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Nebulai ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 19:20:00 - [1] Hi all, We've been gathering feedback from various locations in relation to Events in EVE. One of the major criticisms appears to be that there is no way to have free-flowing OOC communication with the volunteers that make up the event producers and actors. This thread is for you to either ask questions, or leave feedback in relation to specific events or Aurora as a whole. The volunteers that make up Aurora have been given permission to reply casually within this thread - as long as it does not breech the NDA they have all signed. They all understand that criticism comes in both good and bad fashion, I only ask that you refrain from ranting - negative criticism is good as long as it is clearly defined and well put. Thanks -- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Aurora, ISD [email protected]


SEP JakeRed ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 19:53:00 - [2] Originally by: Monica Foulkes Ok, I must admit I have not come across any event character/ship that I know of. However, unless it already exist, would it be possible to have event characters stand out on the overview since a lot of people will be hesitant to kill a "wanted criminal" in high sec. Maybe mark them like NPCs but with blue instead of red? Event characters are just like any other player/character, they don't appear any different in the overview. As far as how everyone interacts with those characters is left up to the situation and the roleplay involved. It's not just wanted criminals or pirates that show up as event characters, it may be new pilots, or seasoned corp CEOs trying to get a new venture off the ground. Originally by: Cailais Being in Aurora any fun? Thought about signing up, but being a casual player (2-3hrs per night) figured Id get turned down. It's great fun. If you think you would be an asset to the team, go ahead and apply, there are all sorts of people in aurora from the casual to the "hardcore"


EA Kaelrie ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Cailais Being in Aurora any fun? Thought about signing up, but being a casual player (2-3hrs per night) figured Id get turned down. C. I've loved every minute of it. Apply!


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:05:00 - [4] Quote: New Emperor? Gallente Elections? Idara - Large events like these are completely the realm of CCP. AURORA may be tasked to support them, but the Devs drive the storylines on anything relating to the four Empires. Quote: How often do you have events (big or small)? Kilo - It varies greatly depending on what the various producers have going on. Generally I'd say there is at least an event running somewhere in EVE every couple of days minimum. If there are a number of arcs running at the same time, that figure might be as high as 3-4 a day (usually weekends) but that would be unusual. AURORA has been on a large recruiting drive for several months now, so we have many more actors and producers now than we have had in the past. It follows then that events should become more frequent as these new producers get their wings. Still, remember that EVE is a big place, so running into events can still be rare. Quote: How about a little more frequency, and a litte more knowldege of where/when... Helpless - As above, the new influx of actors and producers will increase frequency in due time. We generally don't widely broadcast location and timing of events purely from a logistics standpoint. Having a very large number of players show up for an event can be difficult for the producer to manage and bad for the gameplay in general (lag, crashes, etc.) On occasion, if a given group of players is involved in an arc, the producer in charge will arrange times and places with that group to further the arc.


EP LTJohonson Amarr ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Hellspawn01 I rarely hear of any small event. There should be some kind of announcements about events cuz most ppl just see them by accident. Thats the thing with events. You have to be there. But trust me, small events do get run, and quite often. Mabey one day you will be in the right place at the right time.


SEP Aporat ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:08:00 - [6] Originally by: The Slayer There are lots of events in low sec, lots more in high sec and very few in 0.0. We write our own events in 0.0, aurora is there to spice up the "safe" zones a lil bit. Events do happen in 0.0 space. Most often it is the factions living in the region that events will revolve around. ___________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


SEP Aporat ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Is there a way to contact the event NPCs after event, or between events for longer term thingies? Do you ever / regularly check their evemail? If not at current, could you possibly pretty please set up some system that would enable you to easily do so, without logging each one on and off, e.g. a feed to a particular email address or nifty GM tool? Some events have characters you can eve-mail. This is true for larger events - lasting several month. ___________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


SEP Aporat ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:15:00 - [8] Originally by: GoGo Yubari You know, beyond telling you AURORA types that I've been hearing good things about your performances as of late, the only thing I'd like to voice is the concern that I have about the RP/event/storyline concerns not really having a hand in shaping the game as we know it, ie. being involved as priorities in the game design part of the game. It's cool and all that there is an AURORA doing these things, but what I'd really like to see is all of that stuff better grounded into the game itself. It could be that Factional Warfare is a huge step in that direction, but I just wanted to mention that fact. Unless that happens, RP will be the wacky add-on and not truly live up to its potential. Not all events can have a major impact on EVE and the fiction that makes the story behind EVE. Larger events can have an impact on EVE - but it might not always. Sometimes its the story itself which is fascinating. ___________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:16:00 - [9] One thing about "advertising" events beforehand in general - as Aine said, it'd be problematic when a huge amount of players showed up. A worst-case scenario would be hundreds and hundreds of people in a system, and you all know what that leads to. Not to mention you'd likely get people who'd just try their best to ruin the event for others. No one wants that to happen. Also consider that the events are supposed to portray a part of "daily life" in the world of EVE. So you stumble upon them like you do to any unexpected situation. Not to mention that if you advertised an event beforehand, and then for some reason the event couldn't be held at the planned time, there'd be a lot of hatemail. But hopefully the recruitment drive will help more people to get to participate in events as the number of events run increases.


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 20:21:00 - [10] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Is there a way to contact the event NPCs after event, or between events for longer term thingies? ... e.g. a feed to a particular email address or nifty GM tool? Elsebeth - we can also be reached via [email protected]. Mails sent to that address are read by Nebulai and the other senior members of AURORA and directed out to producers if appropriate. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.19 21:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I know I can evemail them, BTDT. The question is when/if you actually read the mails...;) Thanks for the email addy, will try that next time when/if something comes up. It will of course depend on the producer whose character it is, and how often he checks for them. Generally if the character has important events going currently, the evemails are probably checked more frequently, while if the character's been inactive, obviously they're not checked or checked rarely. Common sense, really. But yeah, the email address is the best way of making sure you get heard if you have something to say


EP Baramos Minmatar ISD AURORA	Posted - 2006.09.19 21:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Hillesumos I have one simple question really: will Aurora and event in general go talky like the cinema. Since at some point in time, we will get an in-game voice system, is there any plan to add voice acting to the event. Would be cool to see how a real galente or caldari sound like.... I don't think this will happen due to a few reasons, one more humorous one would be that hearing someone like me try to use a 'womanly' voice, while amusing, would harm the event's atmosphere.


SEP Kerren Amarr ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 21:59:00 - [13] Edited by: SEP Kerren on 19/09/2006 22:01:59 I'll leave that one for braver men to answer Hillesumos: Well it's certainly a theory, but I have the feeling that it might be consigned to the ideas bin for a while [SEP]Kerren - Senior Event Producer ISD - AURORA


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 22:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/09/2006 22:04:34Just to clarify things, am I right in thinking that the delay in getting a new Emperor and President is down to CCP and not Aurora? CCP controls the progress and timing of both these events. AURORA has no control over either. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


SEP Engessa Minmatar ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 22:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Hakera although a year old, i think its still applicable to 'today' cough insorium cough Again this is something that is outside of our control. There are many things that some of us would like to get our sticky paws on but due to the high impact on the PF that certain things have, they are ouside of our control and left in the hands of CCP.


EA Thazaleh Gallente ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 23:34:00 - [16] Originally by: IzzyChan Originally by: EP Baramos Originally by: Hillesumos I have one simple question really: will Aurora and event in general go talky like the cinema. Since at some point in time, we will get an in-game voice system, is there any plan to add voice acting to the event. Would be cool to see how a real galente or caldari sound like.... I don't think this will happen due to a few reasons, one more humorous one would be that hearing someone like me try to use a 'womanly' voice, while amusing, would harm the event's atmosphere. Simple. Just hire some chicks. Who says we don't have any? ----------- Event Actor


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.19 23:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Omber Zombie Sorry to sound a little harsh here, but I believe at last years fanfest Neb mentioned that the Gallente Elections were being handed over to you guys from CCP control. I can't find the post atm, but it was mentioned somewhere here too. In the spirit of being helpful - is this the post you're referring to? Unfortunately that is old data. It's true that AURORA had hands on the elections at one point, but that is no longer true. I don't know the details (and even if I did I wouldn't be able to say) but the fact is that we do not at this time have any control or say over the progress of the elections, the emperor, the insorium arc or any other large-scale "racial" event. Believe me when I say that everyone in AURORA is interested in seeing these arcs turn out, as much or more so than the rest of the playerbase. Regrettably, we aren't any different from you in this - we're all waiting to see what will happen. It could change tomorrow, but at this time this is the situation. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


SEP Aporat ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 05:13:00 - [18] Edited by: SEP Aporat on 20/09/2006 05:13:37 Originally by: Caerleus Aurura - done by the few for the few.. Try spanning multiple events over a period of a week and have something happen in highly populated areas which more people can take part in. Then, hopefully, you will capture peoples imagination a little more and raise the profile a bit. This is not true. The dilemma here is 'touching' as many people as possible while at the same time expanding events to all regions and constellations in EVE. Combine that with the number of volunteers and you'll find that its virtually impossiple to touch all playes in EVE - but we do try. Regarding events spanning several weeks - we have them. Actually we have a lot of them. Events like these may run 2-4 times over a few weeks or even 20-30 times over several month (and everything in between of course). It all depends on what story you want to convey as a producer. ___________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 07:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Xander XacXorien I've played Eve for over 1.5+ years. I've never seen an event, heard of an event or heard of anyone ever being in an event. To people that say about this - check out the in-game News. Major events usually have a News items made out of them. There was the Nyx event, for example. Granted, not that many events make it to the news. Also in Intergalactic Summit people often discuss events in-character that they took part in. For example in relation to the Angel-Sansha war, or for that matter the Tetrimon arc. In conclusion, the events are out there. Not everyone runs into them, and that's unfortunate, but they're there. Hopefully in growing numbers in the future, too


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Revan Neferis I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. Can't comment on the Tetrimon side of things since I'm not involved with them personally, but generally AURORA plays a lot of bad guys too. Serpentis, Guristas and the like, and of course the various criminals in other non-faction events. It's up to the individual producer/event in the end how actors are assigned to tasks.


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.20 09:24:00 - [21] Originally by: James Snowscoran I resent the comment made about Serpentis being bad guys! Slander! Well, it's all in your point of view


Garthagk ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 10:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Ifni Why the perfect-record entry requirement? The rules have been created over the past years in response to specific incidents that have arisen. Additionally, to promise a fair try to everybody interested in joining the project, we must apply the rules equally to every applicant, regardless of how well known they are within the community. Anybody who has been rejected from AURORA (or never gotten a response to an application/interview/etc) is welcome to contact the leads directly via email to [email protected] with any questions. Yes, we answer our email. -------------- Garthagk Aurora Captain The Aurora Project


SEP Benjamin Caldari ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:12:00 - [23] Originally by: Par'Gellen I guess my main issue with events like these is the huge amount of confusion usually associated with them. "Will CONCORD kill me if I attack?" being the biggest one (and also the one that I see you guys are avoiding answering like grammatical ninjas). Can we get some general guidlines on what we can and can't do during an event? Aurora FAQ Will CONCORD attack? They are slightly outdated but you get the picture :) ----------------------------------------- SEP Benjamin Senior Event Producer ISD Aurora


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Revan Neferis I know for sure that Sani Sabik for example, since Omir vanished there is no Aurora at all interacting with "us". Well - that specific case would be because AURORA doesn't have control over the Blood Raiders. We can't interact with you from that perspective (i.e. members of that faction). Not to say we can't or wouldn't work with you in another way, but the Blooders are off the table atm. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


EP Cemetiere	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:59:00 - [25] Edited by: EP Cemetiere on 20/09/2006 19:04:05 Originally by: IzzyChan Originally by: EP Baramos Originally by: Hillesumos I have one simple question really: will Aurora and event in general go talky like the cinema. Since at some point in time, we will get an in-game voice system, is there any plan to add voice acting to the event. Would be cool to see how a real galente or caldari sound like.... I don't think this will happen due to a few reasons, one more humorous one would be that hearing someone like me try to use a 'womanly' voice, while amusing, would harm the event's atmosphere. Simple. Just hire some chicks. Nebulai is a chick, no matter what drunken photographic proof they may provide from last years fanfest i simply cannot believe that a man would choose a female character to play as, she hopes to prove me wrong at this year fanfest, but with a staff bar i doubt i will remember any of said proof. For those who post saying dont run events here in 0.0 or your events suck or therabouts. If you've been playing the game for years, and come across an event, surley like most you see it as a nice change of pace and perhaps a chance to get your corps face in the news. Unless your one of the frequent participants who expect to become exceedingly wealthy from minor participation. If you feel the events you've taken part in werent good enough, or too open ended (go to point a shoot/defend target x) signup and make a difference, if your not part of the soloution your part of the problem, that or a filthy carebear and its my duty to exterminate you.


EP Baramos Minmatar ISD AURORA	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Revan Neferis I guess I just have one question related to the whole aspect of involvement: Why do we have so many "good guys" Aurora and basically no "villains" aurora to support the other side? A sani sabik aurora? One aurora representing criminal factions ? etc etc.. would help a lot to make these events fair. I wouldn't say we have too many 'good guys'. If anything, it could be the other way around. But it depends on who you view as good or bad. Some people might see the Guristas as the good guys. Personally I've always liked the Guristas, and to an extent the Serpentis.


EP Baramos Minmatar ISD AURORA	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:32:00 - [27] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Actors also need to learn when talking in monologues is harming the event, some of the scripting sounds good on paper but when you mix it in between shouts of "lol" and "omg lag" it ends up sounding rehearsed and out of left field. There needs to be more improvisation and more socialization than dialogue, actors who care more about their characters than carrying out carefully sequenced events. Generally speaking, there is no scripting. Most events we have involve a set goal for the actors, and how they go about that goal, is not set in stone. We have some rules ofcourse, but I can't think of any event I've been in that was scripted. A speech event is probably the closest type that comes to mind.


SEP Gabriel ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Ifni Why is AURORA entry limited to those that are with a clean forum/game record (ie, no bans/warnings)? Such characters as DigitalCommunist, Viceroy and Istvaan would make excellent AURORA Senior Event Producers, and I believe at various times, were interested in doing so. Why the perfect-record entry requirement? It is like denying Michael Schumacher entry to an F1 race because he was caught speeding... As far as I know, a few minor violations (signatures and the like) do not bar you from joining Aurora. _______________________________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA


SEP Gabriel ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 22:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Xenofur two questions: are any events ever announced before they happen? if so, where? are they marked in a special way that makes recognizing the announcement easy? if yes, how are they marked? is there any way to read up on previous events? (reports, chatlogs, news entries, such-like) It is very rare that an event's time is announced beforehand, i.e. before it is run. This is to prevent exploitation of the events. However, news articles can give you a good idea about what is happening in certain areas of space, and you can find post-action reports when players post them. Originally by: Xenofur opinion on aurora's work: i'm coming from another mmorpg (SoR) that has at least weekly events and mostly smaller events during the week too. they manage to usually involve a big part of the userbase (which is admittedly quite smaller than here). i have in that game so far never missed an event i wanted to go to unless it was dictated through rl issues. i'm playing eve for 7+ months now, at least 6 of which i spent in empire, ranging from genesis to orvolle and through all cosmos constellations and surrounding regions. i have never once seen any event, heard of any event, i do not know one single person that was ever involved in an event nor do any of the people i know have ever heard of any of their friends being involved in events. until today i was of the opinion that eve doesn't have any events, aside from fake and pointless news entries. my opinion now is that i will most probably never see an event up until the day that i cancel my sub. First, news entries are not fake and pointless; in most cases, they refer to actual events that happened, whether Aurora or player. Second, as far as I know Saga of Ryzom has a paid events team. I'm not sure, but I remember hearing that was how they do so many events. They may also have more leeway with game mechanics or different tools to use within the game world. We are bound by the same tools that you have as a player. Ironically, one of the factors that has prevented you from seeing an event is one of Eve's greatest stengths: its size. With so many star systems and regions of space to act in, Aurora can only cover so much. For our larger event arcs, we may have recurring events in the same area over a long period of time. For months the Serpentis were active in Outer Ring and Fountain, interacting with local players fairly often. While they've moved on to other projects now, while that event arc was ongoing those players saw a lot of events. Unfortunately, we simply cannot give everyone in Eve an event, though we would love to. _______________________________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA


SEP Engessa Minmatar ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 22:26:00 - [30] Just to Address a few point here.. Originally by: DigitalCommunist Actors also need to learn when talking in monologues is harming the event, some of the scripting sounds good on paper but when you mix it in between shouts of "lol" and "omg lag" it ends up sounding rehearsed and out of left field. There needs to be more improvisation and more socialization than dialogue, actors who care more about their characters than carrying out carefully sequenced events. As its been pointed out, unless its a long winded speech i.e a Tetrimon speech at a Mass. The nothing is scripted, the reason being is that anothing can happen and normally does during an event. So scripting what RPC's say to each other wouldn't work. However we have a rule that means we try never respond to the "OMG Lag.." "WOW, how can i have blue/coloured text." and the other classic "R U GM'S CAN U SORT MY PETITION OUT. NOW.." we just ignore anything like that and remain IC. So other then speeches given at rally/press events then nothing is scripted. Originally by: DigitalCommunist This prevents cookie-cutter personality templates where the players regard the actor as more NPC than human. Even in real life, soldiers aren't rigid and humourless. Not all scientists are smart, or scientific. Traders don't have to be fair, or play by the rules. In the past we had out cookie cutter events due to our numbers which restricted us in what we could do plus the rules that we are governed by. But over the years we have grow and so have the list of things we are now allowed to do. Myself I have Lied, cheated and been a down right scoundrel in some events as that was my interprtation of the RPC.. In others I have been a bit of a joker and yet in others a teenage scatter brained minmatar speed jockey with a wild sence of humour. But saying that I can think of a few occations when an RPC behaved in a manner that didn't live up to the stereo type and was slated by the players so its a case of damned if we do damned if we don't. Originally by: DigitalCommunist Instead of having 7 1-hour events spread across three weeks, why not have a single 7-hour event? Play long enough for people to really get into it and have time to really organize their efforts than simply rush to the regroup system and bumrush the obstacle. It is very rare that an event lasts for just an hour.. the average time is about 3 hours not including the pre-event brief or the debrief at the end of the event. The longest event that was run was the Serp Titan event that was run by CCP which lasted about 16 hours. Now while some of us would love to run an event that lasted 7+ hours.. to a degree its not practical as due other commitments by many of the Volunteers.. Plus you have to remember we don't have the numbers of any of the major alliances or larger corps.. so meeting a fleet of 200 players when you have only 10 frigs isn't much fun for anyone including actors. (And yep.. been in a few events like that.) Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hard to be original when the characters get biomassed so often. They should be more like players, persistant, and affecting each others' business. For many of the major arc there are RPC's that are about.. I know of some that have been active for well over a year and a half and are still alive and well. This is a common practise for on going events and allows us to build working relationships with the players. For the smaller arcs and single run events then yes they do hit the biomass as we are not able to keep alive x thousend RPCs.


SEP Gabriel ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 22:37:00 - [31] Originally by: DigitalCommunist These two problems strike me as odd. Why are you recruiting people into Aurora who don't know the background fiction inside and out? There should be an exam during recruitment, tbh. And Aurora seldom uses PF entities (due to CCP imposed rules), so its hard to contradict anything thats been established because theres nothing established. The other problem is actors jumping into the event mid-way, or taking over a character for someone. This should simply not happen if you posted all relevant chatlogs internally so actors who are coming in mid-way know what has happened thoroughly. And a character should be played by a single person for the duration of its existance, unless theres been many months between use and the character is scheduled for rehash but the original player is not there. Yes, Aurora members know the background PF very well, but the risk still exists, and we work to minimize risk in our events. People are still people, and can make mistakes. Your suggestion of actors using the same characters is, unfortunately, impractical; if we had actors playing the same characters over and over again for every event, we would have to wait until every actor can fill every spot in the event. Since events may have over a dozen actors in it, it becomes close to impossible to schedule a time when no one has a conflict. For small events, with limited numbers of actors, it is possible. For larger ones, it's more difficult. We do pass on information and chatlogs, but it's difficult to remember. We have over 130 pages of CCP fiction and you might have 10 pages of logs to read through. Originally by: DigitalCommunist The three or even seven hour events shouldn't run into timezone problems. You can organize that beforehand and recruit actors into the arc who can play during those times. And I didn't mean that in the course of seven hours every one of the 15 people would be logged on. There only needs to be enough to provide continuity. People log and relog back in normal corporations, so why can't you? If we took ISD AURORA in its literal form, a corporation, you need the same qualities that every successful corporation exhibits. You need the people at the top to be fully active, playing several hours a day and treating it as their first priority. Then you need to have good communication: forums, teamspeak, channels. You need to have quality recruits. I really don't think I should be lecturing you on corporate structure, but you're severely underutilizing the powers of teal text. Its a carte blanche to do anything you want on a whim Long events do run into timezone problems, but not necessarily because of the timezones themselves. It's also because of real life issues: families, meals, commitments, etc. As the length increases, you run into these barriers. I'm not saying that it cannot be done, because it has; simply that it is much more difficult to do so. We do have these things. While I cannot go into Aurora's structure in detail, we have solved those problems. We also have a tremendous amount of planning and work for each event we produce, which may place limits on how many events we can run as many people have limited time. I personally only have a couple hours after work with which to devote to events. _______________________________________________ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.20 22:52:00 - [32] Not to mention - remember also that AURORA is a volunteer organization made up of EVE players specifically. Not only do we have work, school, family, sleep and all the other things other folk have that distract from EVE-diction - the vast majority of us also have commitments on our EVE player characters in addition to AURORA duties. Corp ops, alliance blobs, mining parties and everything else also leach away time from most AURORA actors and producers. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


EP Realek ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.21 09:10:00 - [33] Edited by: EP Realek on 21/09/2006 09:12:32 Originally by: Death Kill Then why not hire someone who has neither of these problems? Because volunteers dont get hired? Originally by: Death Kill I mean, I'd rather see my local firestation have employees that are ready to fight fire and treat it as their primary job then someone who has 'other things' to worry about. Are you willing to quit eve playing to produce fulltime events? No i didn't think so Originally by: Death Kill IT would be so much nicer if Aurora actually came up with players that have their RP charcter as an actual main than someone acting and only doing it once every 3 months. I concur, it would be nice to see some PF characters come to life. Unfortunatly we would have a lot of players complaining volunteers get free super chars, ships and items to kill people with. (Technically they do that quite a bit already ) - Realek Aurora Event Producer


Eris Discordia	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:16:00 - [34] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Quote: I really don't think I should be lecturing you on corporate structure, but you're severely underutilizing the powers of teal text. Its a carte blanche to do anything you want on a whim Teal text is not a carte blanche, ISD has very strict rules on what is allowed and what isn¦t. Aurora is also a lot more structured then you assume and they already have teamspeak for instance. In general what ISD needs are more dedicated volunteers, because the people who run it are some of the most organised people you will ever meet (and pretty good guys and girls too) Trapped in Signature Factory. Send help - Eris pink Dread


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:22:00 - [35] Originally by: Ifni You give your time for a free account, which is essentially being paid for services rendered. That's not much. Let's say you'd do one event a week, each taking (including planning, setting it up etc) 4 hours. That's 16 hours a month. So you'd get less than a dollar per hour. Who would give up playing their main for this "payment"? If I were really payed to do this stuff, sure I'd do more. But I'm not, so I can't, real life takes its toll. Being a volunteer has its small perks, but it's hardly a job, and as such, you can't really expect nearly as much from a volunteer compared to a full-time employee. Do realize that if AURORA hiring was stricter in the time the volunteers can put in etc, there'd be only a fraction of events run as compared to now, simply because there'd be no people to run them That said, yes, it'd be nice to have more freedoms with the event characters, especially the persistant ones, regarding player interaction and all that, and optimally they'd be played almost like player characters. But people don't have the time, and even if they did, there's certain guidelines in using event characters as it is which severely limit using them outside running actual events. This is basically to avoid any "abusing" of the event character system. As it is, each volunter puts in as much time as they feel they comfortably can, and frankly that's the way it should be


EP Realek ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: EP Realek Originally by: Death Kill Then why not hire someone who has neither of these problems? Because volunteers dont get hired? Err.. You give your time for a free account, which is essentially being paid for services rendered. Unfortunatly a free eve account is not an accepted method of payment in your average super market hence the need for employment. Originally by: Ifni Aren't all event characters supercharacters anyway? Usualy they are but if a vol was to play on the account full time (even though IC) people of course complain how its unfair that is account has all skills while theirs dont. - Realek Aurora Event Producer


Dogal ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:19:00 - [37] AURORA in 0.0 will continue working and most likely grow. AURORA works on story arcs towards Serpentis, Mordu's Legion, Guristas, Sansha, Angels and Sisters of EVE who all have their base of operation in 0.0. It can be both an asset and a curse to live around these fellows, time will tell depending on where alliance etc decides to stand. Originally by: Ifni if my memory serves, the last event i partook in was based in Khanid and ventured into Querious, for a Blood Raider arc. What essentially transpired was online in the system the event started and even saw Neb, if my memory serves, passing through ahead of the event to check all was well. The event started, several BR characters entered local in frigs/cruisers, travelled 5 jumps to the nearest 0.0/Empire chokepoint system, A2-V27, and stayed there for an hour or so, before eventually being killed by a rather bored on-looking crowd. You are correct that AURORA did fly as Blooders during the Insorum arc, however we did it on request from CCP since they wanted some help with Blood Raiders activity here and there, but the arc was run by CCP. Even though we can't do much with the Blood Raider storyline atm we can still have minor events with them but it would take a producer with inspiration to do so also. We don't serve the ones shouting most or highest, most of the times it is up to what the producer feels most inspired to do since where there is inspiration you'll have the best result. -------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected]


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Ifni What I suggest is that there be a player submission option, similar to the Interstellar Correspondant's news submission, to allow players involved with story arcs, to potentially alter the impending direction of various arcs, behind the scenes. [email protected] If you've got an idea, something cool you want to propose, some angle on an arc that's progressing or pretty much anything else - send it there. Neb and the leads read it and if it's relevant and decent they send it out for the rest of us to consider. No promises that everything sent in will be acted upon - producers have our own ideas for arcs in progress that may not jive with some suggestions, and frankly not all submitted ideas are either workable or interesting to produce. Speaking for myself only however, I tried as much as I could to incorporate player requests and suggestions into the arc that I ran recently. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


SEP Bolonium ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:31:00 - [39] About finding and getting involved in events, we do our best to make our presence known through news articles and even forum posts in the Intergalactic Summit. If anyone ever really wants to get involved in an event we try to make it pretty easy to find out which RPC to contact or where things are happening. There may be some minor investigative work involved, nothing too intense though. Originally by: Death Kill Now pretty please give us some more events, cant you do another frigate march or something? Working on it. Well, the events, not the frigate march ============================ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA ============================


SEP Bolonium ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.23 09:11:00 - [40] Originally by: Leon 026 Only real problem with that however, is that there arent exactly many Guristas RP corporations, so we (the ebil piwate faction roleplayers) hardly see "villain" AURORA actors. I know for myself and the Blood Inquisition (due to BR having good standings with the G's) would really welcome a representative from the Guristas and other small chat/negotiation/political meetings with the Guristas, merely for the sake of interaction with the "villains" as it seems that the Blood Raiders are off AURORA's table. Maybe I'm being picky but I don't think you can divide factions into "Good vs Evil." In some other place possibly, but in EVE there are a lot of shades of grey and it's hard to really say "Wow, those guys are totally evil." That's one of the things that make the EVE fiction interesting to work with. I think all of the factions we work with are pretty nasty guys. From the Sansha's, Gurrista's, Arch Angel's, Serpentis (That's not a full list but those are the various obligatory 'bad guys') to the Tetrimon and Khanid (Not a full list either, but what some consider to be 'good guys' although I respectfully disagree). There is a pretty good representation of bad guys. Although, as noted above I consider the Tetrimon to be pretty bad guys too. EVE is really about grey vs grey I think. And as for working with any of these factions. I recommend doing some investigative work that I mentioned above and I think you'll find it easier then expected to figure out how to get intouch with these guys. Or send an eve-mail to [email protected] saying you'd like to get involved with a certain faction. No guarantees on that but it'll let the appropriate producer know you'd like to get involved. ============================ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA ============================


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.23 19:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Wolfgang Jager 1) Attackability of Aurora actors. Yeah - that's a problem from our side as well. It gives us an extra thing to take into account beyond the normal. We also have to account for the fact that players attacking players in high sec leads to bad things as well. I think that improvements to the gang logic to allow mutual defence is on our wishlist, but realistically we're going to have to work within the system as it exists for a while I think. Swapping attackability from character to character is even more problematic though, as there is no visible flag that tells you which actors are safe to shoot and which ones aren't. We really don't want to get to the point where players have to second-guess whether shooting an actor will result in their death. Originally by: Wolfgang Jager 2) Working with people in events Hmm - not sure what I can say here. Sometimes an actor might be playing a stubborn / inexperienced / incompetent character or the actor might genuinely be inexperienced in that scenario. AURORA recruits from all player types (Industrialists, pirates, fleet commanders, etc) and experience levels (only in EVE for a few months to people that were in beta). The demands of a story might not allow us to constantly operate in our "comfort zones" (which is incidentaly one of the coolest things about acting - I've been exposed to more diverse things as an actor than I ever would have as a player). Originally by: Wolfgang Jager 3) Rewards - I have a couple of concerns here. One is simply that Aurora event coordinators should have the ability to apply standing changes. We actually do have that ability, and we're starting to use it more frequently. A couple of events with standing changes that come to mind are the Stacmon incident (sec status changes) and the InoTech arc (Caldari Navy standings changes). It's somewhat labour intensive to do it though, so if it's mostly members of the same corp we'll often adjust corp standings rather than the standings of every individual member present (not to mention that will usually make more sense IC). Originally by: Wolfgang Jager Secondly, a better understanding of what levels of reward are appropriate. Rewards are the thing I find hardest to judge. Especially since every players concept of a fair reward is different. Some would rather have less ISK / module rewards and more standings / "soft" rewards (like the ability to call in a favour from an NPC entity). Others want a reward exactly equal to what they would have earned if they ran missions or mined for the duration of the event. Still others don't want any reward beyond being part of an event. We tend to bounce ideas off each other for sanity checks, and we're always willing to listen to what the playerbase regards as "fair" in terms of rewards. Remember our mail address. Originally by: Wolfgang Jager 4) Situational awareness: Again tough to comment on, especially since hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes the producer is stuck logisically (i.e. there is no other way but to drive a freighter through Jita at primetime) or is trying to maximise the number of players "touched" by the event. Other times it might be the inexperience factor (either as a player or as a producer), or something overlooked in planning, or simply a mistake (we are human afterall). We do try to bounce ideas off each other to catch the possible problems, but sometimes things just take on a life of their own . Thanks for the thanks BTW - it's nice to have your work appreciated. We do this stuff mainly for your entertainment afterall. ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


EP Weichor	Posted - 2006.09.24 16:46:00 - [42] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide it would be nice to have some more small random events in low sec or even high sec for younger chars... like hunt down a known pirate who just managed to steal 'whatever' from 'any faction'. Actually events like this are indeed run. Of course they could me run more often. Originally by: Kim Chee I've only ever seen one event (and I couldn't take part as I had to log off within a few minutes), but from the local channel, I got the impression that folks didn't really know what was going on. The biggest objections I saw were from young players who were concerned about not having a big enough ship to help, or not knowing what they were in for. Those are indeed problems. People don't seem to know what events are, and most people don't react to them in any way. It can be frustating when you're doing an event with over a hundred people in local, and only maybe two or three participate.


EP Ailay ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.25 15:04:00 - [43] Originally by: Evelgrivion Perhaps smaller, extremely open ended events could be introduced that start of with mere presence. Come in and out a few times, and occasionally dissappear into dead-zones in sectors, and let the players decide how to interact with the random groups, like a small Gallente patrol in low-sec space looking for troublemakers. Something like that would be interesting :) Evelgrivion, I am interested in this idea. Altho the example of using a Gallante patrol is somewhat difficult as we are restricted by the use of faction ships and pilots. I recon it's something to look into. Could you give an detailed example using a non-excisting corporation. I am willing to see if it can be done. No promises as it's not always possible but i am definately willing to give it a try.


EP Aine ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.25 20:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Saibotek How about a Suggestion..? Automated Mining Operation Intervention.. we all know what it is. /me grins. You're not the first to suggest a little judicious belt-cleaning. When it comes right down to it though, AURORA can't even begin to justify an event focusing on that particular element for a couple of reasons: 1) If we got it wrong in the slightest (bad intel, over-eager actors or whatever) - we're now griefing legit customers of CCP. For that reason alone we'd never consider an event of this type. If we were sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that some automated hijinks were going down then why would bother eventing? It would be an open and shut GM petition and the accounts in question would be banned. 2) Remember that everything AURORA does is in-character. This means that we'd need to come up with an in-character reason why an event is targetting specific miners. From an in-game perspective, every logged in account is an individual within the EVE cluster. Our characters don't know what a "macro-miner" is so there's no way to persecute them specifically. The EVE GM's are here to enforce the out-of-game rules and regulations made by CCP. They do a fine job as it is, we don't need to crowd them. Now the idea of having an invasion of low sec by a pirate faction, requiring a large-scale response to reinforce the faction navy / CONCORD. That has some legs to it. Hmmm.... ----------- Aine Tier 2 Events Producer AURORA


Dogal ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.26 10:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Rodj Blake Are there any plans to revive this story arc? We had a lot of fun over several weeks tracking, capturing and then transporting the prisoner, only for the arc to seemingly die without us knowing what it was all about. Aha, the Takamatsu Trading Corp arc. Well the garbage scandal did end in a very bright and deadly fashion if I'm not mistaken. http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=970&tid=6 http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=971&tid=6 http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=989&tid=6 After the disaster with their base of operation wiped out the Takamatsu Trading Corp went very silent.. -------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected]


Dogal ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.26 11:32:00 - [46] AHA! Now I know what arc you mean (I had to go and dig in very very old archives for this one). Takamatsu did indeed have a small part in this arc, subtle one but it was there, hence my misconception. The Amarrians moved back to Misaba and after that re-located to a new (secret) place to continue the research. Who knows what Lord Sorn has been doing these last 1+ years. One of the producers from this arc is still around in AURORA but otherwise engaged. Who knows if all memories some of us get back now will make a second stage come up, but Tetrimon group have the hands full atm with Tetrimon, Cult of Catechization and a few other new things - some just starting up and a few more waiting final approval to be unleashed. -------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected]


SEP JakeRed ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.26 17:06:00 - [47] Originally by: Leon 026 <Thoughtful stuff...> It's good to know that some people are thinking on the level that we, as Aurora, have to consider every time we hash out ideas for new arcs on the faction level.


SEP Bolonium ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.27 00:26:00 - [48] Very good points, Leon. Those are things we try to think about when we deal on a factional level. One thing to consider is that the Amarr Empire actually IS more numerous, probably many times that of the Sani Sabik. Unfortunately in the gritty world of EVE that makes them the "Legitimate Empire" and the Sani Sabik "Pirates" because they disagree with the Empire's policies. The Blood Raider's in particular are vicious which is why I think they're written about so harshly. That's also why they're the ones people shoot at in the asteroid belts. The Amarr though, aren't exaclty written about in the best light either and any Minmatar can see the evil within them. Propaganda is an interesting side point and there isn't much we can do about that. If players wish to see the Amarr Empire as "Good guys." Then they can but it turns into a slippery slope with some of the bad things they do. It is all about preception, that's one of the things that does make it "Grey" vs "True good" or "True evil". ============================ Senior Event Producer ISD AURORA ============================

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