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Olivin
Gallente
Aquarium
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:10:00 -
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Is it me, or it's not cool that CCP can't figure out how to implement user (session) authentication correctly when you don't need to click 2-3 times to access your character info? Same goes for forums.. page reloading and lopping is really annoying.
It took me 7 clicks and 4 minutes to post this message and it's not funny.
Olivin
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WTB: Any character with high standings torwards pirate factions |
Feng Schui
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:44:00 -
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agreed :\
thier use of ASP astounds (sp?) me to no end :\
With martial valor, if one becomes like a revengeful ghost and shows great determination, though his head is cut off, he should not die. |
Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:46:00 -
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Every single time I log in on a new computer (one that doesn't have the cookie) it gets into an infinite loop and refreshes as fast as it can, probably causing massive server load also.
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
--[23] Member--
 Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:47:00 -
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There's an issue with the eve.is server aswell.
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Elgar1
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:52:00 -
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There is definately something wrong with one of the servers on the custer which hosts 'www.eve-online.com'. Often I cant even access that main domain, however the sub domain of 'myeve' is a lot more responsive. It's been that way for over a year that I can remember.
I'm UK too and I believe the servers are hosted in London?
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar
Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I have worked on many ASP sites and they don't suck if they are programmed correctly.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I have worked on many ASP sites and they don't suck if they are programmed correctly.
But apparently whoever set up the ASP webservers can't program correctly 
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Olivin
Gallente
Aquarium
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Posted - 2006.09.22 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I couldn't agree more, although problem, IMHO, is not in ASP, but they way it's all put together (scripted).
User -> Account --> Web Setvice ( subscription, transfers, etc)
| --> Character 1 --> Web Service ( forum, pettions, etc)
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| --> Character 2 --> Web Service ( forum, pettions, etc)
It should be RBAC ( role based access) with passport-style authentication mechanism, where user holds credentials ( login, password) and characters are roles assigned to the user.
Olivin
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WTB: Any character with high standings torwards pirate factions |
Ysolde Xen
Minmatar
Liberal Trading Co
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 14:52:00 -
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Signed.
A lot.
(How about making it all IGB compatible too while we're at it? That part seems particularly mind-boggling - that the game website doesn't work with the game browser...)
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It's not a crap ship, you're just flying it all wrong. |
DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.22 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I have worked on many ASP sites and they don't suck if they are programmed correctly.
But apparently whoever set up the ASP webservers can't program correctly
KACHING!
you win!
you guessed it there!!!
been saying that for years!
☺
FRODO HAS FAILED;
BUSH HAS THE RING!!!
The HippoKing spots a new post |
Aziza
Gallente
Immobiliare
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:19:00 -
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/ Signed and please fix bug reporting so we know what's going on
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Thank you |
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:54:00 -
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This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad. I'm sending another mail to the team to let them know this still persists and directing them to look at this thread as an example.
I apologize for the inconveniences this issue has caused, I hope the knowledge that we are sharing the community's pain helps ease the disappointment.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad. I'm sending another mail to the team to let them know this still persists and directing them to look at this thread as an example.
I apologize for the inconveniences this issue has caused, I hope the knowledge that we are sharing the community's pain helps ease the disappointment.
Use Firefox. That way, you can simply click Back and whatever form you submitted information will again be filled with the information (such as a dev blog or post).
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:58:00 -
[14]
Originally by: kieron
This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad.
omg noob   
owned ! |
tiller
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.22 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: kieron
This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad.
omg noob
btw, I get the loop problem where forum page reloads as fast as possible forever...
Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage |
Katrena's Fury
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:48:00 -
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The dev who brought us new fonts has moved on to web development.
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Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:07:00 -
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use firefox kieron, it caches anything you type in the forms - just use the back button.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 22/09/2006 21:14:50
On another note, it would be fun if the
My character
section would work again sometime
Am I forced to have any regret?
I've become the lie, beautiful and free
In my righteous own mind
I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Olivin
Gallente
Aquarium
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad. I'm sending another mail to the team to let them know this still persists and directing them to look at this thread as an example.
Yeah, that about right. Seems like session identification algorithm is not implemented correctly. Ideally, it should take on account client IP, certificate ( if any), cookie and get/post, md5 hash variables (client IP + proxy +user agent). Lame user identification is a standard issue for most open source CMS.
Olivin
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WTB: Any character with high standings torwards pirate factions |
Aran Cole
Minmatar
Xerxes Enterprises
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: DukDodgerz
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I have worked on many ASP sites and they don't suck if they are programmed correctly.
But apparently whoever set up the ASP webservers can't program correctly
KACHING!
you win!
you guessed it there!!!
been saying that for years!
If they person who sets up their webservers is the same guy who programs their site, they've got worse problems than are mentioned here
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
use firefox kieron, it caches anything you type in the forms - just use the back button.
I would use Firefox, as many in CCP do. However, Firefox does not work with some of the back end pages and I haven't made the transition yet. Once there is a plug-in available, I'll give consideration to Firefox.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tachy on 22/09/2006 21:41:34
Originally by: kieron
This is an issue that isn't limited to just the EVE community, Oveur and I have both lost a number of blogs and news items because we typed them in the browser and not Notepad. I'm sending another mail to the team to let them know this still persists and directing them to look at this thread as an example.
I apologize for the inconveniences this issue has caused, I hope the knowledge that we are sharing the community's pain helps ease the disappointment.
Hey, it's only a massive problem since march, 10/11th(?), when the webservers lost the portrait rendering machine among other 'features' in a big crash. Hardly any releveant time.
There is an easy and inexpensive cure for the 'losing stuff' experience: Install FireFox. With the back button you can go back to the site with the still filled fields and copy them. Sometimes you can even post them successfully after logging in for another 18 times.
Edit: Wow, this post worked on the first try! *runs off to mark the day i nthe calendar with a big red X.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
Tachy
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:43:00 -
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Does this mean that you got different authentification systems for different parts of the site?
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
Ming Li
Gallente
WarpCorp
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Posted - 2006.09.22 22:01:00 -
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You could just do like I do, Kieron, and use firefox most of the time and whatever other browser for sites that don't work well in firefox (few and far between, TG). Just a suggestion  Tabbed browsing is so much more fun than having a million and one windows open
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2006.09.22 22:06:00 -
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Just to add to the feedback, God help you if you use a Mac. Even with Firefox - the most useful of the OS X browsers, as far as I can tell - you might as well be sending you forum post via pigeon-mail.
(So I use Macs at work, it's not a sin.)
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.23 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Dark Shikari
CCP, dump your ASP servers. Seriously. They suck.
I have worked on many ASP sites and they don't suck if they are programmed correctly.
QFT! ASP is great if you know what you are doing.
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Starmaps - An Insta Solution |
Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.23 08:59:00 -
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this doesnt work either time for kali
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.09.23 10:12:00 -
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Time to use asp.net 2.0 eh. Session handling is much better... so is pretty much everything.
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Xorus is teh nub :D
I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar  - Xorus |
Kalindra naskan
Amarr
Reprocity
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Posted - 2006.09.23 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kalindra naskan on 23/09/2006 10:20:37
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Hakera
use firefox kieron, it caches anything you type in the forms - just use the back button.
I would use Firefox, as many in CCP do. However, Firefox does not work with some of the back end pages and I haven't made the transition yet. Once there is a plug-in available, I'll give consideration to Firefox.
IE Tab
Firefox with all of your ebil IE luvings included!
Whoops forgot to add EVE-Downtime 
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This sig is rated "N" for Nonexistent
It's nonexistent btw - Cortes
Ok I fixed it, now what? |
Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.09.23 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
I'm sending another mail to the team to let them know this still persists and directing them to look at this thread as an example.
It's nice to see that someone with some weight actually tries to get this fixed, but this particular problem (along with many others) has been around for so long that one has to wonder whether your friendly "mails to the team" are going straight to /dev/null like the complaints of us players (we've pointed this problem out over and over again for many months now).
In my company it usually helps to identify the (most) responsible person and contact him directly, as "mails to the team" often end up being ignored since everyone thinks someone else should take care of it ... :-/
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