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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 11:22:39 -
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Yeah.... Friendly fire should always be a thing. We're playing Eve, not WoW.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 12:56:43 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Yeah.... Friendly fire should always be a thing. We're playing Eve, not WoW. You can still fire on friendlies in null, low, whs and in hisec corps that allow it. If you want to do that, don't join hisec corps that don't allow it. Simple as that.
Not a thing. Simple as that.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 14:57:35 -
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Lol. The counter to awoxing is to impose artificial restraints on the game is it? ha ha. Not kill the awoxer back?
wow....
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 15:05:15 -
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Sladislov wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Lol. The counter to awoxing is to impose artificial restraints on the game is it? ha ha. Not kill the awoxer back?
wow.... As if any of these highsec pubs have ever pvp'd before
Good time to learn.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 16:19:41 -
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afkalt wrote:Yes, let me try and kill someone behind a concord protected invincible logi wall which would take two dozen T3s to break.
More to the point, there is no API trail on a a fresh toon - are they just banned from joining corps now*? Those letting in people with "killboards a mile long" will certainly fall for other tactics so I honestly see no problem here.
*speaking of, I understood alt recycling was only bannable to avoid a SS issue - NOT to hide the toon history. I may be wrong, I've never done it.
Oh My, I do believe we have a winner.
FINALLY, one of you have actually listed problems:
neutral RR IS a problem. Using Duel's to bait, IS a problem. THOSE are things that need to be fixed, especially when this crap goes on in or next too Noob systems. THIS stuff is a problem. Awoxing and ganking are NOT.
No, no API trail on a fresh character is NOT a problem. Toon cycling IS a problem. Again, THIS is something that needs fixed, not the risk of letting new people into your corp.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 16:27:37 -
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Soldarius wrote:I have no problem with duel baiting. You get a nice pop-up that asks "Do you want to do this?" click yes or no. I was in a DST in the Amarr gate once and got asked by some random. Clearly, no.
If you actually want to tank-test or what have you, 1v1s are available through this method.
Neut RR logi without consequences is ******** imo. They should get some sort of a flag so that the enemy of the person being repped can shoot them. Suspect flag sounds about right. Consequences need to be had.
Duel bait in Hek, Rens, Jita, Amarr, etc all you want. A least there peeps tend to have a couple days behind them and are old enough to start learning the hard way. It's despicable to do so in Noob systems. I've sat there and watched it be done on my high sec alts. I think that is the only time I've reported anyone.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 16:39:03 -
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Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:Sladislov wrote:Besides, no real awoxer goes around looking for new players to blow them up. They're only in it for the shiny kills. There's a whole article that showcased people who did it specifically to kill new players and not only shiny kills. http://www.themittani.com/features/eve-scams-schemes-10-hour-hero "There are people in this game who are not playing for monetary gain. TheyGÇÖre not playing for killmails. TheyGÇÖre here to blow you up because (a) itGÇÖs funny and (b) **** you."
ha. that article is not about people who do it specifically to kill new players. That article is about killing players for fun and/or profit. That just happens to be easier on newer players, as a general rule, but certainly not always.
EDIT: more specifically suicide ganking, like the guy above me said.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.16 21:51:19 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:If you accept a character with no employment history beyond their initial NPC corp and nothing suspicious on their API, do you deserve to be awoxed?
If you do even basic observation, it's usually not too hard to spot the real noobs from the pretenders.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.17 02:10:22 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:
It's 'distressing' because from a game developer standpoint, their players (and particularly new players) get confused. Everywhere new players are encouraged to join player corporations. But then when they join a noob friendly corp they are targeted by much older players who seem to find joy in ruining the new player's day for no particular reason other than 'tears'.
Problem is they said this was being made optional by the corp meaning it doesn't prevent this from happening. all it does is make it so there is no reason not to just hit accept on every application to your corp
Uhhh... what?
Come again?
I've done my fair share of ganking, and would gladly do so again if the time and desire coincided at the same point. There is no fun in killing noobs. Ganking, Awoxing, etc is much, much more fun when we can get the bitter vet tears to go along with it.
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Kenrailae
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Posted - 2015.01.17 02:21:40 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:
It's 'distressing' because from a game developer standpoint, their players (and particularly new players) get confused. Everywhere new players are encouraged to join player corporations. But then when they join a noob friendly corp they are targeted by much older players who seem to find joy in ruining the new player's day for no particular reason other than 'tears'.
Problem is they said this was being made optional by the corp meaning it doesn't prevent this from happening. all it does is make it so there is no reason not to just hit accept on every application to your corp Uhhh... what? Come again? Corps will still be able to get new members in and gank them free of concord so this does not protect new players. it only protects corps from needing to trust anyone
Wow... I just felt brain cells die.....
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