EVE Search - Deimos?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Deimos?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Ruri Tashimori	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:03:00 - [1] I've been thinking about getting into one of these but i haven't found much material about them. It looks like a well really rounded close range combat vessel, maybe not on par w/ the vagabond but close. Like i said i haven't seen many posts about them or seen them in combat to much so any feedback on performance and setups would be appreciated.
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:11:00 - [2] The idea of the deimos is great - get up into someones face and blow the absolute crap out of them. It's let down by implementation though. As soon as you jump in the thing you realise it's almost impossible to fit any sort of impressive setup. You're either fitting an 800 plate and Electron II's or Ion II's and no plate + resist mods. Either way, its pretty much a glorified thorax with assault resists and a little more HP, traded for a LOWER top speed and worse agility. It's basically a close range ship that moves around really poorly and its damage output doesnt make up for that. Even though I say these things about the deimos, I still have 2 - why? Firstly, they are just pure style in a ***** shaped ship. When used correctly they really are impressive and while they might not be able to go straight up against a cerb, ishtar or vaga, they're nonetheless impressive for straight out damage dealing. Secondly, I have faith that soon enough they'll be given a grid and agility / speed boost and will be able to properly play with the big boys. They still might not be able to go up against cerbs and such, because they can't pull off the uber tanks like the cerb, but they're nonetheless impressive and deffo not to be laughed at when used to add damage to a roaming gang. Sure get an ishtar when you want to solo (you can solo in a deimos but you gotta be careful), but in a gang go for the deimos and you'll be blasting suckers left and right Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Xtreem Gallente Anti Pirate Confederate	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:22:00 - [3] totally agree with the above. The ship is a looker, she shines and if u spend ALOT of money pn the ship and fittings and have HIGH skills the ship can do some excellent damage, but it needs to be setup well, and setup correctly or it will die on its feet to most things. high skills with some isks = win lower end skills or a little short on isk - stick to the rax or maybe a vigilant i love my rax hulls i have the rax, vigilant and daimos , over all isk vs rewards i prefer the rax!!
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:46:00 - [4] Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. It's close combat ship, does big damage once it gets in range, but it's too heavy cap dependant and too heavy and slow to be of much use. And it has way too little pg and can't fit railguns(due to crap pg) which is saving grace of 90% gallente boats. --------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:56:00 - [5] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. No it¦s actually not. Sorry, just felt like nitpicking. -
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:57:00 - [6] heh... owned !
Lucus Ranger Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:43:00 - [7] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. So true...
El Yatta Caldari Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:53:00 - [8] Edited by: El Yatta on 21/09/2006 12:54:18 Originally by: Karl Shade Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. No it¦s actually not. Sorry, just felt like nitpicking. .... Way to not get it! I hope you feel ashamed now. Anyhow, back to the Deimos - a seriously flawed vessel. Having flown one, as well as Cerbs, Eagles and Ishtars, for a long time, its safe to say that the Deimos is sincerely useless today. Its popularity was because of the damage potential, which during Exodus, shortly after HACs were released, was considered extreme. Very few people had large t2 guns, so for a cruiser-sized package to easily output 500dps (a reasonable figure for a damage-heavy deimos fit, but not "full gank" - back when you could use 6 MFS II, which nobody ever fitted.) was insane. It soon became the most expensive HAC because of this. Since then, its popularity has fallen, because of people realising how awesome the Ishtar is, and the release of new ships and more people training other races HACs and large bs guns t2. Only more and more people being able to fly HACs at all has kept its price rising with the other popular hacs. All of the flaws with the deimos, its PATHETIC grid, complete inability to survive the approach to blaster range, inability to fit neutrons due to cpu anyway(before the cpu reduction), incredible slowness, EW vulnerability, poor agility, high sig, dire cap even with its (non-)bonus, are exacerbated by the modern eve climate of fitting plates to all cruisers (the Deimos cannot do this with any gun but electrons, which are poor), the excess of ECM and nos use, and the popularity of fast ships such as Vagabonds. The deimos's only strong point, DAMAGE, is however, no longer enough to make up for this stuff. Why? Because the REALISTIC dps the Deimos can put out is just not enough. Today Astarte's are very popular, and with the improvements to fitting and tracking, blasterthrons live again. Quite simply, the deimos is no longer a dps monster, it is merely 'good' at putting the hurt on people, and thats not enough for flying a paper plane like it. The two things that could have helped - namely Null and Void M, came out at the same time as Command ships and improvements to the cerb, which really put the nail in the Deimos's coffin. Diemos indeed. ---\|\|---
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:04:00 - [9] deimos deserves to be fixed along with amarr, both have heavy problems and both are the only races i fly =P (besides caldari but i refuse to fly it any longer cuz i'll get flamed if i get in a raven)
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:31:00 - [10] Originally by: El Yatta Edited by: El Yatta on 21/09/2006 12:54:18 Originally by: Karl Shade Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. No it¦s actually not. Sorry, just felt like nitpicking. .... Way to not get it! I hope you feel ashamed now. Yeah I got it. Die-mos. Thus the nitpick part. Meh, remind me not to post when in a bad mood. -
Galen Silas Gallente Digital assassins	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:35:00 - [11] Good setup for the deimos: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II's 1x Small Knave Energy Drain 1x Overcharged Microwarpdrive/ 10mn class 1x 20Km Fleeting Warp Scrambler 1x Medium Electrochemical Cap booster/w 800's 3x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's 1x Explosive hardener II 1x Cpu enhaner or Reactor control unit whatever your lacking. 1x Medium Armor Repair II This is a good setup with Null ammo on the electrons i get over 3.5 optimal and for my falloff i get 3,750m falloff and thats without the falloff bonus and i dont even have trajectory analysis trained yet,lol. But if you wantto fit Dual reppers you would have to srop the MWD and fit a y-t8 afterburner. but remember to use Null ammo, otherwise its not very effective tbh, keeps your range out there a bit. on my rax those are the stats i get, forgot to mention i get a 4.2 damage mod and a 2.2sec ROF, good DPS especially on a deimos.
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:52:00 - [12] Originally by: Galen Silas Good setup for the deimos: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II's 1x Small Knave Energy Drain 1x Overcharged Microwarpdrive/ 10mn class 1x 20Km Fleeting Warp Scrambler 1x Medium Electrochemical Cap booster/w 800's 3x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's 1x Explosive hardener II 1x Cpu enhaner or Reactor control unit whatever your lacking. 1x Medium Armor Repair II This is a good setup with Null ammo on the electrons i get over 3.5 optimal and for my falloff i get 3,750m falloff and thats without the falloff bonus and i dont even have trajectory analysis trained yet,lol. But if you wantto fit Dual reppers you would have to srop the MWD and fit a y-t8 afterburner. but remember to use Null ammo, otherwise its not very effective tbh, keeps your range out there a bit. on my rax those are the stats i get, forgot to mention i get a 4.2 damage mod and a 2.2sec ROF, good DPS especially on a deimos. 286 DPS and a semi-decent tank, personally I'd take the brutix over this any day and shine in both with a fifth of the price tag. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Galen Silas Good setup for the deimos: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II's 1x Small Knave Energy Drain 1x Overcharged Microwarpdrive/ 10mn class 1x 20Km Fleeting Warp Scrambler 1x Medium Electrochemical Cap booster/w 800's 3x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's 1x Explosive hardener II 1x Cpu enhaner or Reactor control unit whatever your lacking. 1x Medium Armor Repair II This is a good setup with Null ammo on the electrons i get over 3.5 optimal and for my falloff i get 3,750m falloff and thats without the falloff bonus and i dont even have trajectory analysis trained yet,lol. But if you wantto fit Dual reppers you would have to srop the MWD and fit a y-t8 afterburner. but remember to use Null ammo, otherwise its not very effective tbh, keeps your range out there a bit. on my rax those are the stats i get, forgot to mention i get a 4.2 damage mod and a 2.2sec ROF, good DPS especially on a deimos. to improve your terrible setup change one EANM for a DCU
El Yatta Caldari Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:06:00 - [14] Edited by: El Yatta on 21/09/2006 14:11:40 Originally by: Galen Silas Good setup for the deimos: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II's 1x Small Knave Energy Drain 1x Overcharged Microwarpdrive/ 10mn class 1x 20Km Fleeting Warp Scrambler 1x Medium Electrochemical Cap booster/w 800's 3x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's 1x Explosive hardener II 1x Cpu enhaner or Reactor control unit whatever your lacking. 1x Medium Armor Repair II This is a good setup with Null ammo on the electrons i get over 3.5 optimal and for my falloff i get 3,750m falloff and thats without the falloff bonus and i dont even have trajectory analysis trained yet,lol. But if you wantto fit Dual reppers you would have to srop the MWD and fit a y-t8 afterburner. but remember to use Null ammo, otherwise its not very effective tbh, keeps your range out there a bit. on my rax those are the stats i get, forgot to mention i get a 4.2 damage mod and a 2.2sec ROF, good DPS especially on a deimos. That is a very bad fit which is even /worse/ at what was once the Deimos's strong point- damage. No damage mods, no ions, no webber, this thing is going to tickle, not punch. Your falloff is minimal - if you want to exploit null ammo you HAVE to fit ions at the minimum. You also are using electrons, but no med nos or plate, so how on EARTH do you have to fit an RCU or a Coproc - you should still have LOTS of grid to spare without a fitting mod. You must have terrible skills - especially to even consider dropping to an AFTERBURNER - definite no-no on this ship. My current fit (not exact, my Deimos is 60 jumps away and is staying there because of it being to expensive for its minimal usefulness) is something like: 5x Ion II Yt8 MWD, fleeting progressive, fleeting web MAR II, Energised reactive membrane II, EANM II, good named damage control, 2x Mag field stabs. I havent bothered to do any faction pimping, because I no longer fly it much, but a faction webifyer and MAR would start to make it useful. Carry Vespa EC-600 drones and both null and void M. Its cap weak, but then all Deimos fits are - at least the hardeners are passive. ---\|\|---
Tor Anasa	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:28:00 - [15] Originally by: Deathbarrage deimos deserves to be fixed along with amarr, both have heavy problems and both are the only races i fly =P (besides caldari but i refuse to fly it any longer cuz i'll get flamed if i get in a raven) Fit a Heat Dissapation Amplifier 1 and go fly that raven :P On topic, perhaps the powergrid shortage was a concious attempt at preventing a railboat? (I'm not sure of course and i have never flown a thorax so i will bow to the oppinions of those who have) From the couple of posts i'v read then yes this ship desperately and obviously needs fixing, which means that ccp will shove it in the Urgent Business to be Ignored folder and never look at it again. Tor
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Tor Anasa On topic, perhaps the powergrid shortage was a concious attempt at preventing a railboat? (I'm not sure of course and i have never flown a thorax so i will bow to the oppinions of those who have) The deimos gets a +10% falloff range per level bonus so it's pretty much made for blasters cos falloff on rails is arse. Gotta say tho, 250mm II's w/ spike and 3 MFS II + TE II + TC II etc makes for a really nice setup... can 2-volley frigs at 100km Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Lucus Ranger Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:44:00 - [17] Ok a fit: 7x Electron II 10mn MWD, Web, Scram 2x Mag Stab II, Med Armour Rep II, DCU, 800mm Plate or EANM II, EANM II 5x Valk II
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.21 15:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Ok a fit: 7x Electron II 10mn MWD, Web, Scram 2x Mag Stab II, Med Armour Rep II, DCU, 800mm Plate or EANM II, EANM II 5x Valk II on a deimos? ... "What happens in Deklien stays in Deklien".
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.21 15:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Ok a fit: 7x Electron II 10mn MWD, Web, Scram 2x Mag Stab II, Med Armour Rep II, DCU, 800mm Plate or EANM II, EANM II 5x Valk II Looks like an astarte setup with an empty med slot Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Lucus Ranger Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.21 17:52:00 - [20] whee typo I meant 5 Electron II
Angus Torg	Posted - 2006.09.22 06:51:00 - [21] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 21/09/2006 11:45:47 It's actually called Diemos. No it's not spelling mistake. It's close combat ship, does big damage once it gets in range, but it's too heavy cap dependant and too heavy and slow to be of much use. And it has way too little pg and can't fit railguns(due to crap pg) which is saving grace of 90% gallente boats. Well, I saw that Farjung really loves to put 250's on his Deimos. And to be honest, I like it also. That's really nice in small gang operations.
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2006.09.22 07:10:00 - [22] Raimos? spits on the floor with digust
Asmodeos	Posted - 2006.09.22 07:22:00 - [23] I still use a deimos some times and when i do this setup seems to work for me: High slots - Ion blaster II - Ion blaster II - Ion blaster II - Ion blaster II - Ion blaster II - Small nosferatu II Medium slots - "named" capacitor recharger - "named" 10Mn microwarpdrive - Warp scrambler/disruptor Low slots - "named" nano membrame - "named" nano membrame - "named" power capacitor relay - "named" explosive hardener - Magnetic field stabilisor II - Medium armour repper II (or better/named) Drones 5x webber drones This fits only with good skills i'd like to add, and you need lots of money for all the named items, and to add some named ammo, but there wont be many that you cant tackle when you do. but still there are cheaper and better ships available atm.
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:23:00 - [24] 5 webber drones? Anyway deimos is only good for npc'ing serpentis and guristas. If you want to pvp, sell it for an ishtar.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:28:00 - [25] plz dont post noob deimos setups owned !
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:40:00 - [26] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 22/09/2006 08:40:03 wtf? whoa stragest double post ever owned !
Galen Silas Gallente Digital assassins	Posted - 2006.09.22 15:04:00 - [27] My current fit (not exact, my Deimos is 60 jumps away and is staying there because of it being to expensive for its minimal usefulness) is something like: 5x Ion II Yt8 MWD, fleeting progressive, fleeting web MAR II, Energised reactive membrane II, EANM II, good named damage control, 2x Mag field stabs. If you can fit all that youmust have advanced weapon upgrades at 10, 5 ions dont take much but they take enough to keep you form fitting 5 tech2, 1 tech2 MAR and a MWD, if i could ever possibly fit thats setup i would be using Ions.
Raven	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:05:00 - [28] Originally by: ElCoCo 5 webber drones? Anyway deimos is only good for npc'ing serpentis and guristas. If you want to pvp, sell it for an ishtar. I've never had any problems npc'ing sansha as well. Simply put Deimos is one of the best rat hunting ships out there. It utterly sucks as a pvp boat though for the reasons already mentioned. A thorax is a much better option in pvp in my opinion, simply because you won't lose 200 mills when you die as you do when you lose a deimos.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:43:00 - [29] 5x Miner II 2x invuln II 1x large SB 5x local cargo expander Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia 5x Miner II 2x invuln II 1x large SB 5x local cargo expander If you think that setup is awesome, try the 6 cargo expander setup instead of leaving 1 lowslot empty _________________________________________________

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.