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xaix ikkul
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Posted - 2006.09.27 03:50:00 -
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does anyone have any screen shots of a sansha nightmare?
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Severus Caro
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Posted - 2006.09.27 03:55:00 -
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http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/faction/nightmare.jpg
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xaix ikkul
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Posted - 2006.09.27 05:22:00 -
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sexy, now I have something to work towards but the only problem is they go for about 1bil :(
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Darksaber64x
Ecchi co.
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Posted - 2006.09.27 06:16:00 -
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Linkage
Since not making links is mean 
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.27 07:18:00 -
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Cool trophy ship, terrible combat ship IMO.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.27 15:52:00 -
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Very bad combat ship indeed : seperate weapon systems.
It's half a raven and half an apoc without the firepower of the raven or the cap/tank of the apoc.
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Jack Bowser
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Posted - 2006.09.27 17:17:00 -
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What are the stats of this ship? Anyone know? Given a char w/ maxed missile AND laser skills, is it still that bad? |
Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.27 17:59:00 -
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guess it would make a decent nanomare ^^
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GC13
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.27 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: GC13 on 27/09/2006 18:30:35
People can whine all they want about cap usage, but I have a decent NPCing fit on Quickfit that can run dual large armor reppers forever while using four missiles (I can't remember if they were torpedoes or cruises) and two lasers and two heavy nosses. Use Standards in the lasers when the enemy stays too far out for nosses, and multifreqs when they get close enough for nos. Not only do the standards get the range out far enough, but they also bring the cap cost down low enough for the Nightmare to cope with.
Now if only LV lived out in Sansha land, I'd get myself a Nightmare and test it out for real. Seriously, the Nightmare looks so sweet...
If you want the fit, I can post it when I get home. I'm certain all the people who DON'T have a billion to waste on a trophy ship will be glad to tell me how an apoc can do it better, but the Apocalypse doesn't look nearly as awesome as the Nightmare.
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.27 19:31:00 -
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Split weapon systems simply suck. The moment you fit 1 dmg mod you fall back behind the other ships that concentrate on a single weapon system.
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Andreask14
Sensus Numinis
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.27 19:36:00 -
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But the moment you fit a HS and a BCU you will get MORE damage then with a single weapon system, scince the mods wont stack.
Or will they ?
It is good that you are not paranoid, yet, they might still be after you.
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GC13
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Andreask14
But the moment you fit a HS and a BCU you will get MORE damage then with a single weapon system, scince the mods wont stack.
Or will they ?
They won't stack. However, you'll still have lower damage than a pure weapons system with two mods.
ASSUMING:All weapons systems deal the same amount of damage.
Two slots for damage mods. THEN: Our pure ship will have two damage mods affecting ALL of its damage, while our hybrid will have one mod affecting half of the damage, and one mod affecting the other half. This leads to the hybrid basically getting the benefit of only one damage mod, making it do less damage than the pure ship.
And in case anybody cares, I'll post the fit. The cap booster is on there because I couldn't think of anything else important (afterburner for looting would be one other possibility) and just in case you messed your cap up.
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [1610 | 27] Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I [1xStandard L]
> [1610 | 27] Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I [1xStandard L]
> [1610 | 51] 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher [18xMjolnir Torpedo]
> [1610 | 51] 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher [18xMjolnir Torpedo]
> [1610 | 51] 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher [18xMjolnir Torpedo]
> [1610 | 51] 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher [18xMjolnir Torpedo]
> [2000 | 40] Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
> [2000 | 40] Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 7] Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array
> [ 1 | 7] Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array
> [ 1 | 7] Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array
> [1750 | 40] Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [4xCap Booster 800]
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [2000 | 46] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
> [2000 | 46] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
> [ 1 | 40] Armor EM Hardener I
> [ 1 | 40] Armor Thermic Hardener I
> [ 1 | 40] Armor Thermic Hardener I
> [ 1 | 40] Ballistic Control System II
> [ 0 | 7] Capacitor Power Relay II
> [ 1 | 0] Co-Processor II
Using the best named weapons is vital, as you don't exactly have CPU to toss around. Remember kids, this is to go joy riding around tearing Sanshas Nation a new one in one of their own ships.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:38:00 -
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lol such bull**** that dual weapon systems are bad ...
in the end it has +33% to rate of fire on 4 guns meaning it has 4 guns of gankageddon. (loads of firepower) combined with the overpoweredness of a raven with 4 launchers and thus being able to deal different damagetypes.
With its insane armor and good tankpower, this is a armortanking, more dps than raven and sexy looking ship. And no i dont fly one, but damn so much armor..it should be illegal.
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Trevedian
Amarr
KR0M
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
lol such bull**** that dual weapon systems are bad ...
in the end it has +33% to rate of fire on 4 guns meaning it has 4 guns of gankageddon. (loads of firepower) combined with the overpoweredness of a raven with 4 launchers and thus being able to deal different damagetypes.
With its insane armor and good tankpower, this is a armortanking, more dps than raven and sexy looking ship. And no i dont fly one, but damn so much armor..it should be illegal.
LOL The Nightmare is so Ub3r it should be illegal, you made me cackle out loud! (And I work in a library)
What can I say about the NightmareÖ?
It looks nice, thats about it...
The Nightmare is a faction BS, and the Rattlesnake and CNR can deal a way higher DPS, and tank much better... Its 4 turrets/4 launcher hardpoints is a not a good thing, its a liability, the DPS sux...
The Nightmare may have alot of Base Armor, but the size of its capacitor, while improved recently, still sucks... You can tank much better in a regular apoc...
It is the least useful Faction BS in combat and deserves a boost, SOONÖ
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:50:00 -
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To me its the amarian version of the phoon and tbh that ship is very good if u know how to use it. Yes it has split systems but u can always go for the 4nos/4siege set up and since it has such a big armor buffer it can outlast many ships.
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: xaix ikkul
sexy, now I have something to work towards but the only problem is they go for about 1bil :(
FYI player Nightmares don't look nearly as sexy as NPC Nightmares 
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pardux
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:27:00 -
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Linkage
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Zekk Pacus
Caldari
StateCorp
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:43:00 -
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Except it has the bonuses to make it a good and viable split-weapon platform, allowing you to WTFBBQOMG anyone who's expecting only laser damage. It really is a magnificently deadly faction battleship in the right hands - only the Rattlesnake and the Machariel are as deadly.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian
Originally by: madaluap
lol such bull**** that dual weapon systems are bad ...
in the end it has +33% to rate of fire on 4 guns meaning it has 4 guns of gankageddon. (loads of firepower) combined with the overpoweredness of a raven with 4 launchers and thus being able to deal different damagetypes.
With its insane armor and good tankpower, this is a armortanking, more dps than raven and sexy looking ship. And no i dont fly one, but damn so much armor..it should be illegal.
LOL The Nightmare is so Ub3r it should be illegal, you made me cackle out loud! (And I work in a library)
What can I say about the NightmareÖ?
It looks nice, thats about it...
The Nightmare is a faction BS, and the Rattlesnake and CNR can deal a way higher DPS, and tank much better... Its 4 turrets/4 launcher hardpoints is a not a good thing, its a liability, the DPS sux...
The Nightmare may have alot of Base Armor, but the size of its capacitor, while improved recently, still sucks... You can tank much better in a regular apoc...
It is the least useful Faction BS in combat and deserves a boost, SOONÖ
Split weapon systems are good tbh... don't blame the weapons blame your inept ability to use them properly.
Team Minmatar
Carriers need Clone Vats
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