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Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:59:42 -
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Zimmer Jones wrote:Would love to see a rorqual only cargohold buff ganglink. And could be the ONE ship in the game with hull rep bonuses. The real mans capship, the hulltanking rorq. Just think, its the only nonracial capship apart from sanchas(nation?). This sort of thing would be a godsend to supers and titans
I actually love the idea of replacing the scanner and tractor bonuses to a link bonus to ships' ore holds that would be usable from within a POS. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:02:40 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:Get rid of the tractor beam and scanner bonuses and accept that it will only be used in a POS. Why should a ship only be used in a POS? If something were meant only for use in a POS, shouldn't it then be a POS module?
..." hey grandpa, yesterday we've used your Cadillac which been sitting in a garage for ages, folks asked to help me, so we been moving stuff from a to b.
Next thing happen a grandpa felt apart under the heart attack, cause it was his beloved car for ages he never unlock"...
People are scared of changes more than stagnation. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:32:31 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Because it can be used to transport to and from a POS. It can also jump and fly to various POSes. Its compression alleviates the need to devote POS CPU to compression. It can also carry POSes in its cargo hold along with indy ships and fuel to set up POSes wherever it will operate. And these POSes can be small, as they don't need to devote CPU to compression. So then it's a big expensive workaround to bypass the CPU requirements of the POS modules.
Tiddle Jr wrote:..." hey grandpa, yesterday we've used your Cadillac which been sitting in a garage for ages, folks asked to help me, so we been moving stuff from a to b.
Next thing happen a grandpa felt apart under the heart attack, cause it was his beloved car for ages he never unlock"... Not a fair comparison. The Cadillac was sitting in the garage unused; these Rorquals are providing fleet bonuses without opening the garage door.
T3 Strategic Shuttle | T3 Flexible Battleship
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:51:26 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:Because it can be used to transport to and from a POS. It can also jump and fly to various POSes. Its compression alleviates the need to devote POS CPU to compression. It can also carry POSes in its cargo hold along with indy ships and fuel to set up POSes wherever it will operate. And these POSes can be small, as they don't need to devote CPU to compression. So then it's a big expensive workaround to bypass the CPU requirements of the POS modules. Tiddle Jr wrote:..." hey grandpa, yesterday we've used your Cadillac which been sitting in a garage for ages, folks asked to help me, so we been moving stuff from a to b.
Next thing happen a grandpa felt apart under the heart attack, cause it was his beloved car for ages he never unlock"... Not a fair comparison. The Cadillac was sitting in the garage unused; these Rorquals are providing fleet bonuses without opening the garage door.
Exactly, why not to undock them more often? |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.05 04:17:38 -
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Amarisen Gream
The ArK's Hammer
ArK Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 08:16:15 -
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On grid boost FTW.
We get that > then let's talk capital ship changes.
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
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Posted - 2015.03.29 04:44:42 -
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I think there are a few interesting things you could do with the Rorqual, and the ideas presented to both expand its use and increase its combat or defensive capability are good ones.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.03.29 05:36:02 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5207164
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Lienzo
Amanuensis
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Posted - 2015.03.29 19:02:58 -
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Someone mentioned the idea of a new class of fighter-sized mining drones for the mining capital. 
But really, getting the Rorq to use its bonuses in a belt is a matter of changing where and how ores are found. It'll mean massive belts, deadspace mechanics governing bookmarks and industrial cynoes. It'd mean new variable d-scan inhibiting mechanics for asteroids, and emitting a warp disruption field around them to make it at least a little fair for the hunters. LINK
Perhaps there could be new mechanics around the new structures to help find more hidden fields.
Survey range bonus? Expand this to the ability to find asteroids. Perhaps the details of asteroids could be anonymized until they are scanned. Only a trained geologist can tell what a rock type is, and even then they have to sometimes pull out the HCl dropper or bring it back to the lab.
Surveying in general could be a timesink replacement, allowing for displacement elsewhere. The lengthier the process, the more worthwhile it is to give industrial ships bonuses to it. The only people training up survey skills now are people who do ship/cargo scanning, a long ignored miniprofession in itself.
Some of the abilities overlap painfully with the Orca. Really, there's no reason for Orcas to not also get a mining drone bonus and a more serious drone bay.
Clone vats really only have any utility in WHs.
Ore compression is really the key ability. Activated in the d-scan shadow of a remote asteroid, a core coupled with the vast storage of the Rorqual should allow a comparatively "nimble" ore hauling ship to carry a vast amount of ore collected on that expedition to some refinery. This is the ability that leverages the cargo storage abilities of an attendant Orca. This won't change so long as pilots can simply warp between a dropoff POS and a bookmark next to an asteroid. Mining ships need a reason to get and stay wherever they are. It should be possible for a solo venture, but investments should have obvious rewards.
A game of cat and mouse should be possible, with the lengthy travel time that ought to be part and parcel of ore extraction. Surely some pirates out there should be keen on the idea of following a miasmos back to its friends, and giving the miasmos pilot a strong reason to train for a blockade runner. Darting from rock to rock might be interesting, and faster even for the Blockade Running as they can open up their MWD by decloaking. However, d-scan shadows, like mobile scan inhibitors, affect both those hidden as well as those who hide. |
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