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Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 53	Posted - 2015.01.31 09:53:40 - [1] - Quote I propose that there be a limit to the number of new forum threads created per character, within a reasonable time period. It seems that there are some who just cannot resist creating multiple concurrent threads whenever something pops into their head, without giving any serious consideration to the validity of the thread and the forum contributors as a whole. Repeatedly creating multiple related threads in short order is nothing short of an attempt to dominate the forum. One new thread, per day, per character. And a limit on the total number of open threads too.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 53	Posted - 2015.01.31 10:10:57 - [2] - Quote This would of course not be applicable to employees of CCP, ISD volunteers, or CSMs.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 936	Posted - 2015.01.31 10:23:43 - [3] - Quote then reduce the limit by one for a time period per thread locked for being a reposted idea or a troll thread :D
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8705	Posted - 2015.01.31 10:47:46 - [4] - Quote isd sanctioned killrights, displayed on your forum profile but you cant see it so you dont know you have one till someone activates it. distributed upon locked threads op at the isd's discretion. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Rroff Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 891	Posted - 2015.01.31 11:33:04 - [5] - Quote I have quite a lot of characters, that wouldn't stop me even if it was per account.
Alvatore DiMarco Capricious Endeavours Ltd 3389	Posted - 2015.01.31 14:15:16 - [6] - Quote Rroff wrote: I have quite a lot of characters, that wouldn't stop me even if it was per account. This is the entire reason why OP's idea is utterly useless.
Iain Cariaba 995	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:43:29 - [7] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: Rroff wrote: I have quite a lot of characters, that wouldn't stop me even if it was per account. This is the entire reason why OP's idea is utterly useless. Sure it's useless. However, as the people OP is refering to always seem to put it, wouldn't it be nice? EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 53	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:50:23 - [8] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: I propose that there be a limit to the number of new forum threads created per character, within a reasonable time period. It seems that there are some who just cannot resist creating multiple concurrent threads whenever something pops into their head, without giving any serious consideration to the validity of the thread and the forum contributors as a whole. Repeatedly creating multiple related threads in short order is nothing short of an attempt to dominate the forum. One new thread, per day, per character. And a limit on the total number of open threads too. So I couldn't open a character sale post, and start a corp recruiting thread, and start a test feedback thread on a bug I found in the same day. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
Zimmer Jones Aliastra Gallente Federation 100	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:12:48 - [9] - Quote One new topic in the F&I (ed: per day I mean) would be good enough, any extra ideas can be written down and refined and would be better for it. This forum does get alot crap ideas and some extra time and a limit would mean people have to prioritize their brain farts. Would include idea from other forums moved to F&I or people will post ideas elsewhere and create more work for the mods.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:16:35 - [10] - Quote You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:19:23 - [11] - Quote In fact the only ideas the OP and defenders of his suggestion suport are the ones that does not shake their status quo. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Iain Cariaba 995	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:29:43 - [12] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. Nope. In my case it's because I step back and ask myself, "Am I suggesting this for the betterment of the game as a whole, betterment for just the way I play, or simply because I think it's a neat idea?" If the answer is no to the first part, but yes to either of the other two, then I don't post it. Van Beyus wrote: In fact any ideas the OP and defenders of this suggestion suport are the ones that does not shake their status quo. Also no. Nothing shook up the status quo quite like jump fatigue, which I fully support even though I've an alt that's a carrier pilot, and another currently training for dreads. You must realize that just because you've had an idea that it is not automatically original, nor is it automatically a good idea. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Airforce Annie Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:33:13 - [13] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. ^best reason for limiting posts to the highest SP char. post with your main
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 53	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:08:36 - [14] - Quote I liked it that most people understand what I am saying. And some good suggestions too. Ralph King-Griffin wrote: isd sanctioned killrights, displayed on your forum profile but you cant see it so you dont know you have one till someone activates it. distributed upon locked threads op at the isd's discretion. Hmmm
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:20:06 - [15] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. Nope. In my case it's because I step back and ask myself, "Am I suggesting this for the betterment of the game as a whole, betterment for just the way I play, or simply because I think it's a neat idea?" If the answer is no to the first part, but yes to either of the other two, then I don't post it. What if the answer is yes to all the 3 parts? Do you post it? If yes, then you agree because you indeed don't get many ideas. What if the answer is yes to only the first and the second? Do you post it? You shouldn't, because games are supposed to be neat to yourself too. What if the answer is yes only to the first and the third parts? Do you post it? I'm really curious about that one. If yes, please give an example. Iain Cariaba wrote: You must realize that just because you've had an idea that it is not automatically original, nor is it automatically a good idea. Yes, I realize that. I've played this game a lot, so I have an idea (no pun intended). I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:24:36 - [16] - Quote Airforce Annie wrote: Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. ^best reason for limiting posts to the highest SP char. post with your main This idea is bad, because people can use alt accounts just to post BS. I don't have a main. All my toons are alts, the only main is myself. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 53	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:25:49 - [17] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. You seem offended by my proposal. Interesting...
Anhenka The Cult of Personality DARKNESS. 954	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:32:07 - [18] - Quote I would prefer that the prolific shiptoasters troll threads show up under the same name so I know which threads not to bother with.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:43:42 - [19] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. You seem offended by my proposal. Interesting... I'm a very interesting person full of original ideas. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8710	Posted - 2015.01.31 19:01:58 - [20] - Quote Anhenka wrote: I would prefer that the prolific shiptoasters troll threads show up under the same name so I know which threads not to bother with. Forum gold had a great tagging feature which I used for exactly this, the recent forum updates seem to have disabled most if not all of its functionality, though I haven't checked it out since so it may have been sorted out. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Max Deveron Deveron Shipyards and Technology 165	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:07:14 - [21] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: isd sanctioned killrights, displayed on your forum profile but you cant see it so you dont know you have one till someone activates it. distributed upon locked threads op at the isd's discretion. an interesting idea......i said the same once to a Dev at fanfest.....dont ban confirmed botters.....just give them a permanent suspect status so we can shoot them.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 54	Posted - 2015.02.01 03:13:11 - [22] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: Van Beyus wrote: You're just jealous you don't get as many genuine ideas. You seem offended by my proposal. Interesting... I'm a very interesting person full of original ideas. Then with all due respect, start your own grande thread and call it "My Interesting & Original Ideas". You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. Anytime you feel a need to present your original ideas, post away in your thread! People can choose to read your many postings and some will even participate. It is your thread to develop. Some threads have been going for a very long time and still entertain many. Perhaps yours will too.
Petrified TOG - The Older Gamers TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 211	Posted - 2015.02.01 05:34:03 - [23] - Quote I'm sorry, but what is the purpose? No one can dominate the forums if no one responds to the threads. So unless someone is responding to their own thread repeatedly - which I believe would raise the ire of ISD, they would need alts, which, if they have them, negates the proposal you make. If someone spams the forums, no one has to respond. Though, the idea of sanctioned kill rights against repeat offenders in the forums of any type has a certain appeal.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8719	Posted - 2015.02.01 10:04:16 - [24] - Quote Petrified wrote: I'm sorry, but what is the purpose? No one can dominate the forums if no one responds to the threads. So unless someone is responding to their own thread repeatedly - which I believe would raise the ire of ISD, they would need alts, which, if they have them, negates the proposal you make. If someone spams the forums, no one has to respond. Though, the idea of sanctioned kill rights against repeat offenders in the forums of any type has a certain appeal. I know right, the only issue with it is forum alts, and potentially outing their mains which is why we can't block people on account level. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:22:58 - [25] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 55	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:50:47 - [26] - Quote
Iain Cariaba 1006	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:53:33 - [27] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? Not everyone, just the ones who can't seem to help stinking up the forums with every little brain fart that bubbles up in thier heads. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. "This reminds me - I must complain to my local butcher about him not catering to vegitarians." - admiral root responding to someone whining about too much PvP in Eve Online.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8724	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:04:50 - [28] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? Not everyone, just the ones who can't seem to help stinking up the forums with every little brain fart that bubbles up in thier heads. we have twitter for that "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:21:04 - [29] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? Not everyone, just the ones who can't seem to help stinking up the forums with every little brain fart that bubbles up in thier heads. And who will be responsible for the sanitation service? You? Are you an authority in the subject as a matter of fact? I'm dying to know that. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Iain Cariaba 1007	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:33:39 - [30] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? Not everyone, just the ones who can't seem to help stinking up the forums with every little brain fart that bubbles up in thier heads. And who will be responsible for the sanitation service? You? Are you an authority in the subject as a matter of fact? I'm dying to know that. Well, let's look at this objectively. Do you feel the urge to make a thread every time you imagine you have a way to improve something in the game? Do you feel that you don't need to bother searching the forums to see if your "Wonderful Idea" has been posted, usually repeatedly, before? Do you feel hurt when no one else seems to see how your "Wonderful Idea" will help in whatever little section of the game you call home? Does the above happen to you more than once per day? If you said yes to any of the above, then the suggestion in this thread would probably apply to you. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. "This reminds me - I must complain to my local butcher about him not catering to vegitarians." - admiral root responding to someone whining about too much PvP in Eve Online.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:52:20 - [31] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: Van Beyus wrote: Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: You don't need to start a separate thread every time you have something new to post. So you're saying every character should have their own personal thread where they'd post all of their ideas? Sounds like an idea! Why don't you post it on your thread so we can discuss it? Not everyone, just the ones who can't seem to help stinking up the forums with every little brain fart that bubbles up in thier heads. And who will be responsible for the sanitation service? You? Are you an authority in the subject as a matter of fact? I'm dying to know that. Well, let's look at this objectively. Do you feel the urge to make a thread every time you imagine you have a way to improve something in the game? Do you feel that you don't need to bother searching the forums to see if your "Wonderful Idea" has been posted, usually repeatedly, before? Do you feel hurt when no one else seems to see how your "Wonderful Idea" will help in whatever little section of the game you call home? Does the above happen to you more than once per day? If you said yes to any of the above, then the suggestion in this thread would probably apply to you. The only thing that really bothers me is arrogant players who think they have any authority over what is allowed and what is not allowed for other players to do. For this there are the forum rules and moderators. I shouldn't be prohibited from opening a new thread just because this shakes the fragile sense from some people of what is acceptable and what is not to be on the forums. If you're not interested in discussing an idea with valid arguments, just don't post on that thread. It will eventually fade into obscurity. Good or bad are subjective concepts. Different people face it differently and the world is full of differences, so if you want to avoid this reallity then dig yourself into a hole, otherwise just learn to deal with it. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 55	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:04:08 - [32] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: The only thing that really bothers me is... Everything/everyone seems to bother you. You don't seem to grasp the complexities of Eve mechanics or social interaction. Perhaps it is not the game for you.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:08:21 - [33] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: Van Beyus wrote: The only thing that really bothers me is... Everything/everyone seems to bother you. You don't seem to grasp the complexities of Eve mechanics or social interaction. Perhaps it is not the game for you. You seem to know me pretty well. Well, maybe not. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:10:44 - [34] - Quote I'll stay playing it for as long as I want either way. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 55	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:39:43 - [35] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: I'll stay playing it for as long as I want either way. Of course.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:42:57 - [36] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: Van Beyus wrote: I'll stay playing it for as long as I want either way. Of course. Unless, of course, one my forum animosities decides to come here and turn off my computer, but I don't believe that is going to happen. So let's quit the subject. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 55	Posted - 2015.02.01 23:46:07 - [37] - Quote ...
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 2319	Posted - 2015.02.02 03:05:49 - [38] - Quote You might as well just call me out by name. It's true, you got me. I'll try to show some restraint from now on. I don't think limiting per character will do what you intend because POTM (people other than me) can just use alt accounts to post. CSM X: Sabriz Adoudel, Mike Azariah, Xander Phoena, Sugar Kyle, Corbexx, Jenshae Chiroptera, Marlona Sky Highsec reform thread
Iain Cariaba 1013	Posted - 2015.02.02 05:37:52 - [39] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: The only thing that really bothers me is arrogant players who think they have any authority over what is allowed and what is not allowed for other players to do. For this there are the forum rules and moderators. I shouldn't be prohibited from opening a new thread just because this shakes the fragile sense from some people of what is acceptable and what is not to be on the forums. If you're not interested in discussing an idea with valid arguments, just don't post on that thread. If no one is interested, it will eventually fade into obscurity. Good or bad are subjective concepts. Different people face it differently and the world is full of differences, so if you want to avoid this reallity then dig yourself into a hole, otherwise just learn to deal with it. The thing is, even when we present valid arguments, people always denounce them as coming from bittervets afraid of change, or that it somehow "shakes the fragile sense from some people of what is acceptable," or else that somehow, simply because you came up with a bad idea, it is our fault that we do not simply bow down to your awesomeness. Most of the suggestions made are made by people who don't fully understand either the mechanics behind what they want, or don't understand the mindset of the average Eve Online player, and how badly most ideas can be utterly abused by the playerbase. It's not that we think we have any authority over what is or is not allowed for others, but you can be damn sure we're going to point out every single bad idea you come up with, and if it's not one that's been posted a thousand times already, will point out why it's bad, for all that you'll not listen to it. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. "This reminds me - I must complain to my local butcher about him not catering to vegitarians." - admiral root responding to someone whining about too much PvP in Eve Online.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.02 12:04:56 - [40] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Most of the suggestions made are made by people who don't fully understand either the mechanics behind what they want, or don't understand the mindset of the average Eve Online player, and how badly most ideas can be utterly abused by the playerbase. It's not that we think we have any authority over what is or is not allowed for others, but you can be damn sure we're going to point out every single bad idea you come up with, and if it's not one that's been posted a thousand times already, will point out why it's bad, for all that you'll not listen to it. If a player, new or old, presents an idea that does not takes into consideration some mechanic you are aware of, just saying that it is a bad idea will not help him acknowledge it. But the fact is, the majority of people commenting on this forum simply do not present any valid arguments. I know some things seem pretty obvious to veteran players but if you're not capable of articulating why it is so then maybe it is because it is not as obvious as you imagine. And sometimes... just sometimes (because I know you're fully aware of everything EvE related), maybe this happens just because you just got used to something the way it is and never considered it on a different way. Right now I have people on a thread criticizing a suggestion to market/industry, who can't even tell what market/industry players use. There's also a lot of falacies when people realize they can't argue about why something is bad and realize it's just because THEY don't like it. One of my favorites so far is "devs must work on other things". It's funny how I can post it on ANY suggestion thread and it will sound like I'm making a reasonable comment. Consider this: if you have to look into a character profile, number of likes, time of creation, corporation, or anything of the sort before you post anything about something he wrote then you're probably just being an arrogant prick and is not really considering his idea more than any of the preconceptions you have about the game. P.S.:Btw, you don't have to bow to my awesomeness. The fact that you acknowledges it is enough for me. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 56	Posted - 2015.02.02 14:44:25 - [41] - Quote Van Beyus wrote: ...the majority of people commenting on this forum simply do not present any valid arguments. Van Beyus wrote: P.S.:Btw, you don't have to bow to my awesomeness. The fact that you acknowledge it is enough for me.
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.02 16:48:19 - [42] - Quote Kaldi Tsukaya wrote: Van Beyus wrote: ...the majority of people commenting on this forum simply do not present any valid arguments. Van Beyus wrote: P.S.:Btw, you don't have to bow to my awesomeness. The fact that you acknowledge it is enough for me. Check the one thread I'm discussing in that's still open. I don't know if the problem is people are too lazy to think about stuff before writing or if if they are A.I.s with pre-programmed responses. People say things like "programming this is hard", "this represents a security issue" without ever having writing a single line of code in their lives. And when I question them about it, they just stop posting. One guy said something like "this will look ugly" about a feature that doesn't even have a mockup for it. If this sort of stuff happened in one thread or another then I'd ignore it, but it seems like this is just the culture of F&I. It's very sad because a forum for ideas is supposed to be a creative environment. Players here, on the other hand, seems to love boasting about how they would never change a single feature in the game if that's not giving them an advantage. Instead of limiting the number of threads per character I'd instead suggest that, as a pre-requisite for posting on F&I you have to suggest ideas yourself on a regular basis. You're not judges of American Talents or any **** like that. When I post an idea on this forum I don't expect you to say yes or no for it, I expect an intelligent discussion about how it will affect the gameplay. P.S.: I'm serious about it, you don't have to bow down to me. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 2322	Posted - 2015.02.02 17:00:47 - [43] - Quote You should check other forums on other games. Aside from small, close-knit groups, the EVE forums seem to me to be one of the best places for mature and informed discussion anywhere on the internet. I often come to Out of Pod Experience just to talk to reasonable people, because I can't find them on the forums made for the topic I'm discussing. CSM X: Sabriz Adoudel, Mike Azariah, Xander Phoena, Sugar Kyle, Corbexx, Jenshae Chiroptera, Marlona Sky Highsec reform thread
Van Beyus Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.02 18:07:52 - [44] - Quote Reaver Glitterstim wrote: You should check other forums on other games. Aside from small, close-knit groups, the EVE forums seem to me to be one of the best places for mature and informed discussion anywhere on the internet. I often come to Out of Pod Experience just to talk to reasonable people, because I can't find them on the forums made for the topic I'm discussing. I've been at other games suggestion forums. People can be passionate about their points of view but they usually discuss things rather than take an irreductible conservative position. Out of Pod Experience might be different, idk, but after my experience here I wouldn't say F&I is the place for a mature and informed discussion. It's quite the opposite. I'm not online most of the time, but I won't change this signature when I do just to make your life easier.

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