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Moe deLawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 05:30:00 -
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I don't get it. I've been to about 20 systems with labs, and all the ME slots are taken. And all for like weeks at a minimum! Is this place totally locked up by the oldtimers? Any ideas where I'd even have a chance to find any in > .4 space??
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
AFK
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Posted - 2006.09.26 05:49:00 -
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You can put them in the queue, so they'll be researched when the others are finished. The time shown for lab slots is how long they'll be taken for the entire (current) queue. You'll notice that when you add your BPO to the queue the time will increase with the amount it takes to research your BPO.
Queues probably aren't as big in low sec, but getting your BPOs there is more dangerous obviously.
Alternatively, try to get your BPO researched at a POS; some players offer this service, check the sell orders forum.
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Serret Nevets
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:54:00 -
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There's plenty of spots down here in deep 0.0, but as the previous poster said, it's EXTREMELY risky getting the BPO's down here. Also, once your down here in deep 0.0, you need to be a part of a corporation, otherwise you'll get blown up the minute you leave the station.
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 12:05:00 -
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You don't have to go deep, just going to lowsec is normaly enough. If you really want to go to 0.0 for them curse or syndicate are probably your best options, both are close to empire and at least curse had huge amount of research slots availible (at least when I lived there a month ago.
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Moe deLawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:47:00 -
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Ah, there's a queue? I guess I didn't try to put in a job yet. Even if there is a queue, if a slot says 20 days, and I add to the queue, it would then say something like 22 days (meaning the bpo would be locked in there for the first 20 days with nothing happening, then I'd get to do 1 cycle?).
Yeah, as for low sec, I've only gingerly stepped into anything below 0.5, and no way in heck would I carry a BPO. I don't even like carrying them around high sec! 
Will look into the syndicate thing, but still have no clue how that region works, or what to expect. Meanwhile, I can't do any research!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:12:00 -
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Just a warning... Syndicate is the most dangerous region in EVE.
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GC13
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
You don't have to go deep, just going to lowsec is normaly enough.
Seriously, all the labs around Heimatar, Derelik, and surrounding regions are usually full for the next ten days at least, even in lowsec. The material research situation in empire space is awful.
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Alkalja
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:40:00 -
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Get in the queue like all of us...
And one hint: If you don't have the firepower and the team to protect a BPO transport down to 0.0 - better forget about it and spend some more days in the empire queues. Better wait some days more than loosing all your stuff... 
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Moe deLawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alkalja
Get in the queue like all of us...
And one hint: If you don't have the firepower and the team to protect a BPO transport down to 0.0 - better forget about it and spend some more days in the empire queues. Better wait some days more than loosing all your stuff...
Ok, so that pretty much sums it up. The only decent way to manufacture is to have continual research being done on BP's, and that is absolutely impossible in high sec space (unless you want to wait 20 days to get a single level done  )
Which again leads me to yet another reason why older players already established with pos's and whatnot have a huge advantage in this game. They have their own labs for frig sakes.
Ya think in Kali ccp will toss us new players a bone? Something? Anything? (sorry for that, no need to reply)
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Shiftless
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:31:00 -
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When you open up the M&R sheet, and look for ME Research slots, you "can" set that list to "region" an dnot have to travel between station to see if slots are open.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
New Era 3
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:36:00 -
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Older players had to go through the same thing. The universe has expanded with each expansion. It started out smaller with a lower amount of players. Just learn to deal with it or learn to find a way around it, such as contacting a corp in 0.0 cutting a very pricey deal for them to both transport the bpo to their station and reaserch it for you. It can be done, but again, very very pricey.
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:21:00 -
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You can buy BPC's (Blue Print Copies) that are already reaserched for usually reasonable prices - do a little price shopping on these between regions escrows.
But as stated by someone else, prior to these "Queues" we had it worse as their was a finite number of lab slots that several people would tie up with friviolus reaserch and not allow for anyone to get in AT ALL, not just 20 days, you could literally go months without getting a slot.
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Wardo21
S.I.D. AG
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Posted - 2006.09.26 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Wardo21 on 26/09/2006 19:22:30
Originally by: Moe deLawn
(unless you want to wait 20 days to get a single level done )
Set it up to run for 30 days, or to whatever maximum ME you want. It will complain if the research time is greater than the 30 day limit. Unless you're researching something really big, it shouldn't be a problem. IIRC I researched a Badger II BPO to ME:13 in a month. I had to wait 12 days for it to start, but that's pretty normal.
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Moe deLawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:08:00 -
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Thanks for all the tips, everyone. I'll have to try it in high sec, as I don't have the funds or wherewithall to contract a corp from 0.0 to do it. Shame it's like this, really.
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Tunajuice
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Posted - 2006.09.27 19:26:00 -
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This is one of the ways they try to encourage people out of fed space.
You can also spend a crapload of money and buy a small POS that can research... but not really worth it for a single individual.
Eve is a multiplayer game, joining a corp may be required if you want to reach ceratin goals in a reasonable amount of time.
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DHU InMe
Gallente
JUSTICE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:51:00 -
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a agree that science lab are inbalanced.
here some good topic:
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Moe deLawn
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tunajuice
This is one of the ways they try to encourage people out of fed space.
You can also spend a crapload of money and buy a small POS that can research... but not really worth it for a single individual.
Eve is a multiplayer game, joining a corp may be required if you want to reach ceratin goals in a reasonable amount of time.
Hm, not sure if you realize it, but one step out of fed space for new players is pretty deadly these days, if you are carrying anything of value especially. CCP may want us to venture out, but ganking and piracy are so rampant, I personally have no desire yet (or the skills for tech II stuff to at least have a chance, etc.). Some routes into non-fed space are virtually impassible at the moment! Anyway, this is off topic, sorry....
And yeah, it's a multiplayer game - it's my whole corp that is having trouble getting into manufacturing. There just are too few slots to go around.
Well, will get in the queues and see what happens ;(
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
AFK
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tunajuice
This is one of the ways they try to encourage people out of fed space.
You can also spend a crapload of money and buy a small POS that can research... but not really worth it for a single individual.
Eve is a multiplayer game, joining a corp may be required if you want to reach ceratin goals in a reasonable amount of time.
Noone is forcing anyone out of high sec (at least not with the research labs). Already players are setting up a POS in high sec and renting out mobile labs. If it turns out to be a succes, no doubt others will follow the example, and a part of the economy which previously was entirely in NPC hands (lab rents) suddenly is (partially) controlled by players. That's the great thing about Eve - players find all kinds of ways to provide services and make cash; if CCP would just add lots of NPC labs, stuff like that wouldn't happen.
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:18:00 -
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Moe, low sec isn't all ebil pirates.
If you want to go into low sec, pick a dead end area - not a bottleneck system or a major route.
Go in a shuttle first, make sure your clone is up to date, and you don't really lose anything if you pick the wrong place.
Once you get into a quiet low sec system without losing the shuttle, set up bookmarks from entry gate to station, and from station to the gate to safe space.
Then come back with your bpo in a cruiser with all low slots full of nanos.
If you can avoid busy systems, you will be very very hard to catch.
Don't get into the usual mindset that you will get insta-popped everywhere in low sec. There are a lot of quiet low sec backwaters.
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