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Starbuck05 The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Spaceship Samurai 253	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:40:04 - [1] - Quote Hello fellow C&P friends I would like to graciously ask those who are willing to share for some tips,tricks and tactics involving the above title. I would like to get your advice on the following: Optimal trade route pipes Optimal ships and alt nr's to get the job done (i don't have multiple screens ) Optimal tactics before and after prey explodes. And if its worth going after t2 haulers I've done some net research on the matter and i have the basics down , i'd just want to do it properly and preferably for profit. I also apologize if a similar thread already exists. So far i only had 2 attempts , first one was super succesfull and only took a cormorant to pop an autopiloting itty5 that droped 400 mil in loot. Second attempt i alphad a sigil who was also autopiloting but for some reason my nado only did shield and half armor damage :( sadface. Any help on the matter would be greatly apreciated. -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
Paranoid Loyd 3584	Posted - 2015.01.21 21:14:04 - [2] - Quote Optimal trade route pipes -Not sure one is optimal over another as the traffic varies drastically for a multitude of reason, obviously Jita should be involved in the route. Optimal ships and alt nr's to get the job done (i don't have multiple screens ) - 3 Accounts- Ganker, Scanner, Scooper (Can be done with two) Catalyst for AP untanked Vexor/Thorax/Moa for AP tanked or non-ap Brutix for tanked and stabbed Optimal tactics before and after prey explodes. Too much for one post, mail sent And if its worth going after t2 haulersBR Roulette is certainly a thing but very hit or miss. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1233	Posted - 2015.01.21 21:44:37 - [3] - Quote My comrade Mr. Loyd covered this fabulously, but I want to add a few additional items: Starbuck05 wrote: Optimal trade route pipes Anywhere with lots of haulers will work, but chokepoints are ideal. The Madirmilire/Niarja/Kaaputenen section of the pipe from Amarr to Jita is a prime example. Starbuck05 wrote: And if its worth going after t2 haulers For solo work, DSTs usually aren't worth it. They're tough nuts to crack. If you are particularly enterprising though, you can solo freighters using multiple gank ships dropped by an Orca, but this would requires a high degree of practice and some luck. You could likely do the same with DSTs, but you can't really bump them like you can freighters unless the pilot is asleep at the wheel and their fit is truly horribad. My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 385	Posted - 2015.01.22 01:48:54 - [4] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: you can solo freighters using multiple gank ships dropped by an Orca, but this would requires a high degree of practice and some luck. Probably not a good idea right now; according to reddit the guy that took out the bowhead in this fashion is taking an involuntary holiday, pending investigation and ruling, courtesy of CCP. There's a locked topic in GD if you want to know more. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Paranoid Loyd 3591	Posted - 2015.01.22 01:52:03 - [5] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: according to reddit the guy that took out the bowhead in this fashion is taking an involuntary holiday The KB seems to disagree https://zkillboard.com/character/878768739/ Although he does have a week off in there. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 385	Posted - 2015.01.22 02:02:39 - [6] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: according to reddit the guy that took out the bowhead in this fashion is taking an involuntary holiday The KB seems to disagree https://zkillboard.com/character/878768739/ Although he does have a week off in there. May have just been a suspension then, I would love to see the ruling on that one ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11367	Posted - 2015.01.22 02:09:54 - [7] - Quote The normal route between Dixie and Jita is pretty good for untanked T1 haulers. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Paranoid Loyd 3592	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:14:07 - [8] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: I would love to see the ruling on that one As would I "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11368	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:24:24 - [9] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: I would love to see the ruling on that one As would I If only we could discuss warnings and bans. But if we could, it might expose that the GM staff entirely ignores the actual rules of the game, and just makes things up as they go along. That said, I would love confirmation that he was in fact unbanned. It would bring me great delight to post such a thing for the smug carebears on reddit. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 300	Posted - 2015.01.22 05:03:13 - [10] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: I would love to see the ruling on that one As would I If only we could discuss warnings and bans. But if we could, it might expose that the GM staff entirely ignores the actual rules of the game, and just makes things up as they go along. That said, I would love confirmation that he was in fact unbanned. It would bring me great delight to post such a thing for the smug carebears on reddit. Heck I would just love confirmation that he was actually banned for hyperganking so we don't have to figure out if something is an exploit based on hearsay.

Amyclas Amatin SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 586	Posted - 2015.01.22 06:14:01 - [11] - Quote Globby is still kicking and active. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 141	Posted - 2015.01.22 08:47:57 - [12] - Quote Amyclas Amatin wrote: Globby is still kicking and active. So does that mean he got off scot free or received a temp ban for a first time offence? Discussion of bans, yeah, yeah, I know. :( People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Mag's the united 18817	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:47:14 - [13] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Amyclas Amatin wrote: Globby is still kicking and active. So does that mean he got off scot free or received a temp ban for a first time offence? Discussion of bans, yeah, yeah, I know. :( Both questions you ask, seem to conclude he did wrong in the first place. Could it be he was simply suspended while it was looked at and he was deemed to have done nothing wrong at all? Shocking I know, but bias be damned. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 141	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:08:36 - [14] - Quote Mag's wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: Amyclas Amatin wrote: Globby is still kicking and active. So does that mean he got off scot free or received a temp ban for a first time offence? Discussion of bans, yeah, yeah, I know. :( Both questions you ask, seem to conclude he did wrong in the first place. Could it be he was simply suspended while it was looked at and he was deemed to have done nothing wrong at all? Shocking I know, but bias be damned. The first outcome suggests there's nothing wrong with hyperganking, the latter suggests there is. I guess it's one of those things you need to create a support ticket to be sure. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1097	Posted - 2015.01.22 12:58:49 - [15] - Quote Getting back on topic, trying to pop any of the t1 combat haulers (Sigil, Nereus, Badger, and Wreathe) is always tricky as they can fit a very good passive tank. Best to go after Bestowers, Mammoths, Itty 5's and Tayra's. They are almost always stuffed with cargo expanders (rigs and modules) which lowers their tank, and will (hopefully) be stuffed with the shiny, shiny loots. As always, however, YMMV. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 486	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:05:07 - [16] - Quote And as for places to set up your ambushes, you can use Dotlan or EveEye Maps to see where the highest traffic routes are for whatever region you live in. But in fact, I made a Google spreadsheet a while back to find the most trafficked systems by security status using the API data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mRoBRvS0UpVegAxiQBjRMZ4RJ1tZztLme-Hz6vvYBhg/edit?usp=sharing If you make a copy of it you can change the range of systems you want to look at (right now it is set to 0.5-0.7), but I think staying in that range is the best place to start out ganking. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1097	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:42:41 - [17] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: wisdom Listen to this guy, he's pre-Med. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 302	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:10:26 - [18] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Mag's wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: Amyclas Amatin wrote: Globby is still kicking and active. So does that mean he got off scot free or received a temp ban for a first time offence? Discussion of bans, yeah, yeah, I know. :( Both questions you ask, seem to conclude he did wrong in the first place. Could it be he was simply suspended while it was looked at and he was deemed to have done nothing wrong at all? Shocking I know, but bias be damned. The first outcome suggests there's nothing wrong with hyperganking, the latter suggests there is. I guess it's one of those things you need to create a support ticket to be sure. Good luck. I am on my second month of waiting for a response to my rules related ticket.
Mag's the united 18818	Posted - 2015.01.23 10:15:01 - [19] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Mag's wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: So does that mean he got off scot free or received a temp ban for a first time offence? Discussion of bans, yeah, yeah, I know. :( Both questions you ask, seem to conclude he did wrong in the first place. Could it be he was simply suspended while it was looked at and he was deemed to have done nothing wrong at all? Shocking I know, but bias be damned. The first outcome suggests there's nothing wrong with hyperganking, the latter suggests there is. I guess it's one of those things you need to create a support ticket to be sure. Getting off scot free means getting away with not paying taxes. It's used to denote doing wrong and getting away with it. Like I said, you basically concluded he did wrong and either got away with it, or had a temp ban. I merely suggest he may have been suspended and found to have done nothing wrong at all. So no it doesn't suggest anything, as we do not know anything. Yes one could write a ticket, but as shown above they tend to be ignored. In the meantime, people have lives and like to have fun playing the game. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
L0rdF1end The Scope Gallente Federation 126	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:07:42 - [20] - Quote Optimal trade route pipes: Like said above unless you can get good intel on something better such as mass alliance move and their jump points out of highsec. It's all about intel but most find a spot where they like. Optimal ships and alt nr's to get the job done (i don't have multiple screens ): I do it on 1 Screen and 2 accounts but you have to be sharp. Optimal tactics before and after prey explodes: Be ready, be aligned ready for scoop and warp in with the damage boat. Have the char name added to contacts so you can see when he enters system. After the prey explodes before Eve changed was quite straight forward, warp to wreck and loot. I haven't ganked much since the changes to being flagged. How are you guys dealing with the changes to aggression, finding quieter routes? Its sad face when someone blows up your Hauler. And if its worth going after t2 haulers: If Solo stick to T1. I'm actually looking to get back into Eve so if there are any ganking corps around please pm me/mail me in game. Would be cool to share hints and tips and share killmails :)

Paranoid Loyd 3622	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:21:00 - [21] - Quote L0rdF1end wrote: Its sad face when someone blows up your Hauler. Relevant "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
L0rdF1end The Scope Gallente Federation 126	Posted - 2015.01.24 13:07:50 - [22] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: L0rdF1end wrote: Its sad face when someone blows up your Hauler. Relevant Thanks Paranoid Loyd, so basically be quick and aligned to safe, open can, initiate warp and loot.
Darian Frost Martyr's Vengence 5	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:34:29 - [23] - Quote So I guess solo ganking actually requires two accounts? One to do the gank and one on standby with a hauler of your own to loot? It doesn't seem feasible on one account as by the time you get into a hauler and get to the wreck someone may, and most likely, already looted anything of value inside. If anyone takes that risk, does your loot get stolen as often as I think or am I assuming wrong?
Starbuck05 The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Spaceship Samurai 254	Posted - 2015.01.27 08:05:44 - [24] - Quote Darian Frost wrote: So I guess solo ganking actually requires two accounts? One to do the gank and one on standby with a hauler of your own to loot? It doesn't seem feasible on one account as by the time you get into a hauler and get to the wreck someone may, and most likely, already looted anything of value inside. If anyone takes that risk, does your loot get stolen as often as I think or am I assuming wrong? Most people will investigate wrecks and if possible try to loot the valuables..so yea if ur not fast enough you don't get the prize -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??


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