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1221451125	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:01:00 - [1] Im looking into training for a command ship, the fleet command ones to be precise, but i dont understand how the warfare links work, i understand that on the fleet command ship you can run 3 at the same time and you get 3% benifit to certain ones per skill level of command ship. But what i dont get is, if i fit a command module on my ship that i dont get the benifit to it, is it worth fitting? or is the benifit piddly? For example, i fit on my EOS, a skirmish warfare link but the EOS benifit is, '3% bonus to effectiveness of Information Warfare Links per level' but the skill to use the skirmish warfare link gives, "Advanced proficiency at skirmish warfare. 100% bonus to effectiveness of skirmish warfare link modules per level" does this apply? and how effective is the skill? So i am basically asking is it worth me putting modules on that i dont get a benifit to from the ship?
Guurzak Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Guurzak on 24/09/2006 17:13:59 The race-specific command ships bonus ends up being trivial. Fit whichever modules you want on whichever command ship you can fly. Be aware, though, that each different family of gang mods requires a large and separate training investment... roughly three weeks for each additional warfare line to get to Spec IV, if you don't have the basic leadership skills already trained. (Spec V is another 4 weeks all by itself.) So for example, if you want to put Armored Warfare links on your EOS, that's fine, but if you want to put Armored and InfoWar links on it, you have to add extra training time for the second family. The Wing Command skill, which is supposed to increase the effectiveness of the Fleet COmmand ship bonus, is not seeded yet.
Eddie Lazor Monkeys Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:31:00 - [3] Edited by: Eddie on 24/09/2006 17:34:11 As i understand it dosent matter which links you ahve on what ship, except the 3% per level commandship bonus =)
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.24 19:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Eddie Edited by: Eddie on 24/09/2006 17:34:11 As i understand it dosent matter which links you ahve on what ship, except the 3% per level commandship bonus =) 2% Bonus With Everything Maxed = 27% 2% Bonus With Ship Bonus = 31.05% 3% Bonus With Everything Maxed = 40.5% 3% Bonus With Ship Bonus = 46.575% Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.24 19:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Eddie Edited by: Eddie on 24/09/2006 17:34:11 As i understand it dosent matter which links you ahve on what ship, except the 3% per level commandship bonus =) 2% Bonus With Everything Maxed = 27% 2% Bonus With Ship Bonus = 31.05% 3% Bonus With Everything Maxed = 40.5% 3% Bonus With Ship Bonus = 46.575% Wrong. 2% Bonus with everything maxed - 22.5% 2% bonus with ship bonus - 25.875% 3% bonus with everyhing maxxed - 33.75% 3% bonus with ship bonus - 38.813% --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.24 19:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Hllaxiu Wrong. 2% Bonus with everything maxed - 22.5% 2% bonus with ship bonus - 25.875% 3% bonus with everyhing maxxed - 33.75% 3% bonus with ship bonus - 38.813% Specialist Skill = "100% bonus to effectiveness of x warfare link modules per level." Is this a bug? As I assume that 100% at level I is doubling the strength. LVL : 1 2 3 4 5 STH : 2 3 4 5 6 so... 2 * 6 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 27% Thought I saw this in the patch notes somewhere saying that it was fixed to be in line with the description. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.24 20:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Hllaxiu Wrong. 2% Bonus with everything maxed - 22.5% 2% bonus with ship bonus - 25.875% 3% bonus with everyhing maxxed - 33.75% 3% bonus with ship bonus - 38.813% Specialist Skill = "100% bonus to effectiveness of x warfare link modules per level." Is this a bug? As I assume that 100% at level I is doubling the strength. LVL : 1 2 3 4 5 STH : 2 3 4 5 6 so... 2 * 6 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 27% Thought I saw this in the patch notes somewhere saying that it was fixed to be in line with the description. Then I have 6 bugged command mods on my eos... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.24 20:29:00 - [8] Ugh huh, believe you do... Link to Developer Post Originally by: Mandrake All Leadership Specialist skills such as Siege Warfare Specialization will not giva a bonus to gang modules at the first level, they do give the correct bonuse on each level after that but this means that gang modules only get a maximum of 400% bonus when the maximum should be 500%. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
1221451125	Posted - 2006.09.25 16:48:00 - [9] so will be it be 500% when its fixed? or is it designed that way
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:06:00 - [10] The biggest boost comes from the mindlink. You can only have 1 mindlink in your head at a time. So you are better off picking 1 type of mod to specialize in, and just use that. The ship bonus is nothing compared to a mindlink. A mindlinked cyclone pilot with max skills gets a much bigger bonus to skirmish warfare mods than a non-mindlinked claymore pilot. shamis
1221451125	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:14:00 - [11] if i have the skirmish spec skill at 4 and the link in, how far range will i get on a T1 warp disrupter? :)
Death Mate	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Hllaxiu Wrong. 2% Bonus with everything maxed - 22.5% 2% bonus with ship bonus - 25.875% 3% bonus with everyhing maxxed - 33.75% 3% bonus with ship bonus - 38.813% Specialist Skill = "100% bonus to effectiveness of x warfare link modules per level." Is this a bug? As I assume that 100% at level I is doubling the strength. LVL : 1 2 3 4 5 STH : 2 3 4 5 6 so... 2 * 6 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 27% Thought I saw this in the patch notes somewhere saying that it was fixed to be in line with the description. Then I have 6 bugged command mods on my eos... LOL, and you were being sarcastic.
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:59:00 - [13] Originally by: 1221451125 if i have the skirmish spec skill at 4 and the link in, how far range will i get on a T1 warp disrupter? :) you cant. Spec 5 is required for the link. I'm not gonna repeat myself more on this subject. Check the stickys and eve-search. ---------------------------------------- Back for a month cus BS5 finished.....
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.25 19:05:00 - [14] Originally by: 1221451125 if i have the skirmish spec skill at 4 and the link in, how far range will i get on a T1 warp disrupter? :) You need the link at 5. A claymore with mindlink and lvl 4 squadron command/lvl 4 command ships makes all 20km warp disruptors 27km warp disruptors. Pretty nice.
grizouh Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.26 14:19:00 - [15] Originally by: SengH Originally by: 1221451125 if i have the skirmish spec skill at 4 and the link in, how far range will i get on a T1 warp disrupter? :) you cant. Spec 5 is required for the link. I'm not gonna repeat myself more on this subject. Check the stickys and eve-search. all the answers you are looking for: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=209094 or if you prefer colourful images <g> http://grizouh.fotm.de/boni.jpg mindlink + sq 5 + cs 4 ps: the shown set up is not the one i actually use ;o)

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