don't flame me for thinking out aloud.

I think you made a wrong turn and Ideas & Suggestions or whatever its called, friend

* Not amazed that such a low quality post comes from an xXDeathXx member...

how about making friends with someone and sharing cyno alts?

Pretty sure the whole jump change thing was made so that no one would frequently be doing 30 cyno-alt-distance travel, especially not solo.

E.g. Working As Intended.

The changes in Jump travel distance mean that my Cyno toons have to travel with me. It is impracticable to have 30 cyno toons in station along the route I need to jump.

Is it time to consider if the cyno character & the beacon type jump is outdated and belongs to a previous age.

IMO Cap ships should just have the ability to jump to any system within range and not be tied to a character projecting a beacon. True freedom of movement should be possible with a ship of this class.

All that is required is to decide where the ships land in a system- perhaps random & off grid so it takes time to pull all the cap ships together & get into the action. I don't know about this issue. Needs exploring if the idea is valid.

This would offer flexibility & compensation for jump fatigue. The argument that CCP would loose revenue due to cyno alts unsubscribing is not really valid as I'm sure these alts could be put to better use in the game. I think most serious players would train up there cyno characters to have new functionality.

I think it would be much more exciting to be in a fight & have the risk of cap ships land than having a beacon lit which tells you where they are about to land.

It is just a thought to ponder on so don't flame me for thinking out aloud.

Jeeze!

You would have thought that all the crying would have been done by now.

Explain why you feel the post is low quality.

Portals work with magic now.

IMO Cap ships should just have the ability to jump to any system within range and not be tied to a character projecting a beacon. True freedom of movement should be possible with a ship of this class.

* Not amazed that such a low quality post comes from an xXDeathXx member...

Were it up to me -ìall ships would be able to do this. Gates are a mechanic that only favors the play style of preventing others from playing the game. It's not helping to have a PVP game where everybody has to go through fatal funnels just to go anywhere (and then get told to pay for another sub to have a scout which is P2W and looks like a scam to new players).

Doesn't like change.

Wants it different.

"All that needs to be done is", meaning that he knows better than all of CCP combined.

Has no clue if his idea actually has any merit
and rather wants CCP to figure it out themselves.


Excuses himself with "just my 2c".

So.... *checks card* Bingo?

The changes in Jump travel distance mean that my Cyno toons have to travel with me. It is impracticable to have 30 cyno toons in station along the route I need to jump.

Is it time to consider if the cyno character & the beacon type jump is outdated and belongs to a previous age.

IMO Cap ships should just have the ability to jump to any system within range and not be tied to a character projecting a beacon. True freedom of movement should be possible with a ship of this class.

All that is required is to decide where the ships land in a system- perhaps random & off grid so it takes time to pull all the cap ships together & get into the action. I don't know about this issue. Needs exploring if the idea is valid.

This would offer flexibility & compensation for jump fatigue. The argument that CCP would loose revenue due to cyno alts unsubscribing is not really valid as I'm sure these alts could be put to better use in the game. I think most serious players would train up there cyno characters to have new functionality.

I think it would be much more exciting to be in a fight & have the risk of cap ships land than having a beacon lit which tells you where they are about to land.

It is just a thought to ponder on so don't flame me for thinking out aloud.

The changes in Jump travel distance mean that my Cyno toons have to travel with me. It is impracticable to have 30 cyno toons in station along the route I need to jump.

Is it time to consider if the cyno character & the beacon type jump is outdated and belongs to a previous age.

IMO Cap ships should just have the ability to jump to any system within range and not be tied to a character projecting a beacon. True freedom of movement should be possible with a ship of this class.

All that is required is to decide where the ships land in a system- perhaps random & off grid so it takes time to pull all the cap ships together & get into the action. I don't know about this issue. Needs exploring if the idea is valid.

This would offer flexibility & compensation for jump fatigue. The argument that CCP would loose revenue due to cyno alts unsubscribing is not really valid as I'm sure these alts could be put to better use in the game. I think most serious players would train up there cyno characters to have new functionality.

I think it would be much more exciting to be in a fight & have the risk of cap ships land than having a beacon lit which tells you where they are about to land.

It is just a thought to ponder on so don't flame me for thinking out aloud.

Or ..., you could try to work together with people and use the tools at your disposal to determine wether something's camped? Nah, who'd want to play together in a MMO, right?

Cynos have ever been more of a problematic disengagement mechanic than one for engagement. In theory, a group could cast their forces far and wide to prevent capitals from escaping from a given area, but how often have you seen that actually take place? It's very impractical considering that most cynos only need to be up for a few seconds to fulfill their core function.

I'll accept the ability for capitals to rip holes in space to go whereever they wish.. so long as I can follow them. To this end, give the capital ships the ability to create K-K wormholes. Whatever the mass limit, they should have a minimum threshold time for being open, and an access range big enough to allow heavy ships to pursue.

Here's a new caveat this would introduce: No more precision cynos. That means no one step hotdrops, and no cynoing next to an engaged POS or other asset. The cyno exit would pretty much be a random point in the target solar system. Would it be broadcast system wide? I leave that as exercise for the developer.

For jump freighters, the need for precision cynos can only be addressed by jump bridges along the traditional highways. Jumping in within docking range of stations wouldn't be possible.


At the risk of digression, I'd prefer to see these difficulties revamped in a way that makes station or jump bridge environments more nuanced. I'd put them inside of deadspaces, but without acceleration gates. In this context, everyone has to slowboat. It should look rather majestic in my estimation.

The changes in Jump travel distance mean that my Cyno toons have to travel with me. It is impracticable to have 30 cyno toons in station along the route I need to jump.

Is it time to consider if the cyno character & the beacon type jump is outdated and belongs to a previous age.

No problem with that but honestly- do you really like 20 cyno jumps & all the hassle behind it?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think you've missed the point.

Long distance travel for cap ships was changed precisely so it would become a hassle. Force projection had become a serious problem in EVE, with cap ship hot drops occurring halfway across EVE within a few minutes (or less).

Any long distance travel across EVE in a cap ship should be part of a larger effort, which means multiple cyno alts will be available... and even then progression won't be fast. The whole operation will need to be carefully planned, as large fleet operations should be.

For solo movement rely primarily on gate jumps and save your cyno hops for when you really need them.