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John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 351	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:16:12 - [1] - Quote Ishukone-Raata Public Release - Black Rise Stability Initiative >> Lonetrek Region >> Sela Constellation \| Malkalen Solar System >> Malkalen V - Moon 1 - Ishukone Corporation Factory \| Ishukone-Raata Administration Offices Saisieni Summit, It has been three months since the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive announced its plans to aid in the stabilization of the Black Rise region. With an economic focus driving these efforts, the Ishukone-Raata Directorship moved to create the Black Rise Stability Initiative, noted hereafter as BRSI. In those three months, Ishukone-Raata and its subsidiaries have made progress in producing a healthy, competitive economy in the Onnamon, Ichoriya, and Samanuni systems by bringing a total of 20 billion isk of materials to local markets. We plan to increase the amount of investment to 34 billion isk within six months, while still subsidizing Black Rise infrastructure expansion and pacification efforts. In the future, Ishukone-Raata will be adopting our previous Free Trade Zone model, as originally employed in the Intaki system, and applying it to the BRSI. It has been a productive three months since our arrival in Black Rise. The pilots and general staff of I-RED look forward to many more productive months building on the BRSI, working in concert with our allies in the militia, and the dedicated pilots of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6547	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:19:19 - [2] - Quote I would like to second Revenent-haan's message regarding our appreciation for our militia allies, and especially the pilots of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris who have provided advice and specifications as we've transitioned into a new theater of operations. Lieutenant Kernher and Captain Shutaq have both been assets of great value; to both PIE and the pilots as individuals, you have my thanks. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 131	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:26:52 - [3] - Quote I wondered why I hadn't seen hair nor hide of PIE after moving to the warzone. All I see are various variants of blooders and sansha.
Nalena Linova Project Kairos Heiian Conglomerate 8	Posted - 2015.01.11 12:28:08 - [4] - Quote The efforts of the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive in the Black Rise region are most appreciated. Federation forces have withdrawn from several key systems and we are already seeing early signs of improvement in quality of life indices for many of the embattled systems in the region. State Protectorate forces look forward to further co-operation with Ishukone-Raata, towards a better future for all State citizens in Black Rise.
Jukko Riis Black Rise Colonial Exploration 41	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:18:19 - [5] - Quote I too would like to extend thanks to Revenent-haan and all the pilots who have put their lives on the line to maintain the security of Black Rise. The stability they've created have been instrumental in the start of my corporation and several others. The Rise now has a vibrant market, new colonies and the morale of the people is the best I've seen in quite a long time. That being said, we still have a lot of work to do. We still have Guritas issues. Several systems have reported sightings of the mysterious cloaked structures and their Circadian Sleeper counterparts. And as always, there is the ever-present threat of the Federation. But we prevail. We rise. Special thanks to the pilots and crews of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. Your dedication and generosity will not soon be forgotten. Black Rise Colonial Exploration is currently developing new lines of trade and logistic support within the Rise. If any specific help is needed, please do not hesitate to contact us. We provide ships and equipment by special order to State Protectorate pilots at a greatly reduced price. Let us know what you need so we can help you do your jobs better. For the Rise!
Kyoko Sakoda Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 192	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:18:13 - [6] - Quote While it may not be appreciated coming from me, I'm glad to hear the Black Rise markets are improving. We Caldari need this region in order to remain competitive with the other nations. Any strong investment in the fledgling economy of Black Rise, be it through SCC markets or business-to-business transactions, is to be celebrated.
Eojek Starlight Moly 46	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:28:33 - [7] - Quote If you are going to encourage free trade, you are going to need to remove or inhibit elements that disrupt free trade. Also, you are going to need infrastructure to support trade. Individuals are going to need to be incentivised to allow such free trade to exist through either reward or punishment. When large scale threats to trade become clear, collectively, your organization must respond en masse. While larger threats to trade are clear, smaller threats are also present. Continual vigilance and well thought out intelligence networks and counter intelligence is highly valued in order to allow the free flow of goods and services to continue.
Thea Isotalo Black Rise Colonial Exploration 9	Posted - 2015.01.11 19:16:18 - [8] - Quote Eojek wrote: If you are going to encourage free trade, you are going to need to remove or inhibit elements that disrupt free trade. Also, you are going to need infrastructure to support trade. Individuals are going to need to be incentivised to allow such free trade to exist through either reward or punishment. When large scale threats to trade become clear, collectively, your organization must respond en masse. While larger threats to trade are clear, smaller threats are also present. Continual vigilance and well thought out intelligence networks and counter intelligence is highly valued in order to allow the free flow of goods and services to continue. Yes. We are well aware of this and we are working hard to make a solid foundtation, not just turn an ISK. Only a fool counts money in a burning house. So thanks Revenent-haan and everyone for helping out. People are buying things almost faster than we can make 'em, so that's good. It's going to be a slow, steady process, but we can make Black Rise what it was always meant to be!
Utari Onzo 13. Enigma Project 103	Posted - 2015.01.11 19:34:41 - [9] - Quote The establishment of a Free Trade Zone in the Black Rise region can only serve to bring greater prosperity and success to the Caldari People. Even from the depths of unknown space, I still feel proud and grateful for the efforts of State loyalists. New York, Paris, Peckham, Jita 13. is recruiting
Haria Haritimado EVE University Ivy League 19	Posted - 2015.01.11 22:07:51 - [10] - Quote Respected Mr. Revenant, I also wish to express my thanks for the efforts of the Ishukone-Raata and its stability initiative in the Black Rise region. I would like to point out that the constantly changing wormhole passages within high security space is a serious matter for the regional market and security issues as well. I observe more and more space vessels crossing those trans-stelar borders with more or less subtlety. Chances and risks may be obvious. I suggest to take this into account and attempt to realize a continuous exploration and charting for changing wormholes in the Black Rise region, maybe with real time access for your partners and allies. Black Rise Colonial Exploration may be a possible partner for you. I've worked with this young and committed organization. They are a reliably and professional partner in exploration. CEO Jukko Riis already introduced himself above. Sincerely, Haria Haritimado Character blog: Horizons and Reflections

Korsavius Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 221	Posted - 2015.01.11 22:18:52 - [11] - Quote I am proud of the efforts put forth by my parent corporation, our allies in the militia, various third party Statesmen, and the dedicated pilots of PIE in shifting the scene of Black Rise into a more prosperous, stable region. I echo the sentiments of those before me that there is still much more work to be done. There is more investing, more building, more cooperating, and more policing that needs to be put in place. On the latter front, I say that those who are concerned with Black Rise security be a little more at ease as I-RED has been, and continues to, operate diligently to excise the Guristas tumor that has thoroughly entrenched itself in the region. Progress has been slow, but steady. Extensive plans are currently in the works to boost progress. Pirate capsuleer elements will prove a little more difficult, but with careful action perhaps their activities can be reduced. Fair profits. Gûê Ch+½j+ì Korsavius Gûê (RDC) Intelligence Officer Gûê [I-RED] Director of Human Resources
Jukko Riis Black Rise Colonial Exploration 41	Posted - 2015.01.12 00:41:18 - [12] - Quote Thank you, Haritimado-haan. We would certainly support an effort to get as much intel on the wormhole/Sleeper ss possible. While we've been lucky so far, if they should become aggressive, we as a species would be in danger. We would also be willing to assist I-RED and others in removing the Guritas presence in Black Rise once and for all. We're a new corp and maybe we don't have the numbers or power of the larger corps, but this is our home.
Bataav Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 241	Posted - 2015.01.12 01:21:52 - [13] - Quote On behalf of the Intaki Prosperity Initiative, I'm happy to congratulate our long-standing friends in I-RED on their latest successes in Black Rise. I have great confidence in I-RED's abilities to build on their early achievements in the Aokinen constellation. Eojek wrote: If you are going to encourage free trade, you are going to need to remove or inhibit elements that disrupt free trade. Also, you are going to need infrastructure to support trade. From my own experience, working alongside I-RED in the Intaki system, they are experienced enough to know what is required to make the BRSI succeed. In particular the Free Trade Zone model that was implemented, in agreement with the IPI, in the Intaki system was a success for all of those involved. I have no doubt Aokinen and the rest of Black Rise will benefit in the same way. Bataav en Gravonere IPI & ILF Diplomat Intaki Endures!
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1541	Posted - 2015.01.12 04:57:34 - [14] - Quote Congratulations to the I-RED to finally change their path from traitors to do something useful for the State. It is quite good and surprising development, taking into account all recent I-RED statements. However, to completely repair I-RED reputation such liars as Korsavius and Makoto Priano must be dealt with. Especially it doesn't add respect to I-RED while such dishonorable coward as Makoto Priano is allowed to talk for a whole alliance. I wish you could faster solve these little problem and return Caldari spirit to your corporation.
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 359	Posted - 2015.01.12 05:20:48 - [15] - Quote Respect is something I fear you know nothing about Kim. As for reputations, please do us a favour and fix your own before you croak about others. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 133	Posted - 2015.01.12 05:26:26 - [16] - Quote Now now, don't bite the hand that feeds you even better reputation, Revenent. Having that bag of crazy froth at you and your people does nothing but good for your standings with the entire sodding cluster.
Nakito Kobara Yamagata Syndicate 8	Posted - 2015.01.12 11:55:39 - [17] - Quote As a resident in Black Rise and part of the war effort I welcome this initiative. Congratulations I-RED in such a welcome project in aid of the State.
Jennifer Maxwell Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 225	Posted - 2015.01.13 08:15:08 - [18] - Quote I'd also like to thank I-RED for assisting in the stabilization of Black Rise. Things have gone much quicker and smoother because of your presence.
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 495	Posted - 2015.01.17 11:32:15 - [19] - Quote BRSI? "Black Rise, Shoot It?" I'd advise disciplining your PR personnel. Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:07:03 - [20] - Quote I'm eagerly awaiting news on how the stability part of this initiative is to be delivered.War zone systems change hands with mind gnawing regularity, and whilst the addition of a few more State aligned pilots is nothing to sneer at, and whilst every shattered FDU hull is to be cheered, neither contesting systems nor hulling bad guys will bring stability. Even economic renewal is a bit of an own goal if your trade hub station flips. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."

Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1135	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:26:09 - [21] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: I'm eagerly awaiting news on how the stability part of this initiative is to be delivered.War zone systems change hands with mind gnawing regularity, and whilst the addition of a few more State aligned pilots is nothing to sneer at, and whilst every shattered FDU hull is to be cheered, neither contesting systems nor hulling bad guys will bring stability. Even economic renewal is a bit of an own goal if your trade hub station flips. Well it's a good thing then that the trading hubs are all in bordering non-contested systems, isn't it?
Desiderya Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 929	Posted - 2015.01.17 16:17:53 - [22] - Quote As one of the most war-torn areas in Black Rise, Aokinen constellation needs all the help it can get. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1135	Posted - 2015.01.17 16:50:06 - [23] - Quote So first it's, "economic stimulus in contested systems is pointless because they flip regularly." Now it's, "economic stimulus in non-contested systems is pointless because the constellation is not directly in the warzone." Your agenda is showing.
Desiderya Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 930	Posted - 2015.01.17 17:42:54 - [24] - Quote These are your choice of words. Please try to keep your personal grudges out of this otherwise fruitful discussion. "Aokinen needs all the help it can get" was said provocatively, because I do not think Black Rise will be controlled from there. In comparison with the Intaki market, for example, the markets in Aokinen have been established right at the beginning of the conflict and developed over the years. I know this, because I've been part of it directly as supplier and then user, and indirectly, as owner of suppliers. The fate of war-zone systems was never linked to any scarcity in these markets as at the best of times, they were rivaling Jita prices for the most commonly used goods, and at worst were subject to selected manipulation of select items in order to attain higher profits, which this endeavour is mostly all about. Slightly bloated prices ahve been referred to me by individuals as "taxing LP". What has a direct impact on the combat readiness of pilots is ship availability close to key systems, especially staging/station systems that are worth defending. Nennamaila can be namedropped in this regard. Staging from high-sec has never been a good move used by any group I've seen as the entrances are routinely blockaded. As all this is hardly rocket science the question regarding stability can be legitimately asked. What kind of stability are we speaking here? A stable SCC market has been there from the beginning, although it can always benefit from expansion. Investing capital into this is a sound business proposition and will most likely lead to attractive returns of investment. Over the course of this thread it has moved from talking markets to talking 'security' and other fancy buzzwords provided by third parties, which has spawned the question that was asked by Pieter Tuulinen. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 361	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:35:46 - [25] - Quote As proven with Ishukone's policies in regards to business with the Intaki people, contested states of systems in the militia conflict have little effect on economic stability and growth. Inquiring individuals will just have to wait for the initiative to mature to see exactly the type of stability we wish to bring to the region. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:30:51 - [26] - Quote John Revenent wrote: As proven with Ishukone's policies in regards to business with the Intaki people, contested states of systems in the militia conflict have little effect on economic stability and growth. Inquiring individuals will just have to wait for the initiative to mature to see exactly the type of stability we wish to bring to the region. Secrets? Fair enough. I'll continue to wait and watch and wonder, then. Although it should be noted that while Ishukone certainly profited from its flexible attitude regarding managing the trade in the Intaki system, and whilst that stance certainly proved to be FAR more productive than any approach that demanded the system be in the hands of the State, it's more difficult to see how this benefited stability within the contested zone. Note that I am NOT one of these economic heretics who would claim that a profit for ones home corporation is not an end in and of itself. I would also argue that if the profits from the Intaki system have directly aided Ishukone with raising the capital to leverage its buyout of districts on the Homeworld then what has been good for Ishukone has been of direct benefit to every single citizen of the State - and that we do owe Ishukone no small measure of thanks and respect for its achievements in that arena. That said - you have to expect combat pilots to be wary of anyone who ascribes lofty goals to an expansion of what is a lucrative market for those who service it. It should be added that market hub logistical routes are all heavily penetrated by false-flag trading companies that directly service the opposing militia, however, and so such expansion generally doesn't benefit one side more than the other. Hence my wariness. That said, the respect I mentioned earlier has earned Ishukone a lot of leeway when it comes to trust. Let's see what Mama Ishy has dreamt up this time. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1283	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:02:15 - [27] - Quote As I enjoy projects that benefit the greater whole of the State & it's citizens, I do support what I-RED attempts to do in Black Rise, stabilizing it's economy & providing additional security where they can. I've visited the trio of systems selected for this economic stimulus package, and was pleasantly surprised to see a healthy market targeting militia members. After asking additional info from I-RED representatives & investigating deeper into the BRSI project and the possibly upcoming Free Trade Zone initiative, I decided on publishing a report, to spread the good news about this! Ishukone-Raata boosts Black Rise economy All in all, keep up the good work I-RED! Ishukone-Raata boosts Black Rise economy Circadian Seekers retaliate!
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 362	Posted - 2015.01.18 01:31:20 - [28] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Secrets? Fair enough. I'll continue to wait and watch and wonder, then. Although it should be noted that while Ishukone certainly profited from its flexible attitude regarding managing the trade in the Intaki system, and whilst that stance certainly proved to be FAR more productive than any approach that demanded the system be in the hands of the State, it's more difficult to see how this benefited stability within the contested zone. Note that I am NOT one of these economic heretics who would claim that a profit for ones home corporation is not an end in and of itself. I would also argue that if the profits from the Intaki system have directly aided Ishukone with raising the capital to leverage its buyout of districts on the Homeworld then what has been good for Ishukone has been of direct benefit to every single citizen of the State - and that we do owe Ishukone no small measure of thanks and respect for its achievements in that arena. That said - you have to expect combat pilots to be wary of anyone who ascribes lofty goals to an expansion of what is a lucrative market for those who service it. It should be added that market hub logistical routes are all heavily penetrated by false-flag trading companies that directly service the opposing militia, however, and so such expansion generally doesn't benefit one side more than the other. Hence my wariness. That said, the respect I mentioned earlier has earned Ishukone a lot of leeway when it comes to trust. Let's see what Mama Ishy has dreamt up this time. Ishukone-Raata has been conducting development projects since our foundation, often under the direction and policies employed by Ishukone. During the height of the Intaki development, we acted as an administrator in cooperation with groups like the Intaki Liberation Front. How did we bring stability? We installed infrastructure, lines of communication, we deployed assets and security personnel with allies to aid in combating the local pirate threat both planetside and in the trade-lanes. We expanded upon the same blueprint in Syndicate to a even greater success. We will adapt the same strategy to our BRSI efforts. It isn't perfect, it isn't easy but it is better then the alternative.. doing nothing. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.18 02:05:36 - [29] - Quote Well, it certainly sounds promising - although I would mention that the three highsec trade hubs in that area have ALWAYS been Ichoriya, Onamon and Samanuni, so this hardly represents a dramatic shift in the economic foundations of the war in Black Rise. In addition to this, as my better half pointed out, fighting from, let's say, Ichoriya as a jumping off point into the warzone proper is a definitely second-best way of prosecuting war patrols, as your points of ingress and egress are bottlenecks that are guarded heavily. You need a Forward Operating Base such as Enaluri before you can really conduct strikes without the kind of punitive losses my analysts are telling me that you've been suffering. Once again, I'm sure I'm not telling you anything that you haven't already worked out. Given that the majority of Black Rise is languishing under Federation occupation, on second thoughts, perhaps stability shouldn't be our goal. Perhaps you guys ought to be the change we need to believe in. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.18 02:15:29 - [30] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: So first it's, "economic stimulus in contested systems is pointless because they flip regularly." Now it's, "economic stimulus in non-contested systems is pointless because the constellation is not directly in the warzone." Your agenda is showing. And you ought to be kinder to the people minding the store while you go on your little vacatiion. Ushra K'han are back and they've sent their regards. I'm sure they'd far rather have found you waiting for them than us. Now let's all be a little nicer to one another, shall we? "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."

John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 362	Posted - 2015.01.18 02:38:41 - [31] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Well, it certainly sounds promising - although I would mention that the three highsec trade hubs in that area have ALWAYS been Ichoriya, Onamon and Samanuni, so this hardly represents a dramatic shift in the economic foundations of the war in Black Rise. In addition to this, as my better half pointed out, fighting from, let's say, Ichoriya as a jumping off point into the warzone proper is a definitely second-best way of prosecuting war patrols, as your points of ingress and egress are bottlenecks that are guarded heavily. You need a Forward Operating Base such as Enaluri before you can really conduct strikes without the kind of punitive losses my analysts are telling me that you've been suffering. Once again, I'm sure I'm not telling you anything that you haven't already worked out. Given that the majority of Black Rise is languishing under Federation occupation, on second thoughts, perhaps stability shouldn't be our goal. Perhaps you guys ought to be the change we need to believe in. Thank you for pointing out the obvious on where the foundations of the economy in the Black Rise region are. But I do believe you are presuming a little to much, or somehow think the linchpin of our operations for this initiative revolve around those three systems, or even revolves around the militia conflict.. As stated before, this is simply the beginning stage of the BRSI. As for your suggestion, it has been noted. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.18 03:38:18 - [32] - Quote I've tried wordy, so now I'll try laconic. Plans for Black Rise that don't involve the Militia Conflict are like plans for burning buildings that don't involve the fire. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 362	Posted - 2015.01.18 03:59:37 - [33] - Quote I appreciate your words of wisdom Tuulinen. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3406	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:17:28 - [34] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Plans for Black Rise that don't involve the Militia Conflict are like plans for burning buildings that don't involve the fire. Metaphors that don't make sense are like indicator permanent apples mythifying. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Internal Affairs
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:18:40 - [35] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Plans for Black Rise that don't involve the Militia Conflict are like plans for burning buildings that don't involve the fire. Metaphors that don't make sense are like indicator permanent apples mythifying. If the Metaphor makes no sense, only in one scenario is the metaphor at fault. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1139	Posted - 2015.01.18 08:39:18 - [36] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: And you ought to be kinder to the people minding the store while you go on your little vacatiion. At this point I'd rather lose the store than allow demons to continue profiting off of it. Quote: Plans for Black Rise that don't involve the Militia Conflict are like plans for burning buildings that don't involve the fire. If the fire can't be stopped, you have to look for other ways of minimizing the damage it causes.
Jurou Yuan Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 141	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:32:44 - [37] - Quote An investment of pocket change over six months and a rabble of people to accomplish what I did for well over 12 months on my own is apparently worthy of a announcement these days. Oh Black Rise, what has my jewel become in my absence?
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4430	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:38:17 - [38] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: And you ought to be kinder to the people minding the store while you go on your little vacatiion. At this point I'd rather lose the store than allow demons to continue profiting off of it. It's only when we've gained things by dubious means that we really, truly, understand how having them can make us feel uncomfortable, huh? Mind you, all those souls that can be saved now, eh? One would imagine you'd be frantically attempting to hold the line at this point - especially as companies like ours have little to no vested interest in what happens groundside in our deployment area. Quote: Plans for Black Rise that don't involve the Militia Conflict are like plans for burning buildings that don't involve the fire. Samira Kernher wrote: If the fire can't be stopped, you have to look for other ways of minimizing the damage it causes. And yet, the fire still burns. Well, Revenent has politely (to his credit) told me that I'll get no more information. I'm not surprised to hear that the solution will lie outside of the arena of fighting the Federation and conquering systems - even the ones that have traditionally been Caldari - since you and I know the amount of work involved in that. I suppose I'll just have to wait and see what this magic solution is. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1140	Posted - 2015.01.18 10:01:19 - [39] - Quote For the sake of avoiding dragging this thread down into further pointless argument, I will have nothing more to say with you here, Pieter.
ValentinaDLM Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 565	Posted - 2015.01.18 10:31:01 - [40] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: And you ought to be kinder to the people minding the store while you go on your little vacatiion. At this point I'd rather lose the store than allow demons to continue profiting off of it. There are no demons, only people. If you see the demons, not the people then I feel sorry for you. Samira, if you ever want to talk, and see for yourself there are no demons, I will be available to avail your concerns anytime I am in space. As to the main point, all economic activity is good activity, I hope this brings more development to Black Rise.

Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1285	Posted - 2015.01.18 10:41:21 - [41] - Quote Jurou Yuan wrote: An investment of pocket change over six months and a rabble of people to accomplish what I did for well over 12 months on my own is apparently worthy of a announcement these days. Oh Black Rise, what has my jewel become in my absence? Well, up until this announcement I was not aware of any prior dedicated economic investments in Black Rise. Very little news from that region reaches the State or other places. In that light, announcement like this are good, attracting attention to the people that there are indeed parties investing into a better economy in this place and that there's opportunities awaiting to be grasped. But you could turn this into a positive thing, get a Trade cooperation going, see if you can strike some deals with the interested parties regarding trading good & supplying materials for production. Ishukone-Raata boosts Black Rise economy Circadian Seekers retaliate!
Jurou Yuan Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 142	Posted - 2015.01.18 11:32:44 - [42] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Jurou Yuan wrote: An investment of pocket change over six months and a rabble of people to accomplish what I did for well over 12 months on my own is apparently worthy of a announcement these days. Oh Black Rise, what has my jewel become in my absence? Well, up until this announcement I was not aware of any prior dedicated economic investments in Black Rise. Very little news from that region reaches the State or other places. In that light, announcement like this are good, attracting attention to the people that there are indeed parties investing into a better economy in this place and that there's opportunities awaiting to be grasped. But you could turn this into a positive thing, get a Trade cooperation going, see if you can strike some deals with the interested parties regarding trading good & supplying materials for production. I could but that wouldn't be any fun now would it? I'm not entirely sure I will return to black rise to be quite honest. There is room at your Arcology though right?
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3406	Posted - 2015.01.18 14:54:51 - [43] - Quote I was going to type a serious post, but then I remembered what happens to those in this forum. If you want some serious straight talk about what's going on here, look for me in person. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Internal Affairs
Vechtor DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 23	Posted - 2015.01.18 15:14:11 - [44] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: I was going to type a serious post, but then I remembered what happens to those in this forum. If you want some serious straight talk about what's going on here, look for me in person. As once an ILF member, and then an I-RED member, and having seen what happens when I-RED or any other entity leading an "economic stability" program anywhere in New Eden suddenly leaves the area and depart somewhere else, what could happen differently this time, for Black Rise? Economic stability is something a lot bigger than pushing up markets where there are none, as you have obviously learned from what I-RED have unprecedently done in Intaki as a clear example. Economic stability means all aspects of industry and consumption will encounter a stable, thus reliable, environment in order to plan things, develop new projects, build bigger and better outposts and most important of all, predict outcomes. I'm affraid I-RED is incapable to do it alone as it wasn't in Intaki, or Syndicate, but the sad part of all this is that instead people try to help I-RED in this initiative for the betterment of all, what I keep reading and seeing, as I did read and see with regard to Intaki in the past, is people trying to minimize I-RED's efforts. They don't do anything but when someone says it does, they despise. I-RED will give up Black Rise sometime in the future and when that happens no legacy will exist as it left no legacy in Intaki or Syndicate. No stability whatsoever. Not because all of your efforts are insuficient but because of capsuleers' incapacity in general. And Katrina, you keep posting too much agressively around here.... doesn't help.
Jurou Yuan Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 143	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:00:57 - [45] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: I was going to type a serious post, but then I remembered what happens to those in this forum. If you want some serious straight talk about what's going on here, look for me in person. That will be a short talk.
Jukko Riis Black Rise Colonial Exploration 45	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:13:48 - [46] - Quote Vechtor wrote: I-RED will give up Black Rise sometime in the future and when that happens no legacy will exist as it left no legacy in Intaki or Syndicate. No stability whatsoever. Not because all of your efforts are insuficient but because of capsuleers' incapacity in general. There are others here willing to take a long-term effort to make sure that I-RED's efforts are not wasted. Black Rise Colonial Exploration
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1285	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:25:49 - [47] - Quote As some of you heard by now, an I-RED colony in Black Rise suffered a critical reaction failure, wiping it out. Luckily capsuleers rushed to assist after receiving the emergency call. This allowed more then 95% of the colonists to be saved & the retrieval of assets crucial for I-RED (based on their high priority in evacuation) Despite this, over 4.000 people of the original 145.000 perished in the thermonuclear blast. But it would have been alot worse if it wasn't for the efforts by capsuleers & sacrifices made by their crews. You can read more about it here: Black Rise colony struck by disaster! Hopefully, the rescued colonists will receive assistance by I-RED in their search for a new home & job, considering their former home was an I-RED investment. Disaster strikes Black Rise colony! Circadian Seekers retaliate!
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4432	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:43:57 - [48] - Quote As I've said before, you really cannot skimp when it comes to colonial infrastructure and personnel training. The death of 4000 brave citizens of the State is a tragedy, but the rescue of 141,000 is a triumph and I commend everyone involved. I can only hope that an investigation is underway into how a perfectly stable technology could have fallen into such dysfunction that it threatened the colony. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Utari Onzo 13. Enigma Project 115	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:13:31 - [49] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: As I've said before, you really cannot skimp when it comes to colonial infrastructure and personnel training. The death of 4000 brave citizens of the State is a tragedy, but the rescue of 141,000 is a triumph and I commend everyone involved. I can only hope that an investigation is underway into how a perfectly stable technology could have fallen into such dysfunction that it threatened the colony. Sometimes **** just happens, but I'm not gonna get involved in any speculation at this time, as hopefully people will understand. New York, Paris, Peckham, Jita 13. is recruiting
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3406	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:58:58 - [50] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: I can only hope that an investigation is underway into how a perfectly stable technology could have fallen into such dysfunction that it threatened the colony. Yes, Internal Affairs is investigating. We will release a preliminary report to PR soon enough. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Internal Affairs

Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1287	Posted - 2015.01.18 21:54:53 - [51] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: I can only hope that an investigation is underway into how a perfectly stable technology could have fallen into such dysfunction that it threatened the colony. Yes, Internal Affairs is investigating. We will release a preliminary report to PR soon enough. Don't forget about the freighter that crashed prior to the emergency broadcast. Seems someone is skimping out on maintenance costs. Will keep an eye on the release of the Internal Affairs report. Disaster strikes Black Rise colony! Circadian Seekers retaliate!
Korsavius Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 222	Posted - 2015.01.19 06:14:46 - [52] - Quote I will echo my colleague's words and say that a report will be published after details have been finalized. Gûê Ch+½j+ì Korsavius Gûê (RDC) Intelligence Officer Gûê [I-RED] Director of Human Resources
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 135	Posted - 2015.01.19 07:38:02 - [53] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: And you ought to be kinder to the people minding the store while you go on your little vacatiion. At this point I'd rather lose the store than allow demons to continue profiting off of it. Not that I mind seeing the enemy scramble away from the warzone, but I do have to wonder what your intent and goal was if that is PIE's outlook on these matters. The warzone is currently comprised almost entirely of blooders, sansha, various unaligned pirates, some angels and other opportunists. Is that the intent of the great Praetoria? Fight for territory and abandon it to scum? Does it rankle, I wonder? Knowing that every bit of progress was owed largely to monsters and outsiders? Every victory owed to those who would perform acts of blood sacrifice worse than anything your Nauplius has ever done? That the continued war is waged by those who are for all intents and purpose anathema to your own faith, cause and ways? Perhaps it is shame that sends you to the State to try and do something good, rather than drowning in the waves of your less than righteous 24th compatriots. It does not really matter, in the end. We will be here for when you return, or perhaps when we meet again it will be in your homes. Until then, my quite sincere well wishes in being I-RED's subordinates. They are quite a bit more likely to use you for a good cause, at least.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1141	Posted - 2015.01.19 08:29:42 - [54] - Quote Yes, Del'thul. It rankles. As for helping the State, it's because I believe in supporting allies. That's what you do when you're in an alliance. I don't see why there is continued commentary about this. The state of the southern warzone is at a point where attention can be afforded elsewhere. The TLF collapsed on itself, and all of Amarr's pre-war territory remains in our control, which is what is the important thing.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1551	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:22:29 - [55] - Quote ADVISORY to State Citizens and Protectorate Pilots. Please maintain vigilance in presence of I-RED pilots, as they seem reluctant removing disgraceful elements like Makoto Priano from their ranks and has been known as alliance, whose words often mismatch with their deeds. Report any suspicious I-RED activity to your superior officers and stay safe. - D. Kim, Strike Cmdr.
Anja Suorsa Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 319	Posted - 2015.01.19 13:38:04 - [56] - Quote Tedious, even for you, Kim.
Jukko Riis Black Rise Colonial Exploration 45	Posted - 2015.01.19 15:12:36 - [57] - Quote Allow me to express our deepest condolences. We were able to dispatch a rescue ship, though we received the alert too late than to be more than a back-up presence. It goes without saying, if there is any additional assistance needed, please do not hesitate to call. I look forward to hearing the results of the investigation. Black Rise Colonial Exploration


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