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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.15 20:08:00 -
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Well most people know that atm hail ammo is a little borked. I'm not saying it should have no penalties (that would be ******* sweet tbh) but having a huge speed nerf on a speed relient race kind makes it useless.
Right now hail only really works if you
A) are in a blob so the target won't have time to capitalize on you moving 30m/s
B) are in a 1600 plate munnin killing non blaster ships
If you look at void ammo, it does have penalties, however it is still quite useable for blaster ships.
Maybe since AC's typically have higher tracking, increase the optimal nerf to 60% like void, and have a tracking penalty too. Then maybe you can add something along the lines of a sig radius penalty also do the say "increased gun recoil making the need to push your shields farther from the ship" or some tosh reason like that.
This will be nice counters to AC's tracking, and on the other hand a counter to Minmatar's typical lower sig radius.
But at the same time it will make hail useable in more situations than the very very select few that exist atm.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.15 20:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Ithildin
-50% Falloff?
That could work too. It would be a pretty harsh penalty on hail, but at the same time vagas using hail too much would be nasty so that would limit that situation. Would give tempests a decent boost too as barrage on the bship lvl isn't that great as it puts you fighting way outside disruption range or lagging way behind the enemy in damage.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.15 21:15:00 -
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Xlop if you want to be extremely narrow minded then by all means go ahead. However just because barrage gives an advantage over void ammo (try not being such a tit and loading null) has nothing to do with hail being borked. And really no **** a someone shooting you from 10km over your blasters optimal is better. That's not the arguement. I would love to see what would happen to a vagabond who loads up hail (in it's current for) and then has a diemos jump come saunter up next to him.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.16 18:38:00 -
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Fix our hail!
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.18 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Odin Quak'or
fit 2 domi nanos... a domi mwd.. and a snake set with teh 8% bonus... and even with 5 guns with hail you go over 3500m/s
just because a faction kit vagabond with pirate implants can do good speed with hail in doesn't mean that the ammo is not borked.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:53:00 -
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Bump for the hail fix please.
And in response to the guy above me yah hail should be compared to void not AM and 800's to nuetrons (which they pale in comparison)
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