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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.01.14 04:19:00 -
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I have two pieces of feedback on this.
My all-time favorite dev quote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:"AFK cloaking is an entirely social form of power. To me, it is the equivalent of posting on the forums until someone stops ratting." - CCP Fozzie, CSM 9 Summer Minutes That is to say, AFK cloakers are not a problem with game balance.
To that end, two years ago this month I offered the following post, which covered the only game-driven need for decloaking (among many more important subjects relative to Local and Intel, which is the real need here): https://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/unbreaking-local/
Two years later, most of this is still relevant.
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.01.15 03:41:13 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Cloaky ships should have a fuel requirement - CCP response... Nothing Cloaky ships should have a counter - CCP response ... nothing AFK gameplay should be against the rules - CCP Response.. yeah maybe.. but lets debate on that subject for 4 more years Give us a Deployable that can scan down cloaked ships - CCP response.. but but but.. that can be exploited.
I give up.. no matter the suggestion ccp always has an excuse to not deal with it.. here we are in 2015 and still these guys refuse to deal with it.. amazing!
I agree. CCP should just come out and admit it's a non-issue (the equivalent of posting on the forums until someone stops ratting) and close the matter for good.
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:41:59 -
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"AFK cloaking is the equivalent of posting on forums until somebody stops ratting. "
Not broken.
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.01.23 06:58:38 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: However, it is vexing that he can just sit there in perfect safety, watching, waiting and we can do nothing to kick him out of our home. He is in perfect control of when an engagement happens.
The face of entitlement, ladies and gentlemen.
Exactly. If it's your home, defend the entries like a wormhole corp does.
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.01.24 03:35:28 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Aredontis wrote:Rhavas wrote:Exactly. If it's your home, defend the entries like a wormhole corp does. Gonna try this one more time, just for you, because you seem "special": Null is NOT like wormholes, you can't just sit on the gates to keep people out. See, in null, people can light cynos and covert cynos, bridging in hundreds of others. This mechanic does not exist in W space. Apple meet Orange. If you don't let them into your system, they aren't there to light a cyno. Heck, you even have the wonderful foreknowledge of exactly where they will be coming from, unlike wormholes which open up in random spots. But asking for a one button solution to someone being cloaked in your system? That's just not how it works.
Aredontis: Yes, special in that I can actually think proactively. As can Kaarous, apparently. If you don't want AFK cloakers in your ratting system, pick one with few entrances and then guard them. Instead of posting on the forums how hard your life is because you can't have the feeling of total safety in your nullsec system.
You want security? Work for it. Get a seboed interceptor on the gates in a system with as few gates as you can manage. Figure it out. You're a nullseccer, you have corpmates, right? It's basic logistics. Guard your entrances if you want to claim something as "yours".
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.03.07 06:18:25 -
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I'm just going to leave this here:
CCP Fozzie on EVE Down Under Show
Take a listen (this bit is around 1:12:00), there's a short but important note on AFK Cloaking. Here's the TLDR:
CCP Fozzie wrote:"It's very important that it be possible to disrupt people's moneymaking in nullsec. And AFK cloaking is one of the most effective ways that we have right now to do so. We're not worried about cloaked ships being overpowered. It turns out that that while a ship is cloaked it does very little DPS ... AFK cloaking is not an issue in wormhole space and there's a very good reason for that." Can we close this thread now?
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Rhavas
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Posted - 2015.03.08 06:25:44 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:It seems broken that I can ... [sit] in someone's money system 24/7 as a strategic tool to disrupt their income
Translation: I have a right to this ISK. I shouldn't have to work for it if I get sov, declaring it "my money system" and worthy of absolute safety.
In wormholes, you declare a system "our money system" by kicking everyone else out, putting a POS on every damn moon in the system, scanning constantly, having bubbles and multi-sebo Interceptors constantly on hand to grab crashers and frigates, and doing almost everything in your home in a group for cross-support and reaction. You also sit in space unless you're logged off.
THAT is how you own a system.
CCP Fozzie wrote:"It's very important that it be possible to disrupt people's moneymaking in nullsec. And AFK cloaking is one of the most effective ways that we have right now to do so."
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