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Allamar Gallente MySpace.com	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:06:00 - [1] Everyone knows there is a big distinction between a mega pvp corp (> ~250 members) and a small pvp corp (< ~100 members). They both have strengths and weaknesses, but what I think is cool is the people who manage these big groups..dedicated more than a lot of leaders Ive seen before, also that a group of people like this can accomplish really great things, including blob . I wonder with other thread about this subject what corps are big and who are popular. Please write 5 corps, each not in the same alliance as others.
Bamsie State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:08:00 - [2] REd alliance Red Alliance rED aLliance ReD allIAnce rEd ALLIance
LWMaverick Quam Singulari	Posted - 2006.09.20 08:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Bamsie REd alliance Red Alliance rED aLliance ReD allIAnce rEd ALLIance First: Read Then: Think <3
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 12:07:00 - [4] Think you'll find people aren't answering because they don't know how many members most corps have.
Gunship Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 12:19:00 - [5] 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important So you want to join us?
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 12:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.09.20 12:23:00 - [7] Edited by: God''s Army on 20/09/2006 12:23:50 Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol anotherbiglol ---- R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
Bazman Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.20 12:34:00 - [8] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol lol if you want, but pre alliance times, that would have been right. I can't think of any single corp now though that has 250 active members let alone 150 :P ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente Whiner. Minmatar Whining is currently in training.
Babs Johnson MetaForge Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:25:00 - [9] So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. No offense to the op. You're just following the crowd, making this forum what they want it to be. It's just that it could be so much more, as it once was.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Babs Johnson So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. No offense to the op. You're just following the crowd, making this forum what they want it to be. It's just that it could be so much more, as it once was. What used to be corp once is now alliance. I liked this game more when it had 10k players. --------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Babs Johnson So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. No offense to the op. You're just following the crowd, making this forum what they want it to be. It's just that it could be so much more, as it once was. UNBAN THE MAINS! Originally by: Rodj Blake People have been complaining about the poor state of PvP since May 2003. That doesn't mean that it was hopeless then, and it doesn't mean that it's hopeless now.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:39:00 - [12] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best??
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:41:00 - [13] Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime?
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/09/2006 13:56:19 I think Shinra has excellent fleet commanders, good discipline and the few times I've been moving around with them, were just fun, because the fleet commander had a good nose/style or whatever to get us targets / a fight. (It's been a few months ago.) But I've no real means to compare them to other large pvp-corps. So I have no clue were they stand in that list.
Xendie Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Babs Johnson So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. CCP GIVE US ALTS BACK Originally by: KIATolon I just got owned
OriaZ Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? Your opinion is just insignificant. We lost some and won some fights against Celes/Outbreak, fact is Celes is nowhere to be seen now, and Outbreak moved to kill somewhere else. And Thol was pointing at Raid, not Celes/Outbreak ... so plz ... stfu. Would still do a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime tho. Black Nova Corp French Wing BOB Caldari Alliance Championship Winners
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 15:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? Yeah thats exactly what i was saying. Obviously by saying your not the best out there i was really saying lets have a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 Dude
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? No? Originally by: Rodj Blake People have been complaining about the poor state of PvP since May 2003. That doesn't mean that it was hopeless then, and it doesn't mean that it's hopeless now.
mallina Caldari Turbulent	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:04:00 - [20] i saw the vid of that 30v30, the pilots were from all BoB corps, not just DICE- also, they still had the majority of their fleet left at the end of it, so i dont see how they could have lost 30 BS yes, bob lost a fight - big deal :/ im sure since then they've won a hell of a lot more though. as for megacorps uh... DICE and RAT are the only real ones i can think of. i'd say Shinra solely because of style but i cant say ive really seem them in action. also isnt this the 4th thread like this today? ----------- <3 Turbulance
Xendie Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:06:00 - [21] Originally by: OriaZ Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? Your opinion is just insignificant. We lost some and won some fights against Celes/Outbreak, fact is Celes is nowhere to be seen now, and Outbreak moved to kill somewhere else. And Thol was pointing at Raid, not Celes/Outbreak ... so plz ... stfu. Would still do a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime tho. lol i understand that you want to obscure a few facts from the general public about your pvp skills im sorry if i saw it as a generally looking chestbeating display that call for a equal fight with him implying that nobody could beat you. celest and outbreak did however annihilate you in even fights and that was especially evident in that was it 32vs32 if im not entirely wrong wich im not. the numbers were even at around 30-32 per side though. i also noticed that you dont wanna play anymore with celest and are now camping a station 23/7 while they are not in the station. didnt you just loose the "pvp skill" war against them now that you have to be 10 times their numbers. bob got a few good pvp players but im afraid that the general population of bob is not any better then any other blobbing group of carebears and celest and outbreak has proved it, they play on hard mode and you just tries to play it in easy mode. and of course my opinion matters, i am allowed to post as much as i want on these forums as are you and thol. just keep it inside the rules though and you can continue to post. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:13:00 - [22] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: OriaZ Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? Your opinion is just insignificant. We lost some and won some fights against Celes/Outbreak, fact is Celes is nowhere to be seen now, and Outbreak moved to kill somewhere else. And Thol was pointing at Raid, not Celes/Outbreak ... so plz ... stfu. Would still do a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime tho. lol i understand that you want to obscure a few facts from the general public about your pvp skills im sorry if i saw it as a generally looking chestbeating display that call for a equal fight with him implying that nobody could beat you. celest and outbreak did however annihilate you in even fights and that was especially evident in that was it 32vs32 if im not entirely wrong wich im not. the numbers were even at around 30-32 per side though. i also noticed that you dont wanna play anymore with celest and are now camping a station 23/7 while they are not in the station. didnt you just loose the "pvp skill" war against them now that you have to be 10 times their numbers. bob got a few good pvp players but im afraid that the general population of bob is not any better then any other blobbing group of carebears and celest and outbreak has proved it, they play on hard mode and you just tries to play it in easy mode. and of course my opinion matters, i am allowed to post as much as i want on these forums as are you and thol. just keep it inside the rules though and you can continue to post. And once again your ignorance is shining through. Keep it up though. Originally by: Rodj Blake People have been complaining about the poor state of PvP since May 2003. That doesn't mean that it was hopeless then, and it doesn't mean that it's hopeless now.
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:17:00 - [23] Shame these threads have to turn into a flame fest Bob win some, we win some. Currently we are badly outnumbered we have adapted and are continuing as normal. Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:20:00 - [24] Edited by: Louisa Torres on 20/09/2006 16:20:56 Originally by: Kaleeb Shame these threads have to turn into a flame fest Bob win some, we win some. Currently we are badly outnumbered we have adapted and are continuing as normal. It's unfortunately the way of the world, Kaleeb. I just personally find how xendie comments that we "blob" because we're "losing" when over the last few months we've purposefully kept the numbers down, quite amusing. At this time only BNC are in Fountain. One corp. Xendie can cry us a river if he thinks that's blobbing. He can also build the bridge and get over it if he thinks that we got "owned" by TOXIN / CELES when, again, we rotated and made sure we never had more than TWO corps up there, at all times matching numbers when we could have just as easily brought in the rest of the brotherhood and, yes, blobbed us all in to boredom. Sure, we lost some even fights, we lost some ganks, we also quite convincingly won some fights and won some ganks. We all enjoyed it, a shame someone that wasn't even there deems it necessary to flame us for it. Originally by: Rodj Blake People have been complaining about the poor state of PvP since May 2003. That doesn't mean that it was hopeless then, and it doesn't mean that it's hopeless now.
callonious Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:20:00 - [25] Your in a corp called Myspace....DIE HEATHEN :S Myspace = lose but also on topic umm pffft i dont know do most corps even have that many active members :S ive ive seen dice corp chat over 100 so we might i dont know :S ------------------------------------------------------------
OriaZ Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:23:00 - [26] Originally by: Xendie celest and outbreak did however annihilate you in even fights and that was especially evident in that was it 32vs32 if im not entirely wrong wich im not. "Annihilate" ... lol. Originally by: Xendie i also noticed that you dont wanna play anymore with celest and are now camping a station 23/7 while they are not in the station. Celestial got their own "annihilation" like you call it in our last engagement and we are camping the left overs in station atm. Originally by: Xendie didnt you just loose the "pvp skill" war against them now that you have to be 10 times their numbers. It's just BNC out here atm, so 10 times their numbers ... go take some maths lessons. If they can get a gang going, we can maybe start shooty shooty again. Originally by: Xendie celest and outbreak has proved it, they play on hard mode and you just tries to play it in easy mode. They proved what ? We're still here, waiting for a fight. Originally by: Xendie and of course my opinion matters, i am allowed to post as much as i want on these forums as are you and thol. just keep it inside the rules though and you can continue to post. Your opinion matters regarding general information / opinions, not on BOB vs Celes because you're not part of any of the involved parties. Giving your opinion using the info you get from your old Celes corp mates is not objective. Black Nova Corp French Wing BOB Caldari Alliance Championship Winners
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:24:00 - [27] Well ok... you have callonious ill give you that.. And my LOL was more directed at my good buddies in Shinra than ATUK err i mean dice.. But it still stands.. you can probably find the top 5 5v5, 10v10 and 15v15 corps outside of DICE and Shinra. RAT? SAS? E-R? TOXIN? Celes? there are so many.
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? no malken, and it would have been 28 outbreak and 2 celes.
callonious Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Raid Well ok... you have callonious ill give you that.. <3, I'd still be in tyrell if Semp didnt say me and hellspawn had to be so active :( bloody college. ------------------------------------------------------------
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:34:00 - [30] Originally by: Tholarim 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? meh. vs players of your type or Hast's. ok but you have lots of unexperienced players in DICE that seem to have joined in either because they had lot's of money either because they wanted to have the "BOB" tag. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:40:00 - [31] Originally by: callonious Originally by: Raid Well ok... you have callonious ill give you that.. <3, I'd still be in tyrell if Semp didnt say me and hellspawn had to be so active :( bloody college. What? Why the hell are you listening to Semp! Come back, we have targets!
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Tholarim 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? meh. vs players of your type or Hast's. ok but you have lots of unexperienced players in DICE that seem to have joined in either because they had lot's of money either because they wanted to have the "BOB" tag. I don't disagree we have alot of ppl in dice that weren't there before. But they aren't less skilled or capable then the old crew m8. Maybe not as seasoned
Ghargon The Bratwurst Burglars	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:47:00 - [33] This seems to have turned into a BOB hate fest, now i'm no bob fanboy infact quite the oposite but that doesn't mean that i don't respect what theyve done. However speeking from personal experience i'd have to say that i don't feel that DICE are the best that BOB has. I also don't feel that Shinra are as great as some people think. The fact is that when you get corps with such big numbers the chance of getting bad eggs as it where in your member base is very high and of course this brings down a corps reputation. So i don't feel there can be a top 5 mega pvp corps because there is no real way to judege distictively. I never think of the future - It comes soon enough
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 16:56:00 - [34] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 20/09/2006 16:39:54 Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? no malken, and it would have been 28 outbreak and 2 celes. There was 13 Celes involved and 7 of the 32 BoB bs escaped the initial engagement. A further 4 were destroyed when you tried to come in at range later in the fight. We won because we combined our strengths with Outbreaks. On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. Knew we shouldn't have trusted that insta undock! :P edit: As for our presence in Fountain we're very much still around. As Kaleeb says an adjustment in tactics was required to maintain some semblence of fun. Cya in space. And then we had an engagement later that week which went the other way. So is this what it has turned in to? "omg we owned you", "no omg we owned yuo back!"? Brilliant. Originally by: Rodj Blake People have been complaining about the poor state of PvP since May 2003. That doesn't mean that it was hopeless then, and it doesn't mean that it's hopeless now.
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Louisa Torres So is this what it has turned in to? "omg we owned you", "no omg we owned yuo back!"? We owned u! I dont think it has come down to that, the thing is celes,outbreak and bob have some very good players and some very large ego's and a hell of alot of pride. Both groups at some stage have had it dented, if the celes posts seem smacky or whatever it isnt for any other reason than we are proud of our corp and its accomplishments (just as you are of yours) and when those fights are swept under the carpet it ranckles abit to those that were there Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:09:00 - [36] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 20/09/2006 16:39:54 Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? no malken, and it would have been 28 outbreak and 2 celes. There was 13 Celes involved and 7 of the 32 BoB bs escaped the initial engagement. A further 4 were destroyed when you tried to come in at range later in the fight. We won because we combined our strengths with Outbreaks. On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. Knew we shouldn't have trusted that insta undock! :P edit: As for our presence in Fountain we're very much still around. As Kaleeb says an adjustment in tactics was required to maintain some semblence of fun. Cya in space. And then we had an engagement later that week which went the other way. So is this what it has turned in to? "omg we owned you", "no omg we owned yuo back!"? Brilliant. This is what it always turns into Louisa, both sides have their loud mouths. Tholarim is trying make us look bad, I'm trying to rectify that.
Zedic Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:09:00 - [37] Of course I'm biased towards Shinra - but that doesn't actually include me lol... I'm a bit of a nublet I'm afraid. Some good pvp pilots I've seen are those guys way up north we were messing with a few weeks ago, forget who and where exactly, but they were awesome players, no smack, no sketchy tactics, just good fun and good fights. As much as I despise xDeathx Squadron, they certainly do know how to play the game. Except for that time I go past their impromptu gate camp outside 9-9 in my bestower lolz. Zed
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:14:00 - [38] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 20/09/2006 16:39:54 Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Xendie didnt you have a 30vs30 with celes/outbreak recently and lost 30 battleships? no malken, and it would have been 28 outbreak and 2 celes. There was 13 Celes involved and 7 of the 32 BoB bs escaped the initial engagement. A further 4 were destroyed when you tried to come in at range later in the fight. We won because we combined our strengths with Outbreaks. On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. Knew we shouldn't have trusted that insta undock! :P edit: As for our presence in Fountain we're very much still around. As Kaleeb says an adjustment in tactics was required to maintain some semblence of fun. Cya in space. And then we had an engagement later that week which went the other way. So is this what it has turned in to? "omg we owned you", "no omg we owned yuo back!"? Brilliant. This is what it always turns into Louisa, both sides have their loud mouths. Tholarim is trying make us look bad, I'm trying to rectify that. i never brought in killratio's. Only the amount of celes in a gang. hardly any chestbeating going on there. Just a fact of life that outbreak ran and operated the big gangs you had in yz-.
callonious Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:15:00 - [39] Originally by: welsh wizard This is what it always turns into Louisa, both sides have their loud mouths. Tholarim is trying make us look bad, I'm trying to rectify that. He has to try? XD, btw got another 800m spare? ------------------------------------------------------------
Mang0o Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:39:00 - [40] hmm hmmmmm 0utbreak is kinda cool now.. Celes has more respect in my book now.. EDF is really cool guys (vote for own corp is kinda lame) RAT. has allways been a cool corp..(vote for enemys kinda lame aswell) and ehm.. yeah thats it (mega corp for me is 100man + ) I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:57:00 - [41] Originally by: callonious Originally by: welsh wizard This is what it always turns into Louisa, both sides have their loud mouths. Tholarim is trying make us look bad, I'm trying to rectify that. He has to try? XD, btw got another 800m spare? 800m?
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 17:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? Yeah thats exactly what i was saying. Obviously by saying your not the best out there i was really saying lets have a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 Dude Bitter? By the way, how far off is this -CC- disbandment I've been hearing about? Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:08:00 - [43] Edited by: Manfred Sideous on 20/09/2006 18:11:36 Edited by: Manfred Sideous on 20/09/2006 18:10:33 Let me break this down for the lamers. When you Pew Pew you will sometimes die and sometimes kill others no matter how U84H you think you are. BOB TOXIN and CELEST have all clearly demonstrated time and time again they are a force to be reckoned with. Now what does that mean? It means when you face them you are facing quality opponents who have a very high chance of beating you. But OMG STOP THE PRESSES YOU MIGHT BEAT THE TOO OMGZ. A LITTLE INSIGHT A real PVP'r has fun win or lose. Its all about the PEW PEW!!!
VonKaplanek III Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.20 18:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Babs Johnson So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. No offense to the op. You're just following the crowd, making this forum what they want it to be. It's just that it could be so much more, as it once was. Totally Agreed..
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 19:31:00 - [45] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer By the way, how far off is this -CC- disbandment I've been hearing about? CC Disbanding again... Class --------
Dracolich North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.09.20 19:35:00 - [46] There is no way of knowing who is in top 5 pvp corp, when its unclear what we are actually talking about as reference... Strategy, tactics, skillpoints, wallets, numbers, experience... well, its pretty unclear. One thing is certain however - it does not matter at all imho. What I find interesting about megacorps as OP indirectly states; management from the leaders of these corps. However I don't know enough to give a top 5 rating. Another interesting top 5 would be best FCs, though I don't think anyone would state those.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:22:00 - [47] Originally by: Babs Johnson So sad that this forum has been reduced to top five lists and corp recognition surveys. Once upon a time there was spirited and eloquent debate here, and this forum was an integral part of gameplay. And now it's just drivel. No offense to the op. You're just following the crowd, making this forum what they want it to be. It's just that it could be so much more, as it once was. Without wanting to question the quality of moderation (I know it can be a hard task), the 'spirited and eloquent debate' is often sadly interpreted as flaming/trolling/what-not. Too bad there isn't a widely used alternative site for 'quality debate'. King Liu is RIGHT!!
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Raid Yeah thats exactly what i was saying. Obviously by saying your not the best out there i was really saying lets have a 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 Dude Bitter? By the way, how far off is this -CC- disbandment I've been hearing about? Bitter about what? If ever decided to disband one things for sure Nebba.. Shinra would have nothing to do with it. Fact is your boys are as overrated as it can get. Go back to your 50 man gang.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:35:00 - [49] Originally by: Raid Bitter about what? If ever decided to disband one things for sure Nebba.. Shinra would have nothing to do with it. Fact is your boys are as overrated as it can get. Go back to your 50 man gang. At least we can survive without staying in docking range of an NPC station. --------
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:41:00 - [50] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Raid Bitter about what? If ever decided to disband one things for sure Nebba.. Shinra would have nothing to do with it. Fact is your boys are as overrated as it can get. Go back to your 50 man gang. At least we can survive without staying in docking range of an NPC station. Yeah thats right im in docking range right now. Oh noes! theres the mighty enslaver lets all run. I stand by my previous statement.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.20 20:46:00 - [51] Hmmm this is going to turn into an ugly flame war. Ill stop here i think
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:14:00 - [52] Originally by: Raid Hmmm this is going to turn into an ugly flame war. Ill stop here i think Yes, be quiet, I am drunk
Sky Hunter Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:37:00 - [53] You signature gives me all kinds of thoughts Chowdown....im unsure what are they in particular but they make me very worry... -=-
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar Black Reign Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Raid Hmmm this is going to turn into an ugly flame war. Ill stop here i think Yes, be quiet, I am drunk ROFL...come to Copenhagen with Omaha,12x, stig and HatePeaceLovewar and be drunk again, with us
Corey Grim FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 21:59:00 - [55] Originally by: Raid Shinra would have nothing to do with it. Fact is your boys are as overrated as it can get. ahem as i dont personally actually hate Tyrell neither you Raid, (dont know if u remember me it was long time ago) that comment true or not was not really smart. considering i thought ur not annoying guy. i have some respect to Tyrell but not that much that i could look those words without laughing, not coz of i agree or disagree with that just coz who that came from.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.20 22:08:00 - [56] Edited by: Darcuese on 20/09/2006 22:15:02 Dedication is key word...(I think)....EDIT: and variaty No really, you cant judge mega corps based on combat only. Or title would say, MEGA pew pew Corps. But dedication for variaty of different tasks, corp members are doing...and WITH SUCCES...is the difference between forum ***s, killboard ***s and Good mega corps. As I have been part of Atuk/DICE 80% of my EVE time...I can honestly say without any chest beeting.....THAT IS IT. That is what one corp should look like. Its not perfect, far from it....but, IMHO, certinaly closest then any other corp in EVE. Variaty of fights that we won , variaty of logistic succeses, forum skills,etc...all done only by member respond to corp needs....well, still some milk on the market...I suggest you go buy it PS: This is personal expiriance...If i would part of others mentioned corp, I might would say different stuff (I doubt though)....but didnt encounter much of them that I could respect as i respect my corp ...and we have been around, thats for sure -------------------------------------------- Space available for advertising atm
Dray Caldari Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.09.20 23:37:00 - [57] Originally by: LUKEC What used to be corp once is now alliance. I liked this game more when it had 10k players. This comment is true its painful
Corey Grim FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.20 23:46:00 - [58] Edited by: Corey Grim on 20/09/2006 23:47:19 Originally by: Dray Originally by: LUKEC What used to be corp once is now alliance. I liked this game more when it had 10k players. This comment is true its painful well i wasnt here when "corp was ~alliance" but i Love being in alliance for numerous reasons and one of them theres allways something happening no matter what time u log in, i think alliances pretty much solved lot of timezone/liferhytm problems. well anyways this starts to be useless rambling now, but back to topic so to say: there are now top 5 mega corporations, there are only the best¦s and the rest.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:54:00 - [59] @Xan , dude get some friggin clue b4 u post that load of ignorant BS u keep posting all the time. CELES and Toxin were fighting off aginst BNC and DICE at start and fightes were going both ways we win soem we lose some coz it was just dual then EVOL and RKK replaced BNC and DICE and it went on more, they didnt come to take space or anything just came in to have some fun fights and we so did we , Outbreak left and celes are now squeezed tight and only BNC is up there finishing them off , if we wanted to make this a slaughter we would have not just sent 2 corps now would we ?? "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel @Xan , dude get some friggin clue b4 u post that load of ignorant BS u keep posting all the time. CELES and Toxin were fighting off aginst BNC and DICE at start and fightes were going both ways we win soem we lose some coz it was just dual then EVOL and RKK replaced BNC and DICE and it went on more, they didnt come to take space or anything just came in to have some fun fights and we so did we , Outbreak left and celes are now squeezed tight and only BNC is up there finishing them off , if we wanted to make this a slaughter we would have not just sent 2 corps now would we ?? You'll never finish us off dude, not aslong as you keep providing precisely what we're in Fountain for.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:58:00 - [61] Originally by: Nifel Originally by: welsh wizard On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. BoB as an entity doesn't mind close range combat. We do however hate the idea of ECM on every BS since we as an entity view it as *. The best defense against lots of ECM on the enemy BS is to come in ultra long range so guess what we do ^^. And that is relevant to us how? And the best defence against ECM is ***** backup arrays moron. Disclaimer: I am posting like I would if I was as arrogant as a BoB member. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:12:00 - [62] ffs plim.
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:24:00 - [63] Another thread gone horribly wrong
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:25:00 - [64] Originally by: welsh wizard ffs plim. What? They are being completely school yard. Thoralim practically asked a guy for a fight after his maths lesson. Who gives a crap, i'm not doing the vieled insult crap with these kids. Hail and kill. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:35:00 - [65] Originally by: Plim Originally by: welsh wizard ffs plim. What? They are being completely school yard. Thoralim practically asked a guy for a fight after his maths lesson. Who gives a crap, i'm not doing the vieled insult crap with these kids. Hail and kill. Wow
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:52:00 - [66] Hi turbo, how are you
Zedic Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:00:00 - [67] Quote: Its all about the PEW PEW!!! LIES! Clearly it's, PEW PEW PEW!!!! Zed
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:19:00 - [68] Originally by: Plim Originally by: Nifel Originally by: welsh wizard On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. BoB as an entity doesn't mind close range combat. We do however hate the idea of ECM on every BS since we as an entity view it as *. The best defense against lots of ECM on the enemy BS is to come in ultra long range so guess what we do ^^. And that is relevant to us how? And the best defence against ECM is *** backup arrays moron. Disclaimer: I am posting like I would if I was as arrogant as a BoB member. It is relevant to CELES as that's what you do on nearly every BS? At least when I was up there. 0utbreak did the same thing. And I disgress about backup arrays being the best defense against defense against ECM. For starters it's the wrong module as the medslot variant is much more effective and secondly it's much more effective to be outside the effective range of ECM put on a standard BS as you can have full firepower and near enough completely negate the effect of ECM compared to just lowering the chance of being jammed with backup arrays. And I also have to point out you fail in your arrogance as a BoB wannabe. Not near enough arrogance and your forum fu is weak as evidenced by resorting to the use of the word moron. It's much like a toddler throwing toys at soldiers. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)**
Xendie Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:27:00 - [69] Originally by: Nifel Originally by: Plim Originally by: Nifel Originally by: welsh wizard On our own we struggle because our love for close range combat isn't shared by BoB. We try to fight outnumbered but sometimes it goes wrong as was evident in that last slaughter. BoB as an entity doesn't mind close range combat. We do however hate the idea of ECM on every BS since we as an entity view it as *. The best defense against lots of ECM on the enemy BS is to come in ultra long range so guess what we do ^^. And that is relevant to us how? And the best defence against ECM is *** backup arrays moron. Disclaimer: I am posting like I would if I was as arrogant as a BoB member. It is relevant to CELES as that's what you do on nearly every BS? At least when I was up there. 0utbreak did the same thing. And I disgress about backup arrays being the best defense against defense against ECM. For starters it's the wrong module as the medslot variant is much more effective and secondly it's much more effective to be outside the effective range of ECM put on a standard BS as you can have full firepower and near enough completely negate the effect of ECM compared to just lowering the chance of being jammed with backup arrays. And I also have to point out you fail in your arrogance as a BoB wannabe. Not near enough arrogance and your forum fu is weak as evidenced by resorting to the use of the word moron. It's much like a toddler throwing toys at soldiers. funny though that in the video you can hear ppl on the celes/outbreak side stating that they were being jammed. isnt your statement very much like shoving your own foot in your mouth hard? Quote:** Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Xendie funny though that in the video you can hear ppl on the celes/outbreak side stating that they were being jammed. isnt your statement very much like shoving your own foot in your mouth hard? Haven't seen the video in question. Are they being jammed by ships that aren't specifically geared towards jamming (Scorpion, Blackbird, Rook)? The fight I was in when RKK was up in Fountain Core had 1 Rook on our side iirc. As for shoving my own foot in my mouth hard you do it on a regular basis. Care to tell me how it feels so I can decide if that's what I just did? "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 04:49:00 - [71] @Welsh, yes we are finishing u guys off as long as how u say it " Very outnumbered" and you are only fighting us (BNC) and you keep logging off in dead end systems or dock most of the time when we bring up a fight and plzzzz dont even think about saying BLOB coz its only BNC there so if celes cant handle aginst one corp alone and will keep calling us blobbers that is just funny. @Plim , errr have u even fitted a backup array b4 ?? Best deffence aginst ECM? fit as much backup arrays as u want and u will still be jammed eventualy due to the fact that ECM is quite borked atm sicne having 80 sensor strengh on ur ship and u can still get jammed buy one multi spec on a mega for example just says it all so get ur facts straight b4 u post nonsense. @Xan , just LOL . "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:31:00 - [72] I was going to post something, but it's late and the guys above me said it better then I can. At least everyone now knows why we are enamies till end of EVE. Emm, and a kid calling others kids and morons. The irony. The truth will set you free
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:47:00 - [73] The top 5 MEGA pvp corps are: 1. Goonfleet 2. Goonwaffe 3. GoonPlatoon 4. Goonfleet 5. Goonfleet
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 07:06:00 - [74] Edited by: Darcuese on 21/09/2006 07:07:11 Originally by: Plim Originally by: welsh wizard ffs plim. What? They are being completely school yard. Thoralim practically asked a guy for a fight after his maths lesson. Who gives a crap, i'm not doing the vieled insult crap with these kids. Hail and kill. Kids Man, no matter if you walk through desert and meditate in cave. If you walk over 7 mountaines or even speak with God. Even if you role few joints and have enough beers....you wouldnt be ever/never any enteirtainmant, except talking crap -------------------------------------------- Space available for advertising atm
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:00:00 - [75] It's a shame this thread has turned into a celes vs bob smack fest I will correct a few bob pilots before I leave this thread though, without being lame and going through mail I can tell you we arent the only ones fitting jamming to bs, I remember seeign krystal with multi's on a apoc (maybe she is the only 1, but i`m not about to dig up mails to find out). Yes it is just BNC against us from BOB a 250 member corp vs a 110 man corp but please dont forgot you also have a refreshed xelas who have spent the last month rebuilding their alliance into one of decent size and organisation. Anyway I`ve tried to be fair with my points but i`m sure someone will find some fault with them somewhere lol so i`ll leave it at I look forward to more good fights Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:34:00 - [76] Originally by: Kaleeb Anyway I`ve tried to be fair with my points but i`m sure someone will find some fault with them somewhere you failed miserably to be fair. You didnt agree with BOB Originally by: KIATolon I just got owned
Imran The Scope	Posted - 2006.09.21 09:01:00 - [77] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 20/09/2006 13:40:57 Originally by: Raid Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Gunship 1. DICE (x-ATUK) 2. Shinra Rest is not important lol Dont you mean LOL Granted.. they emply the most PVP pilots... but best?? 5v5, 10v10, 15v15 anytime? 1v1 cyber u vs me. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 09:11:00 - [78] Better lock it chaps.
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 09:36:00 - [79] Originally by: Kaleeb I will correct a few bob pilots before I leave this thread though, without being lame and going through mail I can tell you we arent the only ones fitting jamming to bs, I remember seeign krystal with multi's on a apoc (maybe she is the only 1, but i`m not about to dig up mails to find out). There's no ban on fitting ECM in BoB. It is however frowned upon much like fitting stabs are when it comes to non-ECM specific ships. Sadly the only way to counter ECM is your own ECM, go outside the range of ECM or outnumber your ECM-fitted enemy stupidly. Given that, ECM on BS other than the Scorpion is in some situations the only way to go. I know many pilots in RKK at least will be very happy the day CCP fixes the currently broken ECM. It's far too strong in its current state. It might be that there's a shift in how BoB as an entity views this in progress. It's a bitter taste in your mouth when you lose only because the enemy fitted ECM on every BS they had and half your gang ends up being totally and utterly useless as they can't do anything. And fights are nice >_>. Enough ramblings... o_O "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:13:00 - [80] You know, it's funny how one little remark about BoB gets them all worked up and starts a whole 3 page flame/chest beating thread. I mean, why the dire need to prove yourself on eve-O? feeling insecure ingame? :p -Your most beloved, Orcy.
Regma Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:19:00 - [81] Originally by: Orc A You know, it's funny how one little remark about BoB gets them all worked up and starts a whole 3 page flame/chest beating thread. I mean, why the dire need to prove yourself on eve-O? feeling insecure ingame? :p -Your most beloved, Orcy. Wow this thread is nearly complete, we just need a closing word from ChefAce.
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:39:00 - [82] Originally by: Regma Originally by: Orc A You know, it's funny how one little remark about BoB gets them all worked up and starts a whole 3 page flame/chest beating thread. I mean, why the dire need to prove yourself on eve-O? feeling insecure ingame? :p -Your most beloved, Orcy. Wow this thread is nearly complete, we just need a closing word from ChefAce. And we need Aneu to come in and agree with Orc A's statement. ------------------ WOTANKN > WOTAN-KN + BIZARRE= SIR MOLLE
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:33:00 - [83] True Nifel I will be really happy when EW gets a nerf as I prefer close range slugs with only some select EW ships (scorp,rook). I made my post because several other posts made it sound like its only celes using EW on bs. Anyway I think the thread should be locked Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.

Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.21 23:28:00 - [84] Locked due to this being off-topic for this forum and the resultant spam and personal attacks in this and other threads. click \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|


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