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TheNecromancer
Caldari
The Royal Order
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Posted - 2006.09.25 05:27:00 -
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can you use this to make a carrier in highspace ?
and jump it from highspace to low space when you are ready ?
I know you cant build titans and mothership but ..carriers and dreadnought build in highspace ?
is that allowed ?
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.09.25 06:24:00 -
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I know you can do Carriers, I haven't checked on Dreads. However, this is a bug and will be fixed at some point.
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Aramarr
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Posted - 2006.09.25 12:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Verite Rendition
I know you can do Carriers, I haven't checked on Dreads. However, this is a bug and will be fixed at some point.
Uuhhhh... Who ever said it was a bug to be able to build carriers and dreads in a large ship assembly array? It's always been my understanding that this was intended and that the only ships requiring a capital ship assembly array were motherships and titans (also requiring system sov).
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aramarr
Originally by: Verite Rendition
I know you can do Carriers, I haven't checked on Dreads. However, this is a bug and will be fixed at some point.
Uuhhhh... Who ever said it was a bug to be able to build carriers and dreads in a large ship assembly array? It's always been my understanding that this was intended and that the only ships requiring a capital ship assembly array were motherships and titans (also requiring system sov).
Sharkbait. Search for it.
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Guurzak on 25/09/2006 13:53:00
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:53:00 -
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The bug is not that you can build carriers at a LSA; the bug is that you can do so in high-sec space.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.25 14:23:00 -
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Although it's a bit odd that they even allowed capital ships to be built in a LSA, since it is afterall a capital ship, requires capital components etc. But perhaps the production would stop if everyone had to buy CSA's for billions if they can't do it in a station of their choice (low sec).
And afaik dreads can be produced at a hi sec LSA just as well as a carrier.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.09.25 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Verite Rendition on 25/09/2006 15:43:08
Originally by: Chribba
Although it's a bit odd that they even allowed capital ships to be built in a LSA, since it is afterall a capital ship, requires capital components etc. But perhaps the production would stop if everyone had to buy CSA's for billions if they can't do it in a station of their choice (low sec).
And afaik dreads can be produced at a hi sec LSA just as well as a carrier.
Don't forget the .75x time multiplier on the LSA. Corps building cap ships out of them are making a mint right now since they can pay back investment capital 25% faster. Even though Sharkbait wasn't clear on what the "problem" was, I agree with you that it doesn't make any sense that cap ships can be constructed in a LSA; the only two reasons to use it are to skirt the sec rules or use the .75x multiplier, neither of which are supposed to be happening. Otherwise all of 0.0 and low-sec is perfectly capable of cap ship construction.
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.25 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition
the only two reasons to use it are
There's a third reason, which is that the item info for the LSA specifically says it can be used to construct carriers and dreads. Building a carrier at an LSA is using it for a purpose for which it was explicitly designed; you may disagree with that design decision but that doesn't change the fact that that's the decision the designers made.
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Mari Y'Tuk
Gallente
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.25 21:14:00 -
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the bug is your not supposed to be able to build carriers and dreads in .5 and above, using stations or LSA's using LSA's to build them in .4 is fine.
my guess is theres no system to goven types of build based on security in assembly arrays.
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Frisky Minx
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Posted - 2006.09.26 12:04:00 -
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6 posts and im still not clear on this...
1) You CAN build a carrier in 05+ system with a LSA? (game allows it atm)
2) You are not SUPPOSED to be able to? (its a known bug and will be fixed?)
Is this the current status??
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.26 12:44:00 -
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Correct.
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insulubria
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:03:00 -
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Im curious, a dread is about 2.7ish million m3, how do you build a dread in a large adv ship array which has 2.0 mill m3? Im stumped.
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bobeeb
Minmatar
FSK23
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:28:00 -
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Advanced Large is only for T2 Battleships, you mean the normal Large Ship Assembly Array with 5.000.000m¦
you can build but don`t assemble only a GM can move your ship out since the Dragon Client
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Shino Tu
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Shino Tu on 26/09/2006 21:03:00
Originally by: Frisky Minx
6 posts and im still not clear on this...
1) You CAN build a carrier in 05+ system with a LSA? (game allows it atm)
2) You are not SUPPOSED to be able to? (its a known bug and will be fixed?)
Is this the current status??
Originally by: Frisky Minx
6 posts and im still not clear on this...
1) You CAN build a carrier in 05+ system with a LSA? (game allows it atm)
2) You are not SUPPOSED to be able to? (its a known bug and will be fixed?)
Is this the current status??
What happens to it if you "do" build it in a high sec system, say 05.
Will Gms do anything, intervien? Move it?
Can you dock it in a station in 05?
I understand you can't use a jump gate, so you would have to jump out, and you can't come back, ok fine. But, can you build it there, leave it until you have a buyer, sell it and have them jump out?
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Effectively you can fully use it if you already have it in high security, it can dock, and do everything else it's supposed to do. However once you jump it out, it isn't coming back in.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: bobeeb
you can build but don`t assemble only a GM can move your ship out since the Dragon Client
Huh? So you get a message saying you cannot assemble it or what? Only applies for LSAs, or stations as well?
a GM will move it just out to space or drop it into a station?
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Dobby
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:30:00 -
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Isn't it a pain in the butt getting all those 10k m3 components into the ship array ?
-Dobby
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bobeeb
Minmatar
FSK23
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:23:00 -
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LSA only and GM`s move them out to a station in system
and yes, its a pain to haul all that m¦, but after the new patch our carrierservice at highsec is only interesting for empire corps at war now 
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: bobeeb
LSA only and GM`s move them out to a station in system
Since you seem to have done this before  Petition under what category or should it be approached another way?
Eg I put it into a ship maintenance array and petition a GM to move it to Station X?
Thanks
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