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Wild Rho Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:21:00 - [31] I suspect given what we've seen with the T2 bpos such as hacs and cap charger 2's that they want to wait until invention is ingame and settled (assuming it will have some bugs/need balancing) before introducing another high demand t2 item. WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
Peter Stuyvesant Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:25:00 - [32] Originally by: Mal Hondo i thougth the maximum was six? 1 + 5 from the skill? Multiple characters.
Korovyov Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:29:00 - [33] Originally by: Mal Hondo i thougth the maximum was six? 1 + 5 from the skill? It's an alt eat alt world 'round here. ***
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:43:00 - [34] The simple answer why T2 Cargo Expanders aren't in the game is... They violate the 27.5k rule. Which is no cargo larger than 27,500 m3 can be jettisoned intospace That figure is the current max cargo capacity of an iteron mark v with 5 local hull expanders and gallente industrial skill 5. Its also the same size as a jetcan. In short T2 Expanders aren't in game because it would create the freighter problem on other ship and could potentially screw up the database.
Pretty Polly	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:48:00 - [35] Originally by: ToxicFire The simple answer why T2 Cargo Expanders aren't in the game is... They violate the 27.5k rule. Which is no cargo larger than 27,500 m3 can be jettisoned intospace That figure is the current max cargo capacity of an iteron mark v with 5 local hull expanders and gallente industrial skill 5. Its also the same size as a jetcan. In short T2 Expanders aren't in game because it would create the freighter problem on other ship and could potentially screw up the database. The amarr dreadnought can hold more than 30k with expanders. There goes that theory.
Max Hardcase Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:55:00 - [36] Originally by: ToxicFire The simple answer why T2 Cargo Expanders aren't in the game is... They violate the 27.5k rule. Which is no cargo larger than 27,500 m3 can be jettisoned intospace That figure is the current max cargo capacity of an iteron mark v with 5 local hull expanders and gallente industrial skill 5. Its also the same size as a jetcan. In short T2 Expanders aren't in game because it would create the freighter problem on other ship and could potentially screw up the database. Why would it ? If you kill an array that has more than 27.5k m3 of stuff it just creates multiple cans.
Fivor BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Mal Hondo i thougth the maximum was six? 1 + 5 from the skill? One use for alts. I have 15 Research agents -- BIG Sales BIG Lottery Eve Search
Trarah	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:18:00 - [38] Edited by: Trarah on 21/09/2006 13:22:04 forget the new hold size, if they dont change the stats, my transport ship is going to have a negative speed Impel: base speed 80m/s with 7low slots. TII expanders -15m/s each new speed = 80 - (15*7) = -35 m/s
Infinity Ziona Privateers	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:20:00 - [39] Originally by: Max Hardcase Originally by: ToxicFire The simple answer why T2 Cargo Expanders aren't in the game is... They violate the 27.5k rule. Which is no cargo larger than 27,500 m3 can be jettisoned intospace That figure is the current max cargo capacity of an iteron mark v with 5 local hull expanders and gallente industrial skill 5. Its also the same size as a jetcan. In short T2 Expanders aren't in game because it would create the freighter problem on other ship and could potentially screw up the database. Why would it ? If you kill an array that has more than 27.5k m3 of stuff it just creates multiple cans. T2 cargo expanders dont have to be bigger to be better. Are Alliances Pushing You Around?
Iyanah Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 21/09/2006 09:12:22 Edit: and for the record, I have TEN level 4 reserach agents. someone needs to get out more :P but i like your thinking with the rest of your post. well, time for me to take my own advice and get out! tally ho! ========================================== Iy
Toqua Caldari Total Warehouse Logistics	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:34:00 - [41] Originally by: Trarah Edited by: Trarah on 21/09/2006 13:22:04 forget the new hold size, if they dont change the stats, my transport ship is going to have a negative speed Impel: base speed 80m/s with 7low slots. TII expanders -15m/s each new speed = 80 - (15*7) = -35 m/s for 7 T2 Cargo Expanders I WOULD fly back first :-)) It's only a thing of placing the drone... T.
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Trarah Edited by: Trarah on 21/09/2006 13:22:04 forget the new hold size, if they dont change the stats, my transport ship is going to have a negative speed Impel: base speed 80m/s with 7low slots. TII expanders -15m/s each new speed = 80 - (15*7) = -35 m/s Just go in reverse...
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2006.09.21 15:03:00 - [43] Originally by: ToxicFire The simple answer why T2 Cargo Expanders aren't in the game is... They violate the 27.5k rule. Which is no cargo larger than 27,500 m3 can be jettisoned intospace That figure is the current max cargo capacity of an iteron mark v with 5 local hull expanders and gallente industrial skill 5. Its also the same size as a jetcan. In short T2 Expanders aren't in game because it would create the freighter problem on other ship and could potentially screw up the database. /me checks the Cargo Hold of "The Schwartz Returneth"..... 25,211 m3 cargo space.... I'm sorry, but would love to see your iteron mk V do better than that Toxic. To the OP, As stated plenty of times before, They simply arn't in game yet. This could be because they would crash the Expander market (I mean look at it, a Local Hull Expanded (27%) sells for 30 million (if you can get it cheap), If you seed a 30% expander, and it gets mass produced, it'll sell for around 1-2 million, causing all named expanders to be well, Nothing.) I think they are trying to avoid the same situation that arose with the Miner IIs, If you compare the Price of a Miner II to that of an ExCel Drilling laser, You'll see about 2 to 3 times price difference. Also these things would make it a lot easier to move around "BIG" items, such as Ship Assembly arrays. His Planetship, CEO, IM
Dreck Morrison Amarr No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.09.21 15:21:00 - [44] CCP just has to get it right on the build components costs. Local hull cargo expanders cost ~30M isk right now. If the component build costs for these tech 2 cargo expanders was say 25M isk (say then need to be made out of pure morphite!) then the profit that could be made would not be insane. What I dont want to see is that these cost 100K to build and are sold for 40M isk a unit. That is the kind of crap like on the Hulk BPOs that drives people insane. Getting a Tech 2 bpo that means you never have to lift a finger again in the game to make isk is a weak game mechanic. Dreck
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.22 05:45:00 - [45] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 21/09/2006 09:12:22 My suggestion on this Item. Don't EVER seed a BPO. Have NPCs sell the T2 Cargo Expander for a high price, using it as an Isk sink for the game. I'd suggest NPCs sell them for at least 20mil each. Also, do something similar for items such as T2 Nanofibers, T2 Damage controls, etc. Edit: and for the record, I have TEN level 4 reserach agents. I fully support this. It would be a great ISK sink. Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.22 07:08:00 - [46] Originally by: Chribba Originally by: PwrPuffGirl Well if you really must know i have been doing NOTHING but mining my wee little behind off and have amased a nice sum of ISK's Try mining for like 14 hours a day for 2 weeks and see how much you make. Only mine whats being asked for and sell at a higher rate, i do 5 to 10% above market price. i make around 700.000.00 isk with 100.000.00 units of veldspar PPG ... wasn't aware that Veld sold for 7pu these days... Maybe I should sell my stacks of veld... Yeah I don't quite get that. I mean hell, I see people sell veld and trit for less than that in 0.0. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
Delta2003	Posted - 2006.09.22 08:10:00 - [47] i want he bpo so badly i made me sig around it :P

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