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Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.09.17 02:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Kye Kenshin Lagless fleetbattles? Thats never ever gonna happen. If CCP fixes it so 200vs200 fleet fights are lag free the alliances will bring 300vs300 and get lagged out again then whine again. The players will constantly push the limit on how many they can bring. Unfortunately this man speaks the truth...
Red Ochre	Posted - 2006.09.17 02:45:00 - [32] blasphemy! may your armpits be infested by the fleas from a thousand camels! kali must launch, lag, node crashing, cluster death, system freezes, traffic ques, server crash, client crashes be damned!!!!
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.17 02:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Ithildin Hmm. Someone forgot to think before posting. People adding content != people who work on servers People who work on servers != people who do in game tweaking People who do in game tweaking != people who add content etc. Different departements, different responsibilities, different areas of expertise. Fixing lag and adding contents is NOT mutually exclusive tasks. And somebody else forgot to think that... Decreasing Content Team = More Resources for Performance Team Because we all know throwing more programers at the problem is the key get a clue. --- CCP where are our t2 shield power relays?
Trillian Mcmillan The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:11:00 - [34] Lag is truly ridicilous lately. I dont know what changend. I dont know if its the Dragon code. I dont know if its the 30k players online. And to be honest... i dont care. Please fix it. Im paying you to fix it.
VCBee 756	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:17:00 - [35] I'm going to have to agree with this. Make the game stable. Make fleet battles not a pain in the ass. Fix instas/add a warp-to-at-1KM option. Clean up the code. Don't try to shoehorn new content into a game which is too lagged to have even small gang vs. small gang battles anywhere in the north/northwest sections of the galaxy. Don't try to cram new content into a game that lags you out if there are more than 500 people in the same constellation. Fix the bugs before you add new ones CCP.
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.17 04:42:00 - [36] I've noticed that most lag whiners are usually carebears in jita/rens or alliance dumbasses who engage in 9000 vs 9000 fleet battles and then complain that its laggy. Its also these damn alliances that are clogging up the reimbursment queue by petitioning every damn lag lost ship in their stupid fleet battles. At least im not bitter though. ===============================================
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.17 04:54:00 - [37] Originally by: Scoundrelus I've noticed that most lag whiners are usually carebears in jita/rens or alliance dumbasses who engage in 9000 vs 9000 fleet battles and then complain that its laggy. Its also these damn alliances that are clogging up the reimbursment queue by petitioning every damn lag lost ship in their stupid fleet battles. At least im not bitter though. QFT!
Daktor The Galactic Trade Federation	Posted - 2006.09.17 05:09:00 - [38] Originally by: AeausAnd somebody else forgot to think that... Decreasing Content Team = More Resources for Performance Team[/quote It's obvious you aren't in software development. I suggest you read "The Mythical Man Month". Adding resources doesn't always increase productivity, and sometimes increases it. For example, 1 woman takes 9 months to produce a child. So 9 women should be able to do it in 1 month, right?
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.17 05:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Ithildin Hmm. Someone forgot to think before posting. People adding content != people who work on servers People who work on servers != people who do in game tweaking People who do in game tweaking != people who add content etc. Different departements, different responsibilities, different areas of expertise. Fixing lag and adding contents is NOT mutually exclusive tasks. And somebody else forgot to think that... Decreasing Content Team = More Resources for Performance Team You assume CCP is at some sort of 'cap' for staff they can hire, and that is why your post fails. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.17 05:16:00 - [40] Originally by: Scoundrelus I've noticed that most lag whiners are usually carebears in jita/rens or alliance dumbasses who engage in 9000 vs 9000 fleet battles and then complain that its laggy. Its also these damn alliances that are clogging up the reimbursment queue by petitioning every damn lag lost ship in their stupid fleet battles. At least im not bitter though. Hey now, not all of us empire alliance carebears have this mythical unplayable lag. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Iyanna Swift	Posted - 2006.09.17 07:24:00 - [41] As much as I would like to think patches and more efficient programming will fix the lag, it won't. There's simply too much going on for software updates to do much more. The only really powerful solution is more newer servers and fatter pipes from the datacenter. Sadly, this would cost the big bucks and any problem the server has would be that much more complex for every new machine. If would get to the point that your internet connection would not be able to transmit and recieve the sheer amount of data and people would then blame software or servers or CCP in general for it. As much as no one likes lag... there will be no huge advancement that cures all your problems unless you want to double the subscription fee and if CCP invests heavily in servers and personnel to maintain, small incremental performance increases is all you can hope for. Besides, new stuff is always fun, and the game (while looking very good) could be very impressive with a graphics update, but new graphics and ships probably won't hurt anything. I think more depth is always welcome..... and what you're asking for is logistically and essentially impossible to achieve.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.17 07:35:00 - [42] go away we need new shiny stuff then we forget aboutlag Hey i get paid to be ebil - Xorus So how much you want for the ebil goat??-Tirg I don't - Imz0r
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.17 07:41:00 - [43] We got a own node and all I noticed was "your number 3 in queque to log in..." From Dusk till Dawn
codepic Mithril Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.17 08:42:00 - [44] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Originally by: Selfe LagLess Fleet Battles > Kali Didnt someone say the same about exodus? You did realise it had "greater than" in it, did you?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.17 08:46:00 - [45] Originally by: xeom Because we all know throwing more programers at the problem is the key get a clue. Im glad someone brought this up, because its very true. Anyone who has tried programming in a group knows this. If you have a problem that 5 experienced programmers struggle with, it wont help to bring in another 5 people. They will also struggle. Its not like painting a wall where 10 painters can do it 10 times as fast. Its more like solving a math problem. Can 10 people solve it 10 times as fast? Nope. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Out Of Exile Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.17 08:50:00 - [46] Just reduce the bloody size of the fleets. Fleet size should be governed by a gang skill. There's no need for 200 vs 200 fights. Its just ridiculous. Join Out Of Exile Today
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2006.09.17 09:04:00 - [47] We do need kali.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.09.17 09:11:00 - [48] give us kali quickly
DemonStar Supernova Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2006.09.17 09:29:00 - [49] Well considering kali not only brings new ships and modules, but also patches and updates the client fixing as many issues as CCP has been able to program for in the last couple weeks, I'd say we need kali. I mean, unless you just want things to magically work we need a patch. Kali is a big fat patch wich happens to come with new things to play with.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.09.17 09:30:00 - [50] Originally by: xeom Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Ithildin [...] [...] Because we all know throwing more programers at the problem is the key get a clue. Smaller content team -> less new bugs -> Smaller petition queues. Doesn't sound that bad. I'd prefer the content and programming staff being rotated to the bughunters and GM team on a regular schedule. That might help them avoid some of the little bugs later because they can feel the pain others encounter cleaning up after their work. --==*-- No Thread with this ID This thread does not exist. Go back One page \| Go back to forums
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.17 09:50:00 - [51] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard Just reduce the bloody size of the fleets. Fleet size should be governed by a gang skill. There's no need for 200 vs 200 fights. Its just ridiculous. we talk about 20-30 dreads, and 120 other people in system TOTAL that is not much, that is barly the minimum you need to kill a POS From Dusk till Dawn
Mrmuttley House of Tempers	Posted - 2006.09.17 11:53:00 - [52] Bring on Kali the last time i got unplayable lag was after i opened my bookarks folder following a re-install of the client. I warped across 100-ish AUs and sat at a gatre long enought to get ganked in a cruiser without realising it. The bookmarks loaded up quick enough to save my pod Moral of the story organise BMs right away after a re-install. as well as the blog see my siggeh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Got Lag? Dev Responses Link-O-Matic
AdamC Caldari Ferinus Vis	Posted - 2006.09.17 12:13:00 - [53] Its not as easy as just saying "fix the lag". It can't be done like that. As with MMO game they all have the same problems. Most of the time its down to the hardware and can't easily be resolved. But we can only hope that Kali will have small performace tweeks that will make gameplay better.
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.09.17 12:33:00 - [54] Why is it so hard for people to understand that not every dev at CCP knows how to 'fix lag'? What do the graphics arts guys know about network code? Probably nothing. What do the content guys know about configuring servers? Probably nothing. What do you want these other devs to do while the network guys work on the lag? Go on a 6 month vacation? While I'm sure they'd like that I'm happy with them working on a new content patch. The new BFG.
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2006.09.17 13:23:00 - [55] They have already said they are working the lag issues. They have already stated they have more hardware on the way. So how exactly does all these ***** posts help the situation?
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.17 13:37:00 - [56] I want my Drone BC! Anyone who tries to push that futher back will have to answer to my Domi's belly full of murderous children that want a new toy to play with! I know its been said 20 billion times before, but for the record: The people who design the new ships are not the same people who work on server code. The people who design the new ships know nothing aboout server code. Designing new ships does not alter the server code in any way at all. CCP have enough money to hire as many staff that they think they need to. More staff does not mean more fixes. So, how does firing the concept artist working on ship skins cure lag?
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2006.09.17 13:58:00 - [57] Originally by: Ramireza CCP : Dont add shiny new ships Dont add a new GFX engine Dont add fancy new options Dont add tech2 wcs Dont add ANTHING Just REMOVE the lag!! And for the love of god : DONT talk about "great" goals like 30k users online and such ****. That realy zynical why we all dying in an laggy, partial unplayable game. A angry CUSTOMER Speak for yourself. And don¦t you now that the content people dont solve bugs in the code?Some people should just not post on the forums drunk .
Luke Skyrider DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.17 22:43:00 - [58] The problem is not lag, but flawed game mechanism that favor to big fleets which cause lag. Fix the game, before adding new stuff. [PvP-Recruitment] \| www.dab-online.com
Areconus Caldari Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.09.17 23:11:00 - [59] Originally by: Gloria Stitz Originally by: evistin Has anyone consider that Kali is more than about new features, and it actually also contains code and stuff to fix the server? Try not to bring reality in to these forums Otherwise we might take the game seriously LMAO "Try not to bring reality in to these forums Otherwise we might take the game seriously"

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