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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.09.22 14:19:00 -
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I have just trained for rooks and falcons. Have both ships. I have a Covert Cloaker on the Falcon of course. I have also bought the Improved Cloaker for the Rook. My problem is that I didn't know that I would have a 12 second recalibration time after decloaking.
I was under the assumption that the recon cruisers would be simular in fashion as the covert frigates. In the frigates we have the Helios and the Nemesis (I have gallente frigate 5 so bear with me). I was thinking that the Rook would have no target calibration problems and would be a coralary to the Nemesis, thinking it was the stealth bomber of the 2 cruisers.
I guess my question is will a faction cloaker help in re-calibration times? I was looking at officer cloaks and their calibration times were worse than the tech 2 variant. The Improved has 20 sec base while Hakim's has 23 seconds. True, the faction are faster while cloaked but that isn't my concern here. So, does anyone have any ideas on how to get my recalibration times down besides doing lvl 5 of cloaking to only get 5% less calibration penalty? Or is a cloaker just not used on the rook? Pardon my nuubness.
I was hoping to use this as a gate camper solo waiting for hostile ships in the frigate/cruiser range (thinking of BS too if I can get as much dps as needed for it) and was hopign to see a hostile jump in, I decloak and lock him, target dies. Looks like I will have to be at a SS near a gate and do the ole scanner routine :-)
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:19:00 -
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The Falcon is designed to use a cloak, the Rook is not.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:20:00 -
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Combat recons do not get any special boni for cloaks. That are not a stealthbomber equivalent.
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:24:00 -
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yeah Combat Recon ships are just Ewar Platforms with good firepower/resists. Not stealth bombers. Although force recons can put up a pretty good fight and use the cloak for an advantage, puting a a cloak on a combat recon is like puting a cloak on any other ship.
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xenodia
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:25:00 -
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Even the force recons have a recalibration time. They lack the stealth bombers hidden bonus that eliminates sensor recalibration. It takes me about 6 seconds from the time I hit "decloak" till the time I can actually lock something in my arazu.
But I think its precisely because of the Combat Recons cloaking troubles that we see far more people in the force recons, even in combat situations. The ability to warp while cloaked is generally worth more than the couple extra fitting slots the combat recons have.
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:30:00 -
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 Originally by: xenodia
The ability to warp while cloaked is generally worth more than the couple extra fitting slots the combat recons have.
agreed
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.09.22 16:07:00 -
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OK thanks for clearing that up guys. Was hoping though for a stealth bomber on steroids
6 seconds though for targetting on a arazu? Hell, thats better than my 12 seconds! 6 secs is enough for me to do my thing if needed. What skills you have to have for that targetting time?
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xenorx
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo
OK thanks for clearing that up guys. Was hoping though for a stealth bomber on steroids
6 seconds though for targetting on a arazu? Hell, thats better than my 12 seconds! 6 secs is enough for me to do my thing if needed. What skills you have to have for that targetting time?
Thats because he has his relavant skills trained up. With Recon 5 and the cloak skill at 5 my recal on my pilgrim is 5 seconds.
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: xenorx
Originally by: Buxaroo
OK thanks for clearing that up guys. Was hoping though for a stealth bomber on steroids
6 seconds though for targetting on a arazu? Hell, thats better than my 12 seconds! 6 secs is enough for me to do my thing if needed. What skills you have to have for that targetting time?
Thats because he has his relavant skills trained up. With Recon 5 and the cloak skill at 5 my recal on my pilgrim is 5 seconds.
yeah but that's same skills either way. 20 seconds * .6 "lvl 4 cloak skill" = 12 seconds, 10 seconds * .6 "lvl 4 cloak" = 6 seconds.
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xenodia
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: xenorx
Originally by: Buxaroo
OK thanks for clearing that up guys. Was hoping though for a stealth bomber on steroids
6 seconds though for targetting on a arazu? Hell, thats better than my 12 seconds! 6 secs is enough for me to do my thing if needed. What skills you have to have for that targetting time?
Thats because he has his relavant skills trained up. With Recon 5 and the cloak skill at 5 my recal on my pilgrim is 5 seconds.
yeah but that's same skills either way. 20 seconds * .6 "lvl 4 cloak skill" = 12 seconds, 10 seconds * .6 "lvl 4 cloak" = 6 seconds.
I dont even have to wait 12 seconds on my Snipeathron with t2 cloak. God that would suck if I did.
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:39:00 -
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Rook do have a cloaking bonus but a mostly worthless one. It's a recloak time bonus (after you uncloak you don't have to wait so long before cloaking again).
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xenodia
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Rook do have a cloaking bonus but a mostly worthless one. It's a recloak time bonus (after you uncloak you don't have to wait so long before cloaking again).
Thats true of force recons too. I forgot the combat recons had that bonus. You can recloak as soon as you finish uncloaking.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.09.23 02:49:00 -
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They really ought to "unhide" these hidden bonuses to avoid stuff like this.
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.23 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dahak2150
They really ought to "unhide" these hidden bonuses to avoid stuff like this.
Wins the thread
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.23 10:02:00 -
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i fit cloak on rook for 2 reasons
helps when travelling
dunno what else to fit in that slot
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.23 11:32:00 -
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I often use arazu without cloak :)
Reason is that cloaky recons usually tank better than non cloaky ones due to number of lowslots. And Missile bonus on lachesis is making jesus cry.
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Khann 1
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Posted - 2006.09.24 13:50:00 -
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get recon at level 5 with a rook u can jamm ur victim all the time .
i use heavy lancher t2 corpum nos medium 19 km
racial jammer or multi t2 painter t2 distrup domi 30 km
bcu t2 or sensor ampl t2
i dont use missile t2 that make u to slow but u have the bonus of lancher t2 better then lancher t1 (rof)
scrop+kawk Vs rook both jamm all the time meed 3 salves to kill the hawk without t2 ammo .
in rook u dont have drone to prevent him to run from u but with 30 km scrambler and nos at 19 km u can hold a while just enought to make a pod
i know that a bit expencive fiit domi distrup around 140 M and corpum nos around 70 M.
but u can have fun in a t1 fitt but for me t2 make u live longer .
i dont think that use a falcon for gank is a good idear u cant kill someone fast with 2 lancher.
but after level recon 5 u can use arazu have 4 gun and the ++ bonus ship for scrambler and damper nice .
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Nafri
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.24 14:04:00 -
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rook is just a exellent fleetship
with bonuses from a command ship, I lock around 200km, jamm around 200km and that with around 17 strength per jammer.
and a rook is quite cheap to loose, best jamming/isk value ever
From Dusk till Dawn
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