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Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:31:00 -
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I was under the impression that the NVA was all for unrestricted access to all regions formerly controlled by the old Venal Alliance. Free commerce and all that...
Tonight, I was told that all access to Venal was restricted to those that were only members of the NVA.
What happened to the NVA's goal of freeing the region(s) controlled by the old VA for all?
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Exel Aurora
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:34:00 -
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Well seems like Venal has become a hotspot for armed conflict and it's flaring up again. It's probably for your best interest to stay out of the region for the time being.
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Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:42:00 -
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I'm not afraid of being in a region in conflict. That's not the issue.
The issue is the NVA. Being threatened with "attack by NVA members" by an NVA member, the very organization alledged to be freeing the region for commerce, simply because I was in the Venal Region, seems no better to me than the original Venal Alliance.
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Nightm4re
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:42:00 -
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if Venal is for free access, pilots should decide whether to stay in our out of the region themselves. these "friendly advisories" smell 150 au away
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Booky
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:46:00 -
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I have not been attacked in venal by them yet. They actually escorted me through a gate last weekend.
Not sure of the names, but thanks guys. I thought for sure my Badger full of Bistot was gonna be history :-)
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:56:00 -
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Listen up,
There is a very simple reason why the NVA is restricting access to the Venal region and it has to do with the large losses they had recently sustained from former alliance member corporation "Terra Nova" and pirate corporation "Biomass Cartel". I hope you can see that there is now the potential for any current NVA corporation to fight against the NVA. Although that is unlikely to happen, it is still a possibility.
Now to get to how this involves you. Since the NVA cant exactly trust their members 100%, how could they possibly trust outsiders? The fact of the matter is that they now have an ongoing war in the region and anyone they allow in could be a potential enemy, the NVA cant allow this as they cant afford to have their battle groups split during an invasion, or have them off somewhere on the fringes of Venal policing rogues.
All of what NVA is doing is standard alliance actions and no different from the actions of other alliances. However, what is different is that once this alliance is over, everyone will be free to enter the region again. Which is much different from the Stain Alliance which will shoot you on sight if you refuse to leave the area because you do not have a pass. (If you are looking for a pass, they can be obtained through diplomatic relations, contact some CEO's of a member corp).
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:56:00 -
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noobs -- you ever hear of spies?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 04:03:00 -
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thank you for explaining on our behalf Kalki Nibiru,
Now to, Ducat DesFlynne
We have been a bit remiss in publicising this, because we are currently voting on closing Venal for the time being subsequent to yesterdays declaration of martial law.
The vote is pretty much a certainty given the situation but the formal result won't be due until tomorrow.
If you look at your starmap in-game you will see a huge blob of ships in Venal. This is an NVA war fleet there to interdict the movement Biomass and allies.
Venal is a warzone again.
Until things settle down its closed for security measures.
Love and peace
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.10.23 04:39:00 -
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all burocracies are greedy and crooked, its human nature
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.10.23 05:02:00 -
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all burocracies are greedy and crooked, its human nature
ya and the drive for better for a group will always seem greedy to outsiders LOL it all depends from were you are looking at it and your definition of greedy, if it means anything of progress for a group then some see that as greedy if it has to be done in some form of means as of protecting those who are in it, some way or another.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.10.23 05:41:00 -
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Alliances that locks regions for whatever reason are the biggest griefers in EVE.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.10.23 06:21:00 -
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Griefers? This is the way the devs intended the game to be.
Go cry in a corner care bear.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Othnark
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Posted - 2003.10.23 06:21:00 -
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Alliances that locks regions for whatever reason are the biggest griefers in EVE.
Bruaahahahaaha..............shutup
-Othnark
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.23 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 23/10/2003 06:23:43
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May I ask what is wrong with teh ebil
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.10.23 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 23/10/2003 07:55:55
I was the one who blocked Ducat. Interesting that he doesn't complain about how I podded him. You notice that? He isn't complaining that he went into Venal and his ship was destroyed.
No, he actually has the gall to complain that I warned him away from an area in which he would be KOS. I demanded no toll and set no condition, because I wanted to be very clear. Right now, Venal is filled with a whole bucnh of very angry, very trigger-happy people who just got royally shafted by a perceived ally.
I did you a favor my friend. We have been very forthright with all travellers. And no, we are not going to beg you to leave or even bother to ask a second time.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.10.23 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: PropanElgen on 23/10/2003 08:44:23
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Griefers? This is the way the devs intended the game to be.
Go cry in a corner care bear.
I am not crying, and I am certainly not a carebear.
However did you come up with that? Did you pull it outta your magic hat?
What I am trying to say tho, is that these alliances are far worse than the pirates people normally ***** about, and they shouldn't deny who they really are.
The universe of EVE are far better off with 50 Tank CEO's, than with 1 region-locking alliance.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:15:00 -
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Dont use the word griefer then. A griefer is someone who goes out of their way to purposely anger another player, for example, someone who pods someone, then routinely tracks that person down and continues to pod that person with no logical reason in mind is a griefer.
Pirates and regional alliances were meant to be part of the game. The developers all along wanted power bloc struggles.
If you dont like what is going on, bring an army or find another game.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: PropanElgen on 23/10/2003 08:44:23
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Griefers? This is the way the devs intended the game to be.
Go cry in a corner care bear.
I am not crying, and I am certainly not a carebear.
However did you come up with that? Did you pull it outta your magic hat?
What I am trying to say tho, is that these alliances are far worse than the pirates people normally ***** about, and they shouldn't deny who they really are.
The universe of EVE are far better off with 50 Tank CEO's, than with 1 region-locking alliance.
Then go pound them to dust, take the space and open it to everyone. Otherwise shut up.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:44:00 -
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Cormyat Astara,
You must be confusing me with someone else. I exited the region fully intact, after I had done my business.
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:48:00 -
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thats his point silly. you probably would not be able to say that had he not warned you.
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Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:50:00 -
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Hehe, my point was that it wasn't him who warned me, and he certainly didn't pod me as he claimed.
=)
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.10.23 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 23/10/2003 21:01:06
I never said I podded you. I said that you weren't complaining about something a person might actually have a reason to complain about, like being podded.
I did warn you. Perhaps you weren't paying attention to local. I warned about 20-30 people. The reason I remember you is because your corp is named after you.
What this tells me is that we warned you more than once. My point was that if we gave you no warning and podded you, you might have something legitimate to complain about.
We didn't. You don't.
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Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.24 16:36:00 -
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Ahh, ok.
It's entirely possible I missed you in local. I was doing a lot of jumping, and the warning I got was in a chat request, where I spent a few minutes without looking at local.
So, I take it the press release asking for Freelancer support of the NVA is no longer valid? Other than a purchase, that's essentially why I'd decided to make the trip up there. Looking for employment.
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Ducat DesFlynne
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Posted - 2003.10.24 17:05:00 -
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Duh, nevermind. I just saw the new PR Jade posted. Guess that answers that.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.24 17:09:00 -
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In keeping the notion of war alive the NVA could have this closed state remain indefinate, all you need is another party willing to play the phantom menace...
Convert Stations
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.24 17:13:00 -
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In keeping the notion of war alive the NVA could have this closed state remain indefinate, all you need is another party willing to play the phantom menace...
i suggest you go out to Jan or Obe and let 2003Cobra show you how phantom this menace really is, I got phantomed right out of my blackbird.
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2003.10.24 17:27:00 -
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thanks for the plug maud=) sorry about the BB but you know business is business. Yep I agree, once you shoot someone you get hooked. Look at me I used to be a Carebear Do not be mistaken, those days are long gone. Come visit me in Jan=)
The Phantom Menace |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.24 18:12:00 -
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Since when did pirates equal war?
Convert Stations
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.24 18:27:00 -
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Since when did pirates equal war?
When one or two of them show up it's just the cost of doing biz. When 10-15 show up in your home systems it's an invasion. You you get invaded you go to war.
thus enduth the lesson.
P.S. yeah Cobra no problem I got another just like it.....though it almost went to join it's ancestors in Jan last night.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.10.24 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 24/10/2003 18:46:27
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The universe of EVE are far better off with 50 Tank CEO's, than with 1 region-locking alliance.
That is ridiculous. I will warn anyone in my area that they must leave I will give them that message in local, PMs, convo and gang invites LOOOONG before I fire on them. I will escort them from Venal and tell them to have a nice day. I will scramble, web, lock and blast them into their clone facility ONLY if they do not comply.
Tank will do the second, but does not respect you enough to offer you the first. He wants your modules, your cargo and your biomass. I would just like you to leave me alone while I conduct a war I didn't start.
If you think regional alliances are worse than Biomass you've never lost a BS to their weak, lag-camper style.
BW
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Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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