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Fley Allstar Amarr DSTA Technologies Unlimited	Posted - 2006.09.21 21:48:00 - [1] Hi folks, i have heard so much about the famed blaster thorax, and was wondering if there are any equivalent PvP ship setup of that prowess in the Amarr arsenal. Being a tech1 cruiser the amount of dmg output of a blaster thorax seems to be able to outshine many ships. Any Amarr tech1 cruiser ship setup that is able to compete with the blastorax in the PvP arena? :) Cheers, Fley
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.21 21:53:00 - [2] a maller, with good fitting can tank like a big one. or the omen, which can do some nice damage. Sig removed, please keep all signature graphics EVE related - Xorus From Dusk till Dawn
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.21 21:56:00 - [3] Originally by: Nafri a maller, with good fitting can tank like a big one. or the omen, which can do some nice damage. Eh, the Omen has about half the damage of a full gank-rax and the tank isn't really that significant in 95% of PVP fights, too big of a trade-off for damage. The Amarr [Tech I] Cruisers are probably the worst within the game. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.21 21:58:00 - [4] Set up right, a Maller can probably outtank a Thorax but I doubt it can control range well enough to win a 1v1. The 'rax will just run. I doubt the Arbitrator could do it either, unless you can suck him dry really quickly.
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.21 22:06:00 - [5] Originally by: inSpirAcy Set up right, a Maller can probably outtank a Thorax but I doubt it can control range well enough to win a 1v1. The 'rax will just run. I doubt the Arbitrator could do it either, unless you can suck him dry really quickly. I give a autocannon maller a good chance. Have seen people doing extremly interesting stuff in it. And the op asked for amarr ships which can compete in PvP, a omen is not as bad as many think. It does about 20% less damage than a zealot. From Dusk till Dawn
Frools No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.21 22:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Nafri And the op asked for amarr ships which can compete in PvP, a omen is not as bad as many think. It does about 20% less damage than a zealot. nothing wrong with the omen's bonuses or the concept behind it, it just lacks the grid to pull it off properly
Khonsu Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.21 22:22:00 - [7] A totally ganked up Omen does very nice damage a lot cheaper than a Zealot, but of course without any tank at all. One of my Omens currently have: 4x Heavy Pulse Laser II w/conflag 1x Rocket Launcher II 1x Named MWD, 1x named web, 1x named 20k scrambler 3x Heat sink II, 1x RCU II, 1x co-pro 3x light drones Spanks out the damage! Get into your optimal ASAP with the MWD, then open up. You could go down to focused pulses and slap on a plate++ instead. Lots of pew pew for your buck in this ship. This line is a signature, not part of the message.
Cecil Montague Minmatar KarWal Corporation Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.21 23:39:00 - [8] Put simply my Rax with T1 fittings can beat my omen with T2 and my skills in amarr ships are better than my Gal ones. "There is no such thing as an effective segment of totality." - Bruce Lee Karwal Security Director and corp Jester.
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.22 00:07:00 - [9] An autocannon maller is your best bet, trading the Thorax's damage for a godly tank (for a T1 cruiser).
xlop Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.22 00:15:00 - [10] crapomen its basicly ur thorax, with half teh DPS, no drones, less sensor strength, crap dmg type [most crusiers plate up, not so cool if ur doing mostly EM dmg] while also having a lesser tank! why do u think there is a 80page long fix amarr thred. btw who started the amarr have probs rants/balance/nerf
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.09.22 00:25:00 - [11] Ironic really, that the highest-end Amarr T1 frigate (Punisher) and cruiser (Maller), work best when fitted with autocannons. All DPS decoupled from cap, all their cap focused into a supertank, and with awesome ship-adjusted base resists to build on. Even more ironic that I abandoned my Castor-era projectile Punisher, my second ever frig, as a "noob setup", little realising that one day a subtle variation would end up becoming the last word in solo T1 frig pwnage. Maller is right up there with the Thorax and Rupture, provided you use autocannons. Frankly the Vexor makes it into the list as well, albeit a far more skill-intensive ship to use at the same level. Now Caldari... hard to imagine what comparison can be made there. They will all ECM to tilt the DPS balance in their favour. But bear in mind, a friend in a Maller took on a Blackbird 1v1 tonight, and only had to wait for one missed jam cycle before instasucking it into oblivion. And the Omen's DPS became obsolete when passive tanking skills got added to plate oversizing.
Frools No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.22 00:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Khonsu A totally ganked up Omen does very nice damage a lot cheaper than a Zealot, but of course without any tank at all. One of my Omens currently have: 4x Heavy Pulse Laser II w/conflag 1x Rocket Launcher II 1x Named MWD, 1x named web, 1x named 20k scrambler 3x Heat sink II, 1x RCU II, 1x co-pro 3x light drones Spanks out the damage! Get into your optimal ASAP with the MWD, then open up. You could go down to focused pulses and slap on a plate++ instead. Lots of pew pew for your buck in this ship. personally i go with: 4x heavy pulse II (conflag, scorch and MF) mwd/web/20k 1x rcu 2x hs2 2x 400mm RT gives you a little bit of survivability (ie hopefully enough time to gtfo ) and my missile skills suck anyway gang only tho tbh, omen is a horrible solo ship
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2006.09.22 01:02:00 - [13] Quote: Amarr equivalent of the Blastorax? This topic is flawed, there is no Amarr equivalent to a Thorax. Blasters out DPS lasers at close range, its as simple as that. An amarr cruiser can out tank a thorax, but out damaging a gank thorax is not feasable. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.09.22 01:32:00 - [14] I think rather than seeking a direct DPS equivalent, Fley Allstar was asking about functionality, or rather, ability to defeat the same targets with comparable efficiency. There are a number of cruisers other than the Thorax which will kill the same stuff just as well - Vexor, Maller, Rupture - but each will do so in a different way, using different sets of strengths. There is more than one way to ***** a nut - the vice will achieve the same goal as the sledgehammer.
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2006.09.22 01:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Cmdr Sy There is more than one way to ***** a nut - the vice will achieve the same goal as the sledgehammer. And the Thorax is the stick of dynamite. Amarr are the bigass armor plates. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.

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