just happily parade thru to act as a shooting gallery for the noble and heroic MM forces of justice.. Good job guys! Keep up the good non-pirate work! applause.. Obviously, my first podding was thanks to the MM gatecamp when their little war had just started.. Hopped thru, saw lots of red (they had just finished off my mates), I asked for a ransom, got no response, cloak timer ran out, and found myself in a clone station.. Wasn't happy about it.. Still bitter? Yup.. But I've accepted that's what the entire game is all about.. That one event pretty much changed my goals in the game from trying to be an upstanding citizen to being a pirate.. And of course it also gave me a deep and abiding dislike for a number of the Northern alliances.. I've subsequently been on the shooting side of gatecamps and have done the same thing to other people.. Probably made other people feel the same way.. Frankly, gatecamps suck.. If you're doing one for security reasons then post a warning.. If you're doing it to pirate and get kills, then at least have the balls to admit it..
Captain Cameltoe Caldari International Brotherhood of Teamsters	Posted - 2006.09.15 18:26:00 - [52] Originally by: ParMizaN And that is quite lame QFT! Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.15 20:08:00 - [53] I'm failing to see how MM are somehow 'evil' for doing something every 0.0 seems to do: Camp their chokepoints and kill all who they don't want in their space. The idea that people need a 'warning can' by a jumpgate to a 0.0 chokepoint just makes me wonder how rapid the run downhill in player quality is accelerating. I knew, before my trial account was up, that jumping into 'hotspots' comes with the high chance of getting blown straight to hell. Maybe I was lucky, but really, complaining that a group is 'not honorable' because they keep their space as intruder free as possible is absurd. *****ing because a few members of an alliance did something against their alliance's policy is absurd. All alliances have people who do that at one time or another. This faintly reminds me of when CONCORD wasn't working, sirmollie posted he was going to reimburse people some evol members ganked, and he got flamed for it. Ultimately, if anyone doesn't like what MM did, then do something about it, go attack them. Blob and gank any ships of theirs and get some 'payback'. Look at those pics, you paid them, got a sacastic 'ok' from them, got blown up, and got refunded since they look to have never intended to let you go, or take a ransom. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
LeillaRinn Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.09.15 21:32:00 - [54] Edited by: LeillaRinn on 15/09/2006 21:32:12 alt posts ftl :S
LillaRinn Caldari Ishukone Transport	Posted - 2006.09.15 21:33:00 - [55] Please lock the thread. The situation has been sorted very upstandingly by the representatives of hirr. Unlike some of the above forum warriors, the concerned party has showed respect towards my issue here and I wish for no more flames in this thread. The community has taken its stance on the matter, which I appreciate. Thank you all for input...
hUssmann Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.15 22:11:00 - [56] Glad this has all been sorted ___________________________ Free wigs for caldari baldies, Now in Watermelon red!

Jacques Archambault Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.15 22:20:00 - [57] Thread locked at the request of the OP. click -Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!



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