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DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:47:02 -
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I came back about a month ago, only have about 2 months under my belt so far. I have just been mining and security missions in high sec. I haven't participated in much chat or anything until today. Someone said something about how tough the game was on him. I just said, "it was on us all". And BAM. The bounties started mounting on my head. I am a lowbie with a 311+ million dollar bounty for saying "it was on us all". So, I'll wait it out I guess, if they don't want me to play. How long should I wait until I come back? And yes, I have minimized chat now and won't participate anymore. :) |
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:51:13 -
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Bounties last until someone claims them. To your benefit, they are also practically irrelevant and are unlikely to result into anyone attacking you for the bounty alone. |
DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:56:59 -
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OK, I hope so. We'll see. I'll quit before I allow high level players with unlimited amounts of isk sit around and do nothing but play childish games by randomly placing overly expensive bounties on new players in high sec zones. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:02:35 -
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Bounties do not change the rules of engagement, no one can shoot you legally unless you go suspect, criminal or enter lowsec, nullsec or WH.
Bounties are just a number under your portrait, nothing else. |
DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:06:11 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Bounties do not change the rules of engagement, no one can shoot you legally unless you go suspect, criminal or enter lowsec, nullsec or WH.
Bounties are just a number under your portrait, nothing else.
Nobody can shoot you? Do you mean nobody is "supposed" to shoot you? I would think sacrificing a 20 million isk ship for 311+ million isk might be worth it. Just trying to understand the mechanics.
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Murderhobo
Spacecake Patrol
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:12:49 -
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DAF95 wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:Bounties do not change the rules of engagement, no one can shoot you legally unless you go suspect, criminal or enter lowsec, nullsec or WH.
Bounties are just a number under your portrait, nothing else. Nobody can shoot you? Do you mean nobody is "supposed" to shoot you? I would think sacrificing a 20 million isk ship for 311+ million isk might be worth it. Just trying to understand the mechanics.
When someone kills you, they get roughly 20% of the total value of the killmail as bounty, so if you fly cheap ships it will take several kills until the entire bounty is used up and a single kill is unlikely to result in a substantial payment.
The bounty will slowly deplete over normal game play as you engage in PvP somewhere and die of unrelated reasons. It will usually be just a small bonus to people who you fight with and most people will ignore it until they get a few thousand ISK bounty notice as a pleasant surprise. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:19:05 -
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DAF95 wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:Bounties do not change the rules of engagement, no one can shoot you legally unless you go suspect, criminal or enter lowsec, nullsec or WH.
Bounties are just a number under your portrait, nothing else. Nobody can shoot you? Do you mean nobody is "supposed" to shoot you? I would think sacrificing a 20 million isk ship for 311+ million isk might be worth it. Just trying to understand the mechanics.
Nobody is supposed to shoot you, yes. As some say you are nowhere safe. However the bounty system doesn't work like you think it does. Otherwise you could just shoot yourself with an alt and claim the 311 mil. The amount paid is based on the amount of items destroyed in ISK.
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
34899
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:40:39 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:DAF95 wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:Bounties do not change the rules of engagement, no one can shoot you legally unless you go suspect, criminal or enter lowsec, nullsec or WH.
Bounties are just a number under your portrait, nothing else. Nobody can shoot you? Do you mean nobody is "supposed" to shoot you? I would think sacrificing a 20 million isk ship for 311+ million isk might be worth it. Just trying to understand the mechanics. Nobody is supposed to shoot you, yes. As some say you are nowhere safe. However the bounty system doesn't work like you think it does. Otherwise you could just shoot yourself with an alt and claim the 311 mil. The amount paid is based on the amount of items destroyed in ISK.
well, it used to work that way :) |
DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:42:22 -
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OK, so basically I was right to begin with. This was just a child acting like a child hoping to get to me. I was hoping I could get around that type of childish mentality, but I guess I can't. But it doesn't appear to be too bad yet. So thanks for the clarifications. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:19:33 -
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Bounties do expire if you go inactive for a long time (50% gets refunded), but pretty much everyone ignores them.
It's a PVP game, you get killed a lot, and the payout on each kill is smaller than what they can get from looting the wreck of your exploded ship, so I don't think anybody makes the decision to risk a whole fleet of their ships to hunt you solely for your measly bounty payout.
One thing you kinda have to do in EVE is move away from the idea of building a pristine, perfect character. You sit in station avoiding all conflict to have the perfectly skilled character, and two years down the road you push the wrong button and shoot a station and boom your perfect toon is now marred by a negative security status. It's pointless, and your bounty points this out to you right now.
Go out, play the game, shoot other players, screw the consequences. Your character isn't a princess, it's just a way for you to achieve fun. Pointless if you don't have the fun. |
DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:15:33 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Bounties do expire if you go inactive for a long time (50% gets refunded), but pretty much everyone ignores them.
It's a PVP game, you get killed a lot, and the payout on each kill is smaller than what they can get from looting the wreck of your exploded ship, so I don't think anybody makes the decision to risk a whole fleet of their ships to hunt you solely for your measly bounty payout.
One thing you kinda have to do in EVE is move away from the idea of building a pristine, perfect character. You sit in station avoiding all conflict to have the perfectly skilled character, and two years down the road you push the wrong button and shoot a station and boom your perfect toon is now marred by a negative security status. It's pointless, and your bounty points this out to you right now.
Go out, play the game, shoot other players, screw the consequences. Your character isn't a princess, it's just a way for you to achieve fun. Pointless if you don't have the fun.
Uh, what does that have to do with my question again? |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:21:30 -
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Fine, you asked how long you should wait?
I was pointing out that the posters above me who replied that bounties do not expire were wrong, and in fact you CAN actually wait for it to expire.
Cancel subscription, wait 8 months. |
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:21:52 -
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DAF95 wrote:Memphis Baas wrote:Bounties do expire if you go inactive for a long time (50% gets refunded), but pretty much everyone ignores them.
It's a PVP game, you get killed a lot, and the payout on each kill is smaller than what they can get from looting the wreck of your exploded ship, so I don't think anybody makes the decision to risk a whole fleet of their ships to hunt you solely for your measly bounty payout.
One thing you kinda have to do in EVE is move away from the idea of building a pristine, perfect character. You sit in station avoiding all conflict to have the perfectly skilled character, and two years down the road you push the wrong button and shoot a station and boom your perfect toon is now marred by a negative security status. It's pointless, and your bounty points this out to you right now.
Go out, play the game, shoot other players, screw the consequences. Your character isn't a princess, it's just a way for you to achieve fun. Pointless if you don't have the fun. Uh, what does that have to do with my question again?
It answers it.
DAF95 wrote:How long does bounty last?
Thats your thread title.(I added the ? for you since you forgot it). |
Winter Archipelago
Furtherance.
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:27:20 -
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DAF95 wrote:OK, I hope so. We'll see. I'll quit before I allow high level players with unlimited amounts of isk sit around and do nothing but play childish games by randomly placing overly expensive bounties on new players in high sec zones.
With this type of attitude, you're probably going to be quitting sooner than later, anyways.
Bounties mean nothing. The total bounty payout for a kill is 20% of the estimated value of the kill. It's largely meaningless, and only puts a pretty little "Wanted" sign under your portrait. In EVE, it's unusual to NOT have a bounty.
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DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:55:31 -
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I just wanted to know if vertearn players could grieve new players this way. It was answered, no they cant. I am happy. Sorry you hate my question and my attitude. Can I delete the thread?
I just said one sentence for my first time in chat and get bounties, then make my first post and question here, it gets misinterpreted and I get ridiculed. I will not quit due to this. But I won't participate in public if this is the way it is. Ill just work at it as far as I can alone. Wasn't my original plan, but I can adapt with my surroundings. :) |
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
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Posted - 2015.01.24 19:04:49 -
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DAF95 wrote:Ill just work at it as far as I can alone. Wasn't my original plan, but I can adapt with my surroundings. :)
EVE is a fairly bad game to play solo. I strongly recommend interacting with other players in order to get an enjoyable experience out of this game. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.01.24 19:16:46 -
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DAF95 wrote:I can adapt with my surroundings. :) One cannot adapt to his surroundings by putting his head in the sand.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.01.24 19:27:51 -
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OP is trying to delete his posts. 
I would like to point out that it is futile to do so. There is a "backup" record of this thread.
http://eve-search.com/thread/400331-1
Also, two things...
1. Don't take the game so seriously. Different playstyles are designed to affect other playstyles (for better or worse), which means that at some point they will come into conflict with one another. As a result, everyone is pretty much out to get everyone else.
And there are no rules that say you can't affect someone else just out of random feelings of spite. In fact... that's part of the fun. It generates more conflict between players.
2. Newbies can affect the game just as much as veterans can, they are simply less effective at doing so (mostly due to lacking experience, understanding, and networks).
This is why Newbies do not get any "special snowflake" consideration outside of the newbie systems.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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DAF95
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:03:39 -
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Too much hate here. I'm done. But I wish to all a good future. :) |
Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:08:41 -
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Can I haz your stuff
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:10:47 -
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DAF95 wrote:Too much hate here. I'm done. But I wish to all a good future. :)
Hate? This is just "light flaming" with some good advice sprinkled about.
If we wanted to... we could have REALLY ripped into you.
Like I said in my post above... don't take things so seriously. This is a game of conflict, warfare, and greed. You NEED a sense of humor (or just a "teflon" attitude) to play over the long haul. 
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:12:44 -
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You can't abort a thread by deleting post we will just copy it over from Eve search.
CSM 10: Mike Azariah, Sugar Kyle, Jenshae chrioptera
Do No Vote For: Tora Bushido, Bobmon
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:16:32 -
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DAF95 wrote:Too much hate here. I'm done. But I wish to all a good future. :)
Educating, and or not agreeing with someone is not "hate". Listen to Shah's words above.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:16:48 -
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Needs to be in the "So You Bought A Toon" forum
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:49:31 -
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HAHAHAHA.
Person tries to delete his posts to not make him look silly...it fails (thanks Shah for the link so I don't have to search).
Person gets answers to his questions, because he doesn't like the answers...he thinks it's hate.
Oooh, good you left, as you wouldn't have stayed anyway.
Daf95 wrote:OK, so basically I was right to begin with. This was just a child acting like a child hoping to get to me.
And, obviously, they succeeded judging by the emo-rage in this thread.
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:57:52 -
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DAF95 wrote:Too much hate here. I'm done. But I wish to all a good future. :)
Calm down miner.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.24 21:03:06 -
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