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Hugh Knight
Usque Ad Mortem TCC.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:10:10 -
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HI Guys,
i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA. is their a clear answer from CCP on this.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:14:06 -
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Legal. Even devs did it.
Next.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Sorao Soreen
Bear Bones Brigade The Bastards.
47
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:14:24 -
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Don't think it's against the eula. It to get confirmation open a ticket |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:28:03 -
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Given that CCP devs have been tackled and ransomed their ships by singing on comms, and a good time was had by all, the answer is a pretty clear 'no.'
Someone still has trouble sitting comfortably after the whole Erotica 1 thing, which was never about singing for your ship anyway.
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Hugh Knight
Usque Ad Mortem TCC.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:35:06 -
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Sorao Soreen wrote:Don't think it's against the eula. It to get confirmation open a ticket
yep i opened a ticket, i just want to make sure i am not going to upset anyone if i get in that situation, would be good to get a clear answer from CCP on this too so it stops confusion, so far about 50% of people say yes and the other are saying no.
Ill update the this thread once i get the response from CCP |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:36:28 -
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There is a fine line, in the Erotica1 threadnaught it was established that making someone sing to save their ship is ok, making someone read something stupid was ok, doing it for an excessive period of time is not ok...that is harassment.
At least that is what I got out of it anyway. But tread carefully **** off the wrong blogger and you could end up on the wrong end of a witch hunt. |
DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:05:41 -
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It pretty much goes that as long as someone doesn't feel harassed, then its fine.
Singing is fine, if its like a song or something. Its when you do crap like make someone sing for hours, that it now becomes harassment.
At the same time, however, someone could justifiable feel harassed if you try to force them to sing on coms. So its a thin line
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:09:22 -
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Hugh Knight wrote:HI Guys,
i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA.
It's only against the EULA if they use Auto-tune.
Mr Epeen
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Gorthanator
SQUIDS.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:16:23 -
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just blow up their ship if they are going to be like that about it. |
Hugh Knight
Usque Ad Mortem TCC.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:24:20 -
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Gorthanator wrote:just blow up their ship if they are going to be like that about it.
I prefer to just kill it, but there are more and more FC's out there trying to be cool by doing this, had an FC in spectre fleet have us catch a guy in proc in low sec we lost the sec status to catch them then the FC wanted to get him to sing on comms the fleet said no so he gave the order to let him go.
seems to be a trend in eve at the moment. if it is going to get more traction i just want a clear answer from CCP just so i know and can't get banned for it. |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:26:59 -
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It seems to depend on who you associate with.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19052
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:32:48 -
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Support Ticket.
Like nuking something from orbit, its the only way to be sure.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:36:41 -
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To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom!
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Hugh Knight
Usque Ad Mortem TCC.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:43:37 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:It seems to depend on who you associate with.
what do you mean? CCP do not care who is what, you break the rules you get banned or not. |
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
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Posted - 2015.01.07 17:57:03 -
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Solecist Project wrote:To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom! RIP ransom honoring since.. ~2011? Kinda miss those days..
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:00:41 -
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It sits very definitely within the grey area. Some posters have said:
Mario Putzo wrote: in the Erotica1 threadnaught it was established that making someone sing to save their ship is ok
but that is very definitely NOT the case. No CCP clarification was made in any way on the matter, and only player consensus judged this as "probably" safe, and as we all know, player consensus means jack-all when the hammer drops.
As a completely non-official suggestion I would say it was ok to ask (as there has been plenty of pre-Erotica precedence on the issue), but take a "No" for a "No" and do not force the point, very definitely do not record it (and make it clear on comms to everyone not to do so, so in case some cretin does, your clear "Do not record this" is in the evidence), and pull the trigger at the first indication of the "victims" "stress" (any swearing, traces of restrained anger in their voice), and call it a day.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:10:00 -
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Hmz.
I feel an ISD with lock and key approaching.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:14:52 -
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This thread will get locked if you come up with Mr. Mayonaisse.
The lot of you misinterpreting history, or outright changing it, or simply not ******* understanding it ...
... should go somewhere else for your crap.
Read up on what happened and the reason becomes obvious for anyone who doesn't lack common sense, empathy and decency.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:19:26 -
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LOL adults behaving like little children at school.
OP, convo the guy once, ask if he wants to sing for his ship/pod.
Yes --> Do it, have fun, and f*k this game if anybody gives you trouble afterwards
No --> Blap him immediately and move on
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:23:08 -
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Hugh Knight wrote:HI Guys,
i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA. is their a clear answer from CCP on this.
I think the answer to your question is "No."
There is not a clear answer from CCP on this.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:28:53 -
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War Kitten wrote:Hugh Knight wrote:HI Guys,
i was told that getting people to sing on comms for their ship/pod is breaking something in the EULA. is their a clear answer from CCP on this.
I think the answer to your question is "No." There is not a clear answer from CCP on this. There is. It's allowed. Even devs did it.
It's not brain surgery.
You're welcome.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:37:03 -
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Do it then send the recording with the petition. If you get banned we can have a riot \o/ *dusts off pitchfork*
CCP banned Ero and the Bonus Room crowd because they created the practice to push the limits with CCP and went beyond what most people consider 'good fun'. They got their line in the sand, but I don't see why that should affect people who aren't being overtly malicious. Singing in comms for a few minutes isn't really a grey area (depending on the song). Just tell the participant it's meant in fun, don't take it to the extreme, use some common sense.
Although confirmation from a GM would be good, for the record.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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VaIefar Drekavac
Independent Sharpshooters
14
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:57:08 -
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Just get proof you actually get a profit out of it.
That aside, what if I don't have mic? Can I write a poem instead? I like poems. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:49:14 -
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Hugh Knight wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:It seems to depend on who you associate with. what do you mean? CCP do not care who is what, you break the rules you get banned or not.
Evidence is heavily to the contrary
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:00:28 -
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Solecist Project wrote:To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom! I have never seen a ransom honored in all my years in Eve. In fact, Ive never seen any payment that was not secured honored, except between corp members.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2666
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:15:02 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Solecist Project wrote:To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom! I have never seen a ransom honored in all my years in Eve. In fact, Ive never seen any payment that was not secured honored, except between corp members. That's sad. Honestly. I always honoured ransoms. It's not only a matter of economics, but also of reputation.
People who don't honour ransoms are either clueless idiots ... ... or deliberately don't do it, despite the negative effect.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2666
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:16:04 -
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VaIefar Drekavac wrote:Just get proof you actually get a profit out of it.
That aside, what if I don't have mic? Can I write a poem instead? I like poems. Inb4 provably mute person petitions for reimbursement.
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:28:08 -
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Sol Project wrote:VaIefar Drekavac wrote:Just get proof you actually get a profit out of it.
That aside, what if I don't have mic? Can I write a poem instead? I like poems. Inb4 provably mute person petitions for reimbursement. No need to be snide. There are deaf Eve players, we can tease them without being nasty too.
I would request an incomprehensible stream of consciousness forum post as a ransom. After politely stopping at hull.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
133
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:36:38 -
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if true we are in trouble. |
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:37:25 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Solecist Project wrote:To be safe I strongly suggest to honour this ransom! I have never seen a ransom honored in all my years in Eve. In fact, Ive never seen any payment that was not secured honored, except between corp members.
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