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Motley Spacefarer	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:14:00 - [1] am I the only one that feel we need these ?? first off we got the gang assist modules but no mining ship can actually fit those and getting a PvP ship in order to mine better dont make much sense to me not to mention you need a large gang to make up (even with the time savings) for you not being in a mining ship here is what I would like to see Dreadnaught size Capital mining ship 6 High slots 3 HP (can fit 3 strip mining lasers and 3 gang assist modules) 2 Med slots (new module fits mid slot modular refining array gives like 20-30% + refining skills but refinines in minutes) 2 low slots base speed 50 base shields BS base armor Cruiser base hull freighter 99% reduction to stripminers 99% reduction to gang assists modules 20% bonus to mining per skill lvl I think tht covers the basics can we have those pls ?? Motley Spacefarer
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:16:00 - [2] just as long as its not allowed in high-sec. --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Motley Spacefarer	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:19:00 - [3] Originally by: xeom just as long as its not allowed in high-sec. good point .4 and below pls
Motley Spacefarer	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:20:00 - [4] Originally by: xeom just as long as its not allowed in high-sec. though is ANY of the Capital ship allowed above .4 now ??
sallyr Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:22:00 - [5] i think having a pvp ship for minning is very important, u need some1 to tank the 0.0 spawns and well a command ship is amazingly good at this (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Resistance is Futile Find us here
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:25:00 - [6] so, an I-Win button for mining, then?
Gjs312 Caldari Custodes Valhallae Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Rahn Sohwant so, an I-Win button for mining, then? Can you lose at mining? I really hate that expression...
Shittake RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:31:00 - [8] It wouldn't suprise me if Capital Mining Ships were implemented using rigs attached to existing Capital Ships - but I would not expect to see those rigs for a while.
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: Rahn Sohwant so, an I-Win button for mining, then? Can you lose at mining? I really hate that expression... Well, it's the first time I've used the expression. What I was getting at was that you're proposing one all-encompassing ship that takes all the needed organization out of a mining operation. If you don't have to arrange for a CAP to defend the miners, a command ship if you want the boni, haulers to get the ore to a refinery, and add on that it will outmine any other ship by a mile, where's the challenge, or even the fun? No.
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:44:00 - [10] Good lord.... Sounds like a fun ship, But a little to um, Much for any real corporation to use. and a 20-30% refine, Never going to happen, would completely undo the need for POS refineries. My proposal: A Corporate Storage ship, 2 High slots 2 Med Slots 2 Low slots 0 Hardpoints 2500shield 1500armor 2000 structure Boni: 20% bonus to tractor beam range per level 99% reduction in Warefare links (was a good idea) Basically, this would be a ship to be used by a corporation for storage of ores duing mining operations. Give it a 150k or so m3 corp hanger array, Very slow base speed, large sig radius etc. It would need to be a primary target for Players to go and attack, etc. What it would be good for is it would reduce the amount of time/manpower needed in a corporate mining operation, You could have this one ship sit in the middle of the belt, and have a second hauler (or if you can get at a good spot, simply everyone within ~20km range) so that a more power could be put into pure mining. Add in the warefare links to help out the gangs, and its all good! His Planetship, CEO, IM
lofty29 Gallente Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Rahn Sohwant Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: Rahn Sohwant so, an I-Win button for mining, then? Can you lose at mining? I really hate that expression... Well, it's the first time I've used the expression. What I was getting at was that you're proposing one all-encompassing ship that takes all the needed organization out of a mining operation. If you don't have to arrange for a CAP to defend the miners, a command ship if you want the boni, haulers to get the ore to a refinery, and add on that it will outmine any other ship by a mile, where's the challenge, or even the fun? No. You need a cap to defend miners? You need haulers to move stuff? At the moment, 0.0 mining ops consist of a single tank BS, 30 - 50 barges, and a gank squad of bs's to instapop anything trying to raid it. They haul using dreads / carriers jumpdrives. --------------------------- WTB - Officer Adaptive Nano Platings (NOT energized) I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg Noes i got beat by a girl >.< - Xorus
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:08:00 - [12] Originally by: lofty29 You need a cap to defend miners? You need haulers to move stuff? At the moment, 0.0 mining ops consist of a single tank BS, 30 - 50 barges, and a gank squad of bs's to instapop anything trying to raid it. They haul using dreads / carriers jumpdrives. Um, in your example, the 'gank squad' is what I'm referring to as CAP, and the dread or carrier is the hauler. So... yeah. I suppose with the proposed ship you'd still need that gank squad to defend from actual player operations, though.
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Rahn Sohwant Originally by: lofty29 You need a cap to defend miners? You need haulers to move stuff? At the moment, 0.0 mining ops consist of a single tank BS, 30 - 50 barges, and a gank squad of bs's to instapop anything trying to raid it. They haul using dreads / carriers jumpdrives. Um, in your example, the 'gank squad' is what I'm referring to as CAP, and the dread or carrier is the hauler. So... yeah. I suppose with the proposed ship you'd still need that gank squad to defend from actual player operations, though. By CAP did you mean Capital ship (IE Carrier) or Command air Patrol, IE, Your roaming defense force? I think they just got a bit confused... His Planetship, CEO, IM
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:23:00 - [14] Ah, yes... I meant Combat Air Patrol, although I guess it would be more of a Combat Space Patrol.
Eve Hel	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:39:00 - [15] i generally like the idea of a capital miner.. however i dont like 2 of your details: a miner haven gang modules=no thats not a good idea itsa a miner not a gang ship, its just not good. and the refinery module i also think is a bad idea TOO powerful i think... but beside that you have my vote haha and yes to the not enter empire space part offcaurse not i say, in fact it should be restricted to 0.0 only Generally a nice idea.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: Rahn Sohwant so, an I-Win button for mining, then? Can you lose at mining? Yes, you lose by training the mining skills. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:52:00 - [17] In response to this thread and several others I came up with a rough idea... Could use some optimization, but read it here. BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Ralus eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.27 19:17:00 - [18] Whats needed is a large ore capital class vehicle capable of large scale ore an mineral storage, the ability to run mining uplinks and refine ore and support a large mining operation out of corp territories. For instance: Galleon 3000 shield hp 2000 armour hp 100,000m^3 capacity 2 High 1 Mid 0 Low -99% cpu reduction in gang link modules -99% cpu reduction in mobile refinary system
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.09.27 19:23:00 - [19] Carebears needs love just like anyone else, by giving them ships not changing game mechanics. Please only include eve-online related quotes in your signature area - Jacques([email protected])
BoinKlasik God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.09.27 19:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Ralus Whats needed is a large ore capital class vehicle capable of large scale ore an mineral storage, the ability to run mining uplinks and refine ore and support a large mining operation out of corp territories. For instance: Galleon 3000 shield hp 2000 armour hp 100,000m^3 capacity 2 High 1 Mid 0 Low -99% cpu reduction in gang link modules -99% cpu reduction in mobile refinary system a cap ship w/ a combined total of 5000 non strucutre hp? doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Motley Spacefarer	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Eve Hel i generally like the idea of a capital miner.. however i dont like 2 of your details: a miner haven gang modules=no thats not a good idea itsa a miner not a gang ship, its just not good. and the refinery module i also think is a bad idea TOO powerful i think... but beside that you have my vote haha and yes to the not enter empire space part offcaurse not i say, in fact it should be restricted to 0.0 only Generally a nice idea. even if we where to drop the refining module completely its a Capital miner for crying out loud it needs to have some advantage over a L barge or the Hulk notice I did put 3 HP on there its able to use the assist m odules cause no mining ship can currently use the 2 mining assist modules we have the 2 mining assist modules that I would guess the mining one gets used ocasionally I doubt anyone ever use the ice mining assist module (please correct me if I am wrong)
Velt Lhasar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.27 21:16:00 - [22] they should change the titan superweapon to something that insta mines all ore on grid :)
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:35:00 - [23] Originally by: Velt Lhasar they should change the titan superweapon to something that insta mines all ore on grid :) Ha ha marvellous stuff - insta belt rape It couldn't ever be implemented, but i'd love to see it happen once
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:43:00 - [24] Asteroid scoop! --------------------------------------------------------------------
ragewind Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.27 22:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Motley Spacefarer am I the only one that feel we need these ?? first off we got the gang assist modules but no mining ship can actually fit those and getting a PvP ship in order to mine better dont make much sense to me not to mention you need a large gang to make up (even with the time savings) for you not being in a mining ship here is what I would like to see Dreadnaught size Capital mining ship 6 High slots 3 HP (can fit 3 strip mining lasers and 3 gang assist modules) 2 Med slots (new module fits mid slot modular refining array gives like 20-30% + refining skills but refinines in minutes) 2 low slots base speed 50 base shields BS base armor Cruiser base hull freighter 99% reduction to stripminers 99% reduction to gang assists modules 20% bonus to mining per skill lvl I think tht covers the basics can we have those pls ?? Motley Spacefarer yes this would be a wicked idea seems mad that they added the hulk so you can have someone tanking the belt spawns and still minin yet should you want to max out gang mining skills and uses the mods you have to then uses a main carictor to train BC or comand ships to have the skills and ship to uses the moduals when they are usesually combat and miner alt. would be good to have the ability to work on something to do both on a dedicated mining toon. and with this set up you have basically a hulk mated with a comand ship so it isnt overpowered regarding the mining ability ------------------------------------ Dragon the patch to optimise EVE. Welcome to Tranquillity the optimised snail Please wait 4 minuets to jump war targets are 2 seconds away.
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2006.09.27 23:26:00 - [26] Nah, we don't need capital-class miners. What we need is for mining links to be low-slot modules and for barges/exhumers to get a bonus to allow fitting.
Caedicus Minmatar InterSec	Posted - 2006.09.27 23:40:00 - [27] Originally by: ragewind yes this would be a wicked idea seems mad that they added the hulk so you can have someone tanking the belt spawns and still minin yet should you want to max out gang mining skills and uses the mods you have to then uses a main carictor to train BC or comand ships to have the skills and ship to uses the moduals when they are usesually combat and miner alt. That has to be one of the longest run-on sentences I've ever seen. I wish I could give you a prize.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.28 00:21:00 - [28] I'd love to see said Capital Miner have fighter-sized mining drones, too. That would be very cool. And I bet every Pirate in the game would be salivating at the chance to mob, scramble, and generally pop one of tese to wee little bits. I don't think it'd be the proverbial "I Win button", as (being a non-combat ship) it'd be relatively fragile for a cap ship, and the huge cost + the risk of losing it would balance out the general uberness. And yeah, if it uses a cyno-based jump drive, it'd be low sec only. And thats good- all we'd need would be to give Macro's the ultimate miner :) Anyhow, general /signed. Miners are people too.......
Karoth Tyu FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.09.28 01:26:00 - [29] If its a mobile refinery with low yield, no jump capability, and is not allowed above .4, then I'll support this idea.
Gonada Gallente Cross Roads	Posted - 2006.09.28 01:51:00 - [30] just say no to easy mining. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-

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