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Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:16:39 -
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This is not an IPO, however more of just research on the loaning process in EVE. I trade capitals and have made my isk in this profession. I have about 20bil in working trade capital. At times this capital runs very low when stock is high. Is it still possible in this day and age to ask for a loan without collateral?
Right now I am only trading carriers of all races, and the occasional dread/rorq. I would like to cover all areas of the capital field but am lacking capital.
TLDR: I am asking if there is anyway to get an unsecured loan ranging from 10-50bil. And what is the best way to go about it. I can offer some current inventory as collateral, if it can be released when buyer is found. My inventory constantly changes and as we all know the more isk you have, the easier it is to make more.
Post your comments below, again this is not an IPO so don't call it a scam, nor is it a guide to help me scam, you will be reported. Check out my in-game bio for current stock. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:26:51 -
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Sal Goodman9 wrote: Is it still possible in this day and age to ask for a loan without collateral?
Not a chance with a history of scamming and RMT.
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Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:27:31 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Sal Goodman9 wrote: Is it still possible in this day and age to ask for a loan without collateral? Not a chance with a history of scamming and RMT.
Well thats harsh, since everything was returned....
You of all people should I am a succesful cap trader. Don't know y all the hate |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:30:18 -
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I know you made money trading, but doesn't mean I'd trust you with any ISK. I'm just telling you my opinion and warning others.
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:31:38 -
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Unless the money someone is loaning you is chump change to them, I don't know why anyone would put up the money for a non collateralized loan. |

Sal Goodman9
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:31:45 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:I know you made money trading, but doesn't mean I'd trust you with any ISK. I'm just telling you my opinion and warning others.
I appreciate the honesty, Hope all is well with you <3 |

Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:33:03 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Unless the money someone is loaning you is chump change to them, I don't know why anyone would put up the money for a non collateralized loan.
I agree with you. I really wish CCP would implement some sort of loan contract into game. |

Cheese Crackers
Opportunists Alike
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:56:14 -
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anything more than 2 billion I doubt would ever be filled for non collat, unless you were a well known loaner/borrower with an exceptional history. I would suggest you start saving up for some caps to use as collateral if you wish to try and get a loan of that size or try and make a good turn around from a few small unsecured loans. at the end of the day, no investor is in a rush to loan out isk, especially if the risk is 100% and the return small. |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:05:52 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:I know you made money trading, but doesn't mean I'd trust you with any ISK. I'm just telling you my opinion and warning others. I support Norning of all threads suspect.
TAUTX: Private Bank and Lending
TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
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Droodid
Antec Enterprises
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:12:47 -
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Sal Goodman9 wrote:TLDR: I am asking if there is anyway to get an unsecured loan ranging from 10-50bil.
Unless you're Chribba with a sound business plan, no. |

Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 02:03:53 -
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That's what I thought. Loans are still useless in eve :)
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 04:18:41 -
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would like pledge 20b |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:38:48 -
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Loans are fine, but you can't leverage your old trading reputation without past deeds coming back to haunt you.
Would you loan uncollateralized ISK to someone you barely knew who had done what you did?
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:57:15 -
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Sal Goodman9 wrote:That's what I thought. Loans are still useless in eve :)
Yeah i wonder how that comes ....
at a certain point you surpass the irony level 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:05:49 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:would like pledge 20b just wait, I'm sure well see a seemingly unrelated 10-50bil loan request in the next few days.
TAUTX: Private Bank and Lending
TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
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RAW23
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:49:24 -
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Sal Goodman9 wrote:That's what I thought. Loans are still useless in eve :)
I find them incredibly useful 
Loans are only going to be useless for the individuals who can't secure them.
_There are two types of EVE player: _
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
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Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:25:24 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Loans are fine, but you can't leverage your old trading reputation without past deeds coming back to haunt you.
Would you loan uncollateralized ISK to someone you barely knew who had done what you did?
I personally wouldnt loan any uncollaterized isk to anyone |

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:12:57 -
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what on earth were you thinking, admitting to being naughty in a public then making / using a character of the same name. no imagination?
eve local is a wonderful site, add it to you list of paranoia folks b4 "investing" here :p |

Sal Goodman9
SG Capitals
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:19:56 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:what on earth were you thinking, admitting to being naughty in a public then making / using a character of the same name. no imagination?
eve local is a wonderful site, add it to you list of paranoia folks b4 "investing" here :p
This character has a larger good reputation than bad. But thanks for your advice +20 |

RAW23
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Posted - 2015.01.06 22:15:34 -
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Sal Goodman9 wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:what on earth were you thinking, admitting to being naughty in a public then making / using a character of the same name. no imagination?
eve local is a wonderful site, add it to you list of paranoia folks b4 "investing" here :p This character has a larger good reputation than bad. But thanks for your advice +20
As far as loans are concerned you either have a good reputation or a bad one. Stuff in the plus column doesn't weigh against serious stuff in the minus column.
_There are two types of EVE player: _
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
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