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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.19 07:56:00 -
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I recently got an omen with all medium lasers.. But i don't see much diffrence from frig and small lasers. I just dueled a caracal, and even some frig rats, and they still just do 5-20 damage, like they did from my frig.
Their damage output is pathetic, and their accuracy is way lower than small lasers. As for modules i have twin heat sinks, and M radio chrystals. Is this normal, or am i experiencing something crappy like a bug? My heavy missles do 150ish damage, like they are supposed to.
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.19 07:57:00 -
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The question begs asking itself: how are your skills in medium turrets compared to small turrets?
Also, what turrets are you comparing?
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.19 08:03:00 -
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Get all relevant gunnery skills to 4 or 5... then you wont feel like that anymore. :)
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.19 08:10:00 -
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Bah, medium skill just trained at 1 >.>. But still...The damage should beat small, right? right? >.>
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.19 08:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Raubahn
Bah, medium skill just trained at 1 >.>. But still...The damage should beat small, right? right? >.>
Depends on your skills. Im not so sure that medium turret 1 beats small turret 3... if you train medium turret to 5, you get 20% extra damage. If you train rapid fire from 1 to 5, you get another 20% extra damage. If you train the tracking skill to hit better (cant remember the name), you get higher damage hits which also adds to the damage. If you train Surgical Strike, you get extra damage. If you train up for tech 2 turrets, you get even more damage.
So yeah. Get to work. :)
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.19 08:57:00 -
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stop using radio cristals
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Naran Darkmood
Gallente
MC Cubed Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.19 09:01:00 -
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and your ships give you bonus on top as well. So Frigate 4 is another 20% damage compared to cruisers 1 with 5 % damage (assuming you get damage bonus on both ships)
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.19 11:26:00 -
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What chrystals should i use? Keep in mind i have no skills for conflags yet x.x
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Mjala
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Posted - 2006.09.19 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Mjala on 19/09/2006 11:48:50
Originally by: Raubahn
Bah, medium skill just trained at 1 >.>. But still...The damage should beat small, right? right? >.>
even not!!!
with that statement you have answered your question for yourself.
you have small turret at lvl4 and med turret at lvl1.
when you calculate this, you will see why your dmg its near the same and this is for all turrets.
it doesnt matter when you put instead the laser, hybrid or projectil.
fact is, you have trained small turrets better then medium.
compare them again when you have small and medium at lvl4.
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.19 11:52:00 -
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Mate you probably have, I am guesing here, small lasers trained up to 3 or 4 and frigate skill trained up to 4. Depending on frigate and turret tracking your small guns wll hit much better and much faster than the medium ones on the omen, as I think (guessing here again) you have skill for cruiser to minimum and for medium uns at minimum also.
With my assumptions the medium guns will fire much slower, for a similar damage and track badly.
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.19 13:42:00 -
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Yeah, i'll train my turrets and heavy missles to 3, electronics, all the basic needs, than i'll focus on torpedos and rail guns, shield skills, caldari cruiser/frig, caldari BS, so i can get my raven.
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2006.09.19 13:57:00 -
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I also think that the basic medium sized turrets are scarely more damaging than the better small ones. Not sure of the nmaes of the laser versions as I do not use them muchbut I am fairly sure it applies to most weapons. For railguns the 150mm Small rails are only slightly inferior to the Dual 150mm Medium rails. Factor in lower skills on top of this and you have a reason to be disappointed - I guess you are finding something similar with lasers.
The larger medium lasers - 250mW PG requirements are much better than any frigate laser from a damage perspective (at least vs cruisers). If you are engaging frigates then cruiser sized guns will probably do no better than small ones even if you have hte better quality versions.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.19 13:57:00 -
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Medium Pulse Laser is a frigate turret. So are other "Medium" lasers. Check the size of crystal needed, you most likely are thinking of Heavy Lasers which are medium sized. Large lasers are known as Mega.
And you're absolutely correct about the damage output, you're at the moment in the very problematic part of Amarr player's life cycle: Your equipment sucks. When you get most of the related skills to lvl5, then you won't suck anymore but it's more likely that you'll have a battleship with Mega Pulses/Beams/Tachyons by then anyway.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.19 14:07:00 -
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As far as I remember with equal equivalent skills and same "level" of lasers in your guns Cruiser sized weaponry should do 33% more damamge than Frigate weaponry and BS weaponry 33% more then Cruiser (per gun).
At least I think thats the conclusion that was reached in some obscure thread a few months ago. 
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.09.19 15:45:00 -
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Not taking anything to 5 before i have all general required skills, or even to 4 until i have the basics. I'm currently just polishing on things like engineering, mechanics, electronics, etc.
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