Originally by: Testy Mctest

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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As usual the elite "Anti-missile we fly turret ships hit squad" have forgotten the most important one.

Missiles do less damage.

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Actually, I fly Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari, as well as Minmatar. I'm not anti anything. I'm pro balance.

Missiles very definitely do not do less damage, if you're talking about using the correct missiles for the correct targets.

Also, for people saying that missiles doing less damage against smaller targets is a drawback, because turrets can hit for full damage against smaller ships - you realise that's a completely flawed argument, Im sure. In practice (I realise a lot of people who frequent this forum don't actually understand this game at all, but bare with me), missiles are the superior weapon type because they hit consistently. They may hit for significantly reduced damage, but they're a large-sized weapon to begin with, so even their significantly reduced damage is plenty enough to lay the hurt on cruisers and frigates.

It amazes me how people can still argue that missiles are not superior to turrets. Sure they have drawbacks - the only real one being flight time - but that's nothing compared to the advantage they gain.

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Originally by: inSpirAcy

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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This is the typical response thats always given when someone points out imbalance in the game. Which is why these discussions are pointless. One can only hope that Tuxford at least reads the threads and that its not up for a majority vote if it gets changed or not.

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It's actually a cop-out response, which people use when the factors involved in a discussion exceed their capacity to analyse it. Words like "innumerable" try to cloud the situations that people encounter in-game, rather than try to qualify or quantify them, in an attempt to throw off further discussion or challenges to a point.

For example, we mostly agree that missiles aren't much use in fleet combat because it tends to take place at extreme ranges. However no attempt is made to quantify how much of PvP is fleet-based (it varies between players for one) and thus how badly at a disadvantage missiles are in general. I've never fought in a fleet in my life and I never plan to. Missiles offer immense advantages for me because all of my fights take place within disrupt range, where flight time is negligible and tracking dominates fights.

One can't hope to please everyone, but it's an injustice to say that balancing is futile as a result. There clearly are a lot of players skilled in both missiles and turrets who could tell you, on the whole, which system offers more advantage to them. From that, the finer aspects of the game can be balanced indirectly.

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Originally by: Testy Mctest

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Either way I hope all of these 'anti-Caldari' posts

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See - that's the problem with you people. You see everything in the nerf/buff spectrum. It's not about being anti one race or pro another. It's about balance.

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