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Don Peyote
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:48:06 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have again removed a rule breaking post. Please, refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'.
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Corey Lean
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:03:45 -
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Marlona: can you talk about the TMC jabber logs dump and why you felt that was necessary or the reasoning behind it? And what reassurances can you give us the community that such a thing wouldnt happen with more sensitive things like CSM skype logs.. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
856
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Posted - 2015.01.30 20:56:50 -
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Marlona can you leak me a convo where it is clearly explained why you would be a good fit for the CSM? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
16013
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:35:17 -
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Marlona really cares about the game, and he has shown time and again that he's prepared to put in the effort not just to identify an issue (the easy part) but to analyse it and work through the components and identify the core problems. That kind of analysis is exactly the resource the CSM needs when it comes to dealing with the big problems we want them to represent to CCP.
It doesn't matter a tiny bit if you hate the solutions that Marlona has proposed, because to be candid, CCP devs tend to ignore solutions proposed by CSMs (and for good reasons). What they absolutely do take on board are well reasoned, properly presented analyses of why 'x' is a problem and why it's going to create further problems down the road. (Or how 'y' can be an opportunity).
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Marlona Sky
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
5899
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:45:04 -
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Malcanis wrote:Marlona really cares about the game, and he has shown time and again that he's prepared to put in the effort not just to identify an issue (the easy part) but to analyse it and work through the components and identify the core problems. That kind of analysis is exactly the resource the CSM needs when it comes to dealing with the big problems we want them to represent to CCP.
It doesn't matter a tiny bit if you hate the solutions that Marlona has proposed, because to be candid, CCP devs tend to ignore solutions proposed by CSMs (and for good reasons). What they absolutely do take on board are well reasoned, properly presented analyses of why 'x' is a problem and why it's going to create further problems down the road. (Or how 'y' can be an opportunity).
It's not too late to run again yourself you know. 
The Paradox
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
16013
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:48:13 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Malcanis wrote:Marlona really cares about the game, and he has shown time and again that he's prepared to put in the effort not just to identify an issue (the easy part) but to analyse it and work through the components and identify the core problems. That kind of analysis is exactly the resource the CSM needs when it comes to dealing with the big problems we want them to represent to CCP.
It doesn't matter a tiny bit if you hate the solutions that Marlona has proposed, because to be candid, CCP devs tend to ignore solutions proposed by CSMs (and for good reasons). What they absolutely do take on board are well reasoned, properly presented analyses of why 'x' is a problem and why it's going to create further problems down the road. (Or how 'y' can be an opportunity).
It's not too late to run again yourself you know.
Nah, a good con man should never get greedy.
Besides, the big downside of a free holiday in Iceland is that it's a free holiday in Iceland.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2416
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:01:45 -
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Malcanis wrote:
Besides, the big downside of a free holiday in Iceland is that it's a free holiday in Iceland.
Yeah, my wife questions whether we can afford any more 'free' things.
That aside, Marlona welcome to the race. Looks like you have your share of both supporters and detractors which I take as a good thing. You make waves.
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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Garr Khan
Future Methods
18
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:06:25 -
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Good luck with that, you log-leaker. |
Dagoth Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:42:20 -
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Marlona has demonstrated that he is particularly well suited to the office of CSM. His willingness to compromise, and his flexibility, are well documented. Others might be inclined to "stick to their guns", stubbornly, on issues great and small. Marlona has compromised on such issues, and will probably continue to do so. Marlona has demonstrated a remarkable ability to hold nuanced views on unequivocally stated positions, which is --as with real world politics-- vitally necessary to accomplish one's goals in any real capacity. That these character traits are indeed adaptive to CSM service can be seen in the spirited endorsements of CSM members past and present; this are no mere conjecture on my part.
You have my vote! |
Marlona Sky
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
5903
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:49:28 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Besides, the big downside of a free holiday in Iceland is that it's a free holiday in Iceland.
Yeah, my wife questions whether we can afford any more 'free' things. That aside, Marlona welcome to the race. Looks like you have your share of both supporters and detractors which I take as a good thing. You make waves. m
Thanks for the welcome. It should be a rather entertaining race. So far nothing I can't handle. Would be nice to get some more real questions instead of the ultra exaggerated and flat out lies from some people though. But, nothing I wasn't expecting from the usual Grrr Marlona rabble.
The Paradox
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Mynxee
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
48
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:58:06 -
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Here's a question for you. I know you spend a fair amount of time helping newer players in-game. Can you talk a little bit about that and share some of the most serious challenges you've seen them struggle with during their trial period and for the first couple of months in-game? What are some methods you would like to see CCP employ to mitigate the most common new player struggles?
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC
Goonswarm Federation
402
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Posted - 2015.01.30 23:15:32 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:
Thanks for the welcome. It should be a rather entertaining race. So far nothing I can't handle. Would be nice to get some more real questions instead of the ultra exaggerated and flat out lies from some people though. But, nothing I wasn't expecting from the usual Grrr Marlona rabble.
That you don't want to answer them doesn't make them any less real. So far, everything you've claimed was untrue has been truthful.
Ultimately while leaking personal information was bad judgment, everyone does something stupid every so often. What's really worrying though is the apparent inability to own up to a mistake. That personal information was in those logs has been so well-documented to be undeniable. So one has to question why you try so hard to insist it was not there and that everyone saying the sky is blue is lying, rather than own up to that you made an error in judgment and saying that you'll do better next time. An inability to own up to mistakes is not a good trait, lying about them an even worse one. |
Corey Lean
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2015.01.30 23:19:07 -
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I'll try phrasing my question another way: should people in a working group like the CSM with access to a non-public channel like skype or jabber have a reasonable expectation of privacy and be able to have candid and honest discourse about the game? |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
857
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Posted - 2015.01.30 23:52:52 -
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Marlona Sky wrote: But, nothing I wasn't expecting from the usual Grrr Marlona rabble.
Can you leak post a list of this Grr Marlona rabble you speak of? it might make CSD's job easier of keeping this thread clean if you rat them out.
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Garr Khan
Future Methods
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Posted - 2015.01.31 00:07:17 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:
Thanks for the welcome. It should be a rather entertaining race. So far nothing I can't handle. Would be nice to get some more real questions instead of the ultra exaggerated and flat out lies from some people though. But, nothing I wasn't expecting from the usual Grrr Marlona rabble.
That you don't want to answer them doesn't make them any less real. So far, everything you've claimed was untrue has been truthful. Ultimately while leaking personal information was bad judgment, everyone does something stupid every so often. What's really worrying though is the apparent inability to own up to a mistake. That personal information was in those logs has been so well-documented to be undeniable. So one has to question why you try so hard to insist it was not there and that everyone saying the sky is blue is lying, rather than own up to that you made an error in judgment and saying that you'll do better next time. An inability to own up to mistakes is not a good trait, lying about them an even worse one.
lmbo good luck getting an honest answer to this well-crafted and reasonable question |
Corey Lean
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2015.01.31 00:38:32 -
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Q: should a CSM candidates constituency be the entire EVE playerbase or is it right for them to ignore people or alliance tags they dont like? |
Marlona Sky
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
5903
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Posted - 2015.01.31 00:49:43 -
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Corey Lean wrote:Q: should a CSM candidates constituency be the entire EVE playerbase or is it right for them to ignore people or alliance tags they dont like?
Ignoring someone because they fly a different corp/alliance flag or enjoy a different part of the game than you is a terrible philosophy to have as a CSM.
The Paradox
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3198
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Posted - 2015.01.31 01:05:42 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have again removed a rule breaking post. Please, refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'.
Why didn't you just lock the thread? You're more than happy to lock threads you have to visit three times for moderating why does this one get special treatment and get to stay open?
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Marlona Sky
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
5903
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Posted - 2015.01.31 01:11:47 -
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Mynxee wrote:Here's a question for you. I know you spend a fair amount of time helping newer players in-game. Can you talk a little bit about that and share some of the most serious challenges you've seen them struggle with during their trial period and for the first couple of months in-game? What are some methods you would like to see CCP employ to mitigate the most common new player struggles?
The days following This Is EVE trailer was amazing in the rookie help channel. The place was flooded with new players with what seemed like the same tutorial snags. It was amazing to see the veteran players jump in and tirelessly answer the endless flood of questions. While the current tutorial is infinitely better than what I experienced as a new player, it still needs work. I spent a good amount of time in the rookie channel doing everything from answering basic questions to helping with anti-gank fits for their Ventures. Even taking to Skype to do screen shares and walking them through specific parts. For one new player I spent an hour and a half with him figuring things out. He is doing well in EVE University and I believe planning on joint RvB after.
For changes to it I would like to see more immediate action for the new player to experience. Maybe they start off with limited control of a battleship and through the excitement of the battle they learn a few thing like locking targets and shooting. Making things blow up. Whatever it may be, as long as it puts them on the edge of their seat craving more.
The Paradox
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Richard Bong
Hole Violence
Whole Squid
59
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Posted - 2015.01.31 01:28:05 -
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Why were you brought up in the CSM minutes?
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Garr Khan
Future Methods
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Posted - 2015.01.31 02:04:56 -
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Richard Bong wrote:Why were you brought up in the CSM minutes?
WHat do I do to help newbies? Good question sir, |
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2417
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Posted - 2015.01.31 02:23:47 -
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Richard Bong wrote:Why were you brought up in the CSM minutes?
Perhaps for the excellent article suggestingn jump range changes that came out before the changes instituted in the game?
could you be specific on which minutes, which session rather than such a vague question?
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Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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thetwilitehour
GoonWaffe
298
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Posted - 2015.01.31 02:28:24 -
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If hypothetically a candidate had a history of being unprofessional in online relationships, and had violated implicit disclosure agreements in the past, as well as being a massive hypocrite, do you think such a hypothetical candidate should be considered a strong candidate for the CSM?
If there was such a candidate, what questions would you want to ask them, and would you advise them to provide open and honest answers to their constituents or to hide behind the ISD? |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4222
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Posted - 2015.01.31 03:06:39 -
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Removed a post discussing moderation.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
370
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Posted - 2015.01.31 03:10:48 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Thanks for the welcome. It should be a rather entertaining race. So far nothing I can't handle. Would be nice to get some more real questions instead of the ultra exaggerated and flat out lies from some people though. But, nothing I wasn't expecting from the usual Grrr Marlona rabble.
Please point to the "ultra exaggerated and flat out lies" in the question I posed. I'm curious, genuinely.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
530
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Posted - 2015.01.31 14:02:09 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Richard Bong wrote:Why were you brought up in the CSM minutes? Perhaps for the excellent article suggestingn jump range changes that came out before the changes instituted in the game?
You mean those changes which have made the game even more stagnate than it was before?
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
Naquatech Syndicate
1722
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Posted - 2015.01.31 15:09:34 -
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I that case...
What is your view on the:
- coming corp and alliance revamp
- coming sov changes
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Corey Lean
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2015.01.31 15:27:43 -
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Corey Lean wrote:I'll try phrasing my question another way: should people in a working group like the CSM with access to a non-public channel like skype or jabber have a reasonable expectation of privacy and be able to have candid and honest discourse about the game?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4853
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:31:08 -
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Corey Lean wrote:Corey Lean wrote:I'll try phrasing my question another way: should people in a working group like the CSM with access to a non-public channel like skype or jabber have a reasonable expectation of privacy and be able to have candid and honest discourse about the game?
Just for reference, the CSM does have this.
Backed by the NDA. (which is a contract, with not insubstantial penalties for breaking it)
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
372
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:41:37 -
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Quote:*Snip* Please refrain from posting private in game correspondence. ISD Ezwal.
Who knew this was a rule.
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